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The anger will subside.
I think this is a misuse of the word populist. Trump's followers are more of a nationalist or fascist flavor.
hurtinbuckaroo
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If trump pushes the "election was rigged" argument, the backlash could even escalate to violence. I live in the only republican county in the state, and I'm getting concerned about just going to the polls to cast my vote. The aftermath could get ugly.
Harry Bosch
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Of course not. And populist anger is going to get worse. And I don't care. If you have economic problems, and you blame Mexicans and Muslims - you are wrong. Trump is manipulating you into thinking that there is an easy solution.
Don2 (Don1 Revised)
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The 2020 campaigns begin!
J842P
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Nativist, really. Maybe nativist, law-and-order candidate describes him best.
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Republicans set their sights on the 2018 election, either way. How it plays out will likely be determined by events we've yet to see.
arkirk
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Actually, so is Clinton a neoliberal. Clinton has no compunction about using military and police violence. I think Trump's following will be winnowed down to a very small number by the November election. The wealth of his party is aligning with Clinton and she has made it known she appreciates wealthy supporters. Trump, it is my hope, and it looks like it will be, that he is a flash in the pan....and we just hope that is not a nuclear flash.
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The GOP gets together with the Dems on the free education thing, at least voc-tech. I can't imagine anyone's going to lobby against it.
The only way to quell the anger is to put money in their pockets. Many of these people were raised to believe that hard work will get them ahead in life. What they found was they were trying to raise a family, stuck in 15-20 dollar an hour jobs and mom having to work at the local Walmart just to get by. This is an attack on their value system. They're pissed and taking it out on those who and that which they do not like. Stick some money in their pockets. Enough so they can fill their house with useless crap...
The American Dream.
The only way to quell the anger is to put money in their pockets. Many of these people were raised to believe that hard work will get them ahead in life. What they found was they were trying to raise a family, stuck in 15-20 dollar an hour jobs and mom having to work at the local Walmart just to get by. This is an attack on their value system. They're pissed and taking it out on those who and that which they do not like. Stick some money in their pockets. Enough so they can fill their house with useless crap...
The American Dream.
Hickdive
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It's a slippery slope - appeal to populism, win on that basis, enact nationalist/fascist policies.
Cheerful Charlie
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There is a rat scramble by various GOP factions to claim leadership of the smoking remains of the GOP. Where do they go from here?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikax0Y0NJsY
Intelligent design?
Intelligent design?
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If the media fixes the election and puts Clinton in power, there will be massive protests on the street, no violence, but it will be a bloodbath.
The trouble with all the anger, is that it isn't a lot of anger. Trump supporters think they speak for the country... yet they only amassed about 40% tops for Trump within the Republican Party itself. So less than a majority of a less than a majority. They will be angry (assuming Trump even makes it), but just how many are there really? They'd take to the streets by the dozen!
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Rednecks will change from spitting out "that BLACK President" to "that BITCH President"...
Besides that? Probably not much, at least in the US. But probably another country or two will be bombed into anarchy...
A little closer to the center. The religious right is told they can open all the meetings with a prayer and keep their mouth shut after that. Someone will remind the Preachers that after Trump KOed their little altar boys, they decided to support the serial adulterer with the soft core porn star wife. Gay marriage becomes a "personal choice" issue, with the individual states granting licenses as they see fit. Abortion becomes a settled issue with Roe v Wade unchallenged, because it's a losing battle and they have other things to worry about.
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On other sites, Trump supporters have been saying they're going to string up Hillary once Trump wins. That wasn't an isolated comment; the sentiment comes up often. Granted, it could be that when I see it, that I find it to be extra-memorable. And maybe these are the freaks who think they've found a voice in Trump and so now feel empowered to say things they wouldn't normally say, which means that once he's gone, they'll go back to just being less vocal assholes.
But violence is a real possibility, particularly if Trumps keeps up this bullshit about the election being rigged. The problem is to the extent with which Trump actively encourages the behavior. I briefly re-looked up Incite to Riot, but the cases are all over the place and federal interpretation varies (meaning that different circuits have treated it differently depending on circumstances).
Thus far, he has not been able to keep his mouth shut. But it's doubtful that not actively discouraging his followers from rioting is a crime. It appears though, that if he actively urges or encourages it, he could get himself into trouble. Anything short of that will likely be protected speech and it would only make him a martyr to arrest him and put him in jail.
But he could get himself in trouble in other ways as well could his followers.
