Trump isn't even inaugurated yet ...

[Derec]

and he already accomplished what 11 US presidents, from Eisenhower to Obama, failed to do:

Fidel Castro is finally dead!

Maybe now Cuba can extradite the cop killer Joanne Chesimard aka Assaka Shakur.

 

[Arctish]

and he already accomplished what 11 US presidents, from Eisenhower to Obama, failed to do:

Fidel Castro is finally dead!

Obama is still the President, which means this happened on his watch.You can send your thank you note to:

The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington, D.C. 20500

 

[Ford]

If this is true, it is a failure for not just Trump, but Obama and every President since Ike.

Castro won. The greatest superpower the world has ever known brought all their power to bear on a tiny island nation for over 50 years, and instead of being forcibly removed from office, Fidel stepped down of his own accord and died in his own country.

 

[Derec]

If this is true, it is a failure for not just Trump, but Obama and every President since Ike.

Castro won. The greatest superpower the world has ever known brought all their power to bear on a tiny island nation for over 50 years, and instead of being forcibly removed from office, Fidel stepped down of his own accord and died in his own country.

If only Bay of Pigs had been successful, Cuban people could have been spared more than 50 years (and counting) of suffering and misery.

 

[Arctish]

If this is true, it is a failure for not just Trump, but Obama and every President since Ike.

Castro won. The greatest superpower the world has ever known brought all their power to bear on a tiny island nation for over 50 years, and instead of being forcibly removed from office, Fidel stepped down of his own accord and died in his own country.

If only Bay of Pigs had been successful, Cuban people could have been spared more than 50 years (and counting) of suffering and misery.

They didn't suffer nearly as much at Castro's hands as they did from the economic embargo the US imposed.

 

[barbos]

If only Bay of Pigs had been successful, Cuban people could have been spared more than 50 years (and counting) of suffering and misery.

They didn't suffer nearly as much at Castro's hands as they did from the economic embargo the US imposed.

And it's not as if they were not suffering before Castro.

 

[Ford]

If only Bay of Pigs had been successful, Cuban people could have been spared more than 50 years (and counting) of suffering and misery.

They didn't suffer nearly as much at Castro's hands as they did from the economic embargo the US imposed.

Forget it. Derec thinks the problem with Cuba is that the US just didn't invade hard enough.

 

[dismal]

If only Bay of Pigs had been successful, Cuban people could have been spared more than 50 years (and counting) of suffering and misery.

They didn't suffer nearly as much at Castro's hands as they did from the economic embargo the US imposed.

Sorry, on this forum trade is bad and the embargo allowed Cuba to keep its jobs from coming to the US and/or it kept them from being exploited by US imperiislists.

If Castro wanted it gone he sure didn't act like it so he must have known this.

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They didn't suffer nearly as much at Castro's hands as they did from the economic embargo the US imposed.

Forget it. Derec thinks the problem with Cuba is that the US just didn't invade hard enough.

Well, yeah if you compare their economy to South Korea, Germany or Vietnam that seems to be the case.

 

[Bronzeage]

If this is true, it is a failure for not just Trump, but Obama and every President since Ike.

Castro won. The greatest superpower the world has ever known brought all their power to bear on a tiny island nation for over 50 years, and instead of being forcibly removed from office, Fidel stepped down of his own accord and died in his own country.

If only Bay of Pigs had been successful, Cuban people could have been spared more than 50 years (and counting) of suffering and misery.

Yeah, they could have been the second Puerto Rico.

 

[Derec]

They didn't suffer nearly as much at Castro's hands as they did from the economic embargo the US imposed.

The embargo was imposed because the usurper government stole private property, including property of Americans.

 

[Derec]

And it's not as if they were not suffering before Castro.

Pre-Castro Cuba looked like a pretty cool place, especially Havana. Yes, they needed reforms but Castro and his comutards made it much, much worse. Story of communist revolutions really.

 

[Derec]

Forget it. Derec thinks the problem with Cuba is that the US just didn't invade hard enough.

There is a German proverb: "Lieber ein Ende mit Schrecken als Schrecken ohne Ende". Better a horrific end than horrors without ending. Cubans have been suffering for almost 60 years now. Would it not have been better to just get rid of Castro and his not so merry band of thugs and murderers right then and there?

 

[RavenSky]

and he already accomplished what 11 US presidents, from Eisenhower to Obama, failed to do:

Fidel Castro is finally dead!

You mean the prospect of a Trump presidency is so disgusting, not even Fidel Castro wanted to live to see it.

 

[bleubird]

They didn't suffer nearly as much at Castro's hands as they did from the economic embargo the US imposed.

The embargo was imposed because the usurper government stole private property, including property of Americans.

You mean mafia casinos?
http://cuban-exile.com/doc_176-200/doc0190.html

 

[Nice Squirrel]

And it's not as if they were not suffering before Castro.

Pre-Castro Cuba looked like a pretty cool place, especially Havana. Yes, they needed reforms but Castro and his comutards made it much, much worse. Story of communist revolutions really.

If you were an American gambler, or an oil company.

 

[Derec]

Pre-Castro Cuba looked like a pretty cool place, especially Havana. Yes, they needed reforms but Castro and his comutards made it much, much worse. Story of communist revolutions really.

If you were an American gambler, or an oil company.

Or just a Cuban who wanted to build a business or have free elections...

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The embargo was imposed because the usurper government stole private property, including property of Americans.

You mean mafia casinos?
http://cuban-exile.com/doc_176-200/doc0190.html

Mostly the "expropriation" of oil refineries.

 

[whichphilosophy]

They didn't suffer nearly as much at Castro's hands as they did from the economic embargo the US imposed.

The embargo was imposed because the usurper government stole private property, including property of Americans.

Though the Embargo did not stop others from trading with Cuba, since 1992 the UN passed resolutions condemning the effect of the Embargo as a violation of International Law. In 2014 188 condemned the embargo out of 193 member nations The US and Israel voted against this with some other countries abstaining.

 

[barbos]

Forget it. Derec thinks the problem with Cuba is that the US just didn't invade hard enough.

There is a German proverb: "Lieber ein Ende mit Schrecken als Schrecken ohne Ende". Better a horrific end than horrors without ending. Cubans have been suffering for almost 60 years now. Would it not have been better to just get rid of Castro and his not so merry band of thugs and murderers right then and there?

I understand that Americans were suffering too. Because of embargo, they had to eat corn syrup instead of sugar and according to medical research, corn syrup is bad for you (obesity, diabetes)

 

[Derec]

Though the Embargo did not stop others from trading with Cuba, since 1992 the UN passed resolutions condemning the effect of the Embargo as a violation of International Law. In 2014 188 condemned the embargo out of 193 member nations The US and Israel voted against this with some other countries abstaining.

What was UN's opinion on Castro's thugs usurping power or on them stealing property?

 

[whichphilosophy]

Pre-Castro Cuba looked like a pretty cool place, especially Havana. Yes, they needed reforms but Castro and his comutards made it much, much worse. Story of communist revolutions really.

If you were an American gambler, or an oil company.

Or both.