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blastula said:
whichphilosophy said:
People in the UK are beginning to dislike Trump a little less nowadays. In the UK we accept election results and these protests sometimes over nothing are less interesting.
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Not only are you ignorant about the US, you don't even know what's going on in your own alleged country.

Women's March: 100,000 protest in London against Donald Trump | The Independent

Women's March London: Protestors Against May, Not Just Trump | Time.com

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An alternate view would be there are also a lot of people who are ignorant of the USA.
 
Tom Sawyer said:
blastula said:
Not only are you ignorant about the US, you don't even know what's going on in your own alleged country.
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To be fair to whichphilosophy, Kremlin-approved news agencies don't cover those sorts of things, so it's not like he had a way of knowing about them. You should try and be a bit more considerate of the limitations that certain posters have to operate under.

Also, there were a lot of people there, so it's probably actually a photo of a crowd cheering Trump's inauguration.
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Perhaps he may be more popular during his second term? :)
 
whichphilosophy said:
Tom Sawyer said:
To be fair to whichphilosophy, Kremlin-approved news agencies don't cover those sorts of things, so it's not like he had a way of knowing about them. You should try and be a bit more considerate of the limitations that certain posters have to operate under.

Also, there were a lot of people there, so it's probably actually a photo of a crowd cheering Trump's inauguration.
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Perhaps he may be more popular during his second term? :)
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It's possible. Unlikely, but possible.
 
blastula said:
whichphilosophy said:
An alternate view would be there are also a lot of people who are ignorant of the USA.
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That's not an alternate, it's a dodge.
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Did you see a list of those involved?? None of the main parties are involved of course apart. A couple of notable organisations such as the The Green Party, Amnesty International. Most are not even directly involved in UK or USA politics. Action for refugees in Lewisham (a small borough in London) This is a Charityy for local refugees.
Then there is Morning Gloryville: It's interesting but it's a dance group advocating no drugs and also provides Yoga.
Some may have an interest but in reality very few mainstream informed public seem to be involved.

I mean what has the The English Collective of Prostitutes got to do with anything. It's campaigning in the UK for legalising prostitution which doesn't have anything to do with the price of peas. Maybe the CND has some relevance. Most have particular agendas.

This is from the website.

Amnesty International, Greenpeace, ActionAid UK, Oxfam GB, Women's Equality Party, The Green Party, Pride London, Democrats Abroad UK, Syria Solidarity Campaign, Unite the Union, Black Pride, Solidarity with Refugees, WOW, NUS, British Scientists for the EU, She Speaks We Hear, Women 4 Refugee Women, 50:50 Parliament, Women in Leadership, The Equality Trust, Verve UK, Daughters of Eve, Womankind Worldwide, The English Collective of Prostitutes, ActionForRefugeesInLewisham, Latin American Women's Aid, International Planned Parenthood Federation, Soroptimist International, Women in Prison, Stop The War Coalition, Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament, Left Unity, UK SAYS NO MORE, Inquest, Black Women's Rape Action Project, Women Against Rape, WinVisible, QueerStrike, Women of Colour Global Women's Strike, Women's Aid, Morning Gloryville, Payday Men's Network, International Jewish Anti-Zionist Network UK, London-Irish Abortion Rights Campaign, Network of Eritrean Women, Women in Leadership Publication, Fourth Wave: London Feminist Activists, Gibraltar Women's Association END OF QUOTE
 
Another red herring and dodge.
 
blastula said:
Another red herring and dodge.
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Be specific if you have an argument. I specified that these are mainly splinter groups from the womensmarch website own and checked some of these out. The Green Party is quite large

Thatcher attracted much larger marches against her yet she still got re-elected, apart from her downfall arising out of the poll tax backlash which the Labour Party involved itself
 
I am being accurate, your posts have been non-responsive. You said, "In the UK we accept election results and these protests sometimes over nothing are less interesting." Notwithstanding your ignorant characterization of the marches, my post showed that people in the UK do protest as well, and in fact over the exact same issues as those in the US were marching about, showing you are wrong about the UK. Nothing you have replied since has refuted that plain fact.
 
Elixir said:
whichphilosophy said:
Thatcher attracted much larger marches against her...
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Really? Or is that another alt-fact?
I'd sure like to see some evidence...
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Alternate facter, alternate facter, pants on fire.

Of the large London protest marches since WWII, three took place during Thatcher's premiership; none were specifically opposed to the PM herself. Two were organised by the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament, and the third was to protest the Community Charge, popularly known as the Poll Tax.

Estimates of the London attendance of the Women's March place it as rather larger than the 1990 Stop the Poll Tax march, which was the only one of the three during the Thatcher era that had a specifically anti-Thatcher slant; the two CND marches were early in her tenure as PM (1981 and 1983) and were focussed on policy, rather than on the person implementing it.

Source.
 
blastula said:
I am being accurate, your posts have been non-responsive. You said, "In the UK we accept election results and these protests sometimes over nothing are less interesting." Notwithstanding your ignorant characterization of the marches, my post showed that people in the UK do protest as well, and in fact over the exact same issues as those in the US were marching about, showing you are wrong about the UK. Nothing you have replied since has refuted that plain fact.
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There are splinter groups protesting like the English Prostitutes collective or a Lewisham Refugee Charity and one or two bigger ones like The Green Party
However few have causes that relate to the political field and it seems more like padding where these groups can get publicity to push their own causes. And why not.
You are free to refute this
 
bilby said:
Elixir said:
Really? Or is that another alt-fact?
I'd sure like to see some evidence...
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Alternate facter, alternate facter, pants on fire.

Of the large London protest marches since WWII, three took place during Thatcher's premiership; none were specifically opposed to the PM herself. Two were organised by the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament, and the third was to protest the Community Charge, popularly known as the Poll Tax.

Estimates of the London attendance of the Women's March place it as rather larger than the 1990 Stop the Poll Tax march, which was the only one of the three during the Thatcher era that had a specifically anti-Thatcher slant; the two CND marches were early in her tenure as PM (1981 and 1983) and were focussed on policy, rather than on the person implementing it.

Source.
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This was clearly to get rid of her. 18 million refused to pay this so she was eventually replaced by her own party. The groups involved in this March mainly have nothing to do with US politics and were formed for specific Agendas.
 
whichphilosophy said:
blastula said:
I am being accurate, your posts have been non-responsive. You said, "In the UK we accept election results and these protests sometimes over nothing are less interesting." Notwithstanding your ignorant characterization of the marches, my post showed that people in the UK do protest as well, and in fact over the exact same issues as those in the US were marching about, showing you are wrong about the UK. Nothing you have replied since has refuted that plain fact.
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There are splinter groups protesting like the English Prostitutes collective or a Lewisham Refugee Charity and one or two bigger ones like The Green Party
However few have causes that relate to the political field and it seems more like padding where these groups can get publicity to push their own causes. And why not.
You are free to refute this
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I don't need to refute any of that, because it's still all irrelevant to my post.
 
blastula said:
whichphilosophy said:
There are splinter groups protesting like the English Prostitutes collective or a Lewisham Refugee Charity and one or two bigger ones like The Green Party
However few have causes that relate to the political field and it seems more like padding where these groups can get publicity to push their own causes. And why not.
You are free to refute this
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I don't need to refute any of that, because it's still all irrelevant to my post.
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I'm pointing out that the majority of groups supporting this have unrelated causes. I was surprised that OXFAM has a political stance. This is a UK charity whose agenda is to fight poverty.
 
And? It does not refute that the UK does these kinds of protests.
 
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