1. Insurrection: an insurrection may properly be defined as the act of rising in open resistance against established authority or government,1 or as any open and active opposition of a number of persons to the execution of the laws of the United States of so formidable a character as to deny, for the time being, the authority of the government, even though not accompanied by bloodshed2 and not of sufficient magnitude to render success probable.3 It need not take the form of an attempt to set up a new government by name. 4 While an insurrection aimed at accomplishing the overthrow of the constituted government is no less an insurrection because its chances of success are forlorn,5 it is necessary that the rising must be so formidable as for the time being to defy the authority of the government.6
Insurrection may also be defined as a rebellion,7 or an armed rising or revolt.8 It may further be defined as a rising against civil or political authority,9 or the open and active opposition of a number of persons to the execution of law in a city or state.10
2. Sedition: "Sedition" may properly be defined to be a revolt against legitimate authority.13 It may also be defined as the advocacy or suggestion, by word, act, or writing, of public disorder or resistance to the government.14
So Trump needs to be careful, a thing he hasn't been disposed towards at any time in the past year and a half. But there's still the martyr problem. Trump would become a perverted version of Nelson Mandela to his most idiotic followers, and would inevitably lead to various acts of domestic terrorism by benighted dipshits all across the U.S.
But violence is a real possibility, particularly if Trumps keeps up this bullshit about the election being rigged. The problem is to the extent with which Trump actively encourages the behavior. I briefly re-looked up Incite to Riot, but the cases are all over the place and federal interpretation varies (meaning that different circuits have treated it differently depending on circumstances).
Thus far, he has not been able to keep his mouth shut. But it's doubtful that not actively discouraging his followers from rioting is a crime. It appears though, that if he actively urges or encourages it, he could get himself into trouble. Anything short of that will likely be protected speech and it would only make him a martyr to arrest him and put him in jail.
But he could get himself in trouble in other ways as well could his followers.
1. Insurrection: an insurrection may properly be defined as the act of rising in open resistance against established authority or government,1 or as any open and active opposition of a number of persons to the execution of the laws of the United States of so formidable a character as to deny, for the time being, the authority of the government, even though not accompanied by bloodshed2 and not of sufficient magnitude to render success probable.3 It need not take the form of an attempt to set up a new government by name. 4 While an insurrection aimed at accomplishing the overthrow of the constituted government is no less an insurrection because its chances of success are forlorn,5 it is necessary that the rising must be so formidable as for the time being to defy the authority of the government.6
Insurrection may also be defined as a rebellion,7 or an armed rising or revolt.8 It may further be defined as a rising against civil or political authority,9 or the open and active opposition of a number of persons to the execution of law in a city or state.10
2. Sedition: "Sedition" may properly be defined to be a revolt against legitimate authority.13 It may also be defined as the advocacy or suggestion, by word, act, or writing, of public disorder or resistance to the government.14
So Trump needs to be careful, a thing he hasn't been disposed towards at any time in the past year and a half. But there's still the martyr problem. Trump would become a perverted version of Nelson Mandela to his most idiotic followers, and would inevitably lead to various acts of domestic terrorism by benighted dipshits all across the U.S.
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A million internet trolls pound their keyboards simultaneously in righteous fury, causing a massive earthquake across the Mason-Dixon line. As a result, Florida breaks off from the mainland, and falls into the sea.
Texas secedes from the Union, goes bankrupt, and is purchased by Mexico. Millions of Texans suddenly find themselves on the other side of the border, and then start to become that which they despise, illegal aliens.
Meanwhile, Trump blames the whole thing on Melania, and divorces her, then selects his next wife via a reality show that gets massive ratings. He determines that this means he is more popular than ever, and he runs for President again in 2020, and wins the Republican nomination again. Such an event occurring in back to back presidential elections is so improbable that it causes a rupture in the fabric of the universe itself, distorting space and time. Worlds collide. Using their combined intellects, Hillary, Bernie, and Obama build a life raft/time machine, and escape into the past, just before the universe is destroyed. They arrive back on Earth just in time to avoid the Republican take over of the House in the 2010 election, and then install Obama as Emperor, ushering in an era of peace and prosperity across the globe that lasts for a century. Obama is kept alive through this entire epoch by utilizing advanced rejuvenation therapy discovered while travelling through time on the life raft. He jealously guards his secret, which involves harvesting the brains of live dolphins. The dolphins rise up and enslave humanity, and for once the blame for something rests solely on Obama's shoulders. Thanks, Obama!