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Trump says something that isn't insane!!!

Artemus said:
Playball40 said:
Thank you! I was just coming to say exactly this. The ingredients used in prescription BC pills vary and need to be prescribed based on the individual woman.
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Actually, the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (and many other health care organizations), the people who are qualified to decide, have stated on record numerous times that there is no legitimate reason for birth control bills to require a prescription. The only reason it is prescription is politics. Look at the (male Christian) republicans' attempts to prevent Plan B from going over the counter. It is the same with traditional birth control pills. Like a broken clock, Trump happened to be correct at this one instant.

Freedom from government control only applies to white Christian males. It is mandatory for anyone else.
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While I favor making it pharmacist-prescribable I think straight OTC is going too far. It has the same sort of problem that Viagra has--too much demand from unsuitable patients.
 
Jolly_Penguin said:
Is abortion paid for under the ACA mandates?
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There is no federal funding for abortions. Depends on the state on whether they allow ACA private plans or state funding to cover abortion. Generally blue states allow coverage, red don't.
 
Loren Pechtel said:
Artemus said:
Actually, the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (and many other health care organizations), the people who are qualified to decide, have stated on record numerous times that there is no legitimate reason for birth control bills to require a prescription. The only reason it is prescription is politics. Look at the (male Christian) republicans' attempts to prevent Plan B from going over the counter. It is the same with traditional birth control pills. Like a broken clock, Trump happened to be correct at this one instant.

Freedom from government control only applies to white Christian males. It is mandatory for anyone else.
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While I favor making it pharmacist-prescribable I think straight OTC is going too far. It has the same sort of problem that Viagra has--too much demand from unsuitable patients.
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Unsuitable patients? In the case of birth control (the pill), that'd be males.
 
Tom Sawyer said:
Ya, because the GOP base is going to suddenly start caring about the content of what he's saying. Also, he'll have three completely different and contradictory positions on the subject by tomorrow, so it's not like they'll have time to get worked up.
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LOL...how true.
 
Artemus said:
I still have trouble believing that Trump would be politically aware enough of this (or anything, for that matter) to affect his stated stand on the issue, though. I'd be just inclined to believe that he heard Ivanka say it once so he just repeated it because, well, he wants to date her. (And I'm not entirely kidding, either.)
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I would agree with you on that (including the part you aren't entirely kidding about :p )

Ivanka actually seems to be more intelligent than her father (or her brothers or her husband) and seems to have put some thought into policy. I suspect her views are currently being shaped by the conservatives surrounding her father, but I think perhaps she does care about people other than herself and she is trying to have a good (if misguided) influence.
 
Nobody has said that all Trump does is speak insanity.

He both panders with lies and speaks insanity.

I think what we have in birth control is, you know, when you have to get a prescription, that’s a pretty tough something to climb,” he said. “And I would say it should not be a prescription, it should not be done by prescription.”

He went on to say that “you have women that just aren’t able to go get a prescription. So and more and more people are coming out and saying that, but I am not in favor of prescription for birth control.
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How about coming out for universal health insurance if you are so worried about these tough somethings to climb?
 
Jimmy Higgins said:
Loren Pechtel said:
While I favor making it pharmacist-prescribable I think straight OTC is going too far. It has the same sort of problem that Viagra has--too much demand from unsuitable patients.
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Unsuitable patients? In the case of birth control (the pill), that'd be males.
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I object to this discrimination.
 
Jimmy Higgins said:
Loren Pechtel said:
While I favor making it pharmacist-prescribable I think straight OTC is going too far. It has the same sort of problem that Viagra has--too much demand from unsuitable patients.
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Unsuitable patients? In the case of birth control (the pill), that'd be males.
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Try a 45 year old chainsmoking woman.
 
I bet there are more than a few Hinckley wannabes amongst Trump supporters.
 
Jimmy Higgins said:
bleubird said:
Than he goes right back to insane.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-guns-idUSKCN11N014
How does the Secret Service view this?
Seems boarder line incitement.
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This isn't the same type of remark he made before. This was 'if guns are so bad, why the armed guard?'

Of course the other side is, if terribly easy access to guns isn't that bad, why does Clinton need the armed guard?

This time he isn't suggesting someone kill her.
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He is suggesting that someone will kill her:

and mused about the consequences of such a move by saying "Let's see what happens to her."
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