Trump threatens to deport pro Palestinian protesters!

[Jarhyn]

As a former F1 visa holder, my understanding is that any somewhat serious crime like theft will deport you, as a result of university expulsion, not because US laws have such punishment. Police, probably, would not even report you to the university for some minor crap.
As for the protest vandalism, don't know, considering money they pay for "education", I think it's still a good deal for university, even with occasional vandalism

We aren't really talking about visa holders, we are talking about citizens.

Trump was talking about citizens Barbos.

He was talking about making people stateless in response for political speech.

 

[Elixir]

He was talking about making people stateless in response for political speech.

Meh. A minor distinction. A President should be able to lock up, deport, execute or disappear anyone they want to.
Right, babs? It’s the TrumPutin way!

 

[TSwizzle]

As a former F1 visa holder, my understanding is that any somewhat serious crime like theft will deport you,

Permanent resident/ green card holders of the US can be deported if the crime is serious enough. IIRC, a DUI could be enough to get you deported. And I seem to remember that a naturalized resident had their citizenship revoked for a major tax fraud some years ago.

Visas always come with restrictions no matter what country issues them. A visa holder does not have the same rights as a US citizen.

 

[barbos]

IIRC, a DUI could be enough to get you deported.

I knew a guy who was not.

And I seem to remember that a naturalized resident had their citizenship revoked for a major tax fraud some years ago.

I suspect that it has to be somehow linked to emigration, lied on application or something.

 

[barbos]

Trump was talking about citizens Barbos.

US born citizens?

 

[Loren Pechtel]

As a former F1 visa holder, my understanding is that any somewhat serious crime like theft will deport you, as a result of university expulsion, not because US laws have such punishment. Police, probably, would not even report you to the university for some minor crap.
As for the protest vandalism, don't know, considering money they pay for "education", I think it's still a good deal for university, even with occasional vandalism

My understanding is that any crime that could get a year sentence is enough to yeet you out. It's not something I've paid much attention to, by the time the internet was around she was a citizen and thus unyeetable.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

As a former F1 visa holder, my understanding is that any somewhat serious crime like theft will deport you,

Permanent resident/ green card holders of the US can be deported if the crime is serious enough. IIRC, a DUI could be enough to get you deported. And I seem to remember that a naturalized resident had their citizenship revoked for a major tax fraud some years ago.

Visas always come with restrictions no matter what country issues them. A visa holder does not have the same rights as a US citizen.

AFIAK the only way to be stripped of citizenship is to show that there was something fraudulent about your application.

Furthermore, not all countries allow dual citizenship. If someone takes up citizenship with a new country (as my wife did after marrying me) sometimes you have to give up the old (as she did.) To strip citizenship would be to make her stateless, something that's not supposed to be permitted. (Works the other way around, also--to renounce US citizenship you are required to show citizenship in some other country.)

 

[lpetrich]

I am always amazed how everyone of your elections is the most important in your lives. Why then are your elections so poorly supported?

We've never felt that way until Trump, so I'm not sure where you got that idea. The problem is that a lot of voters only consider the presidential elections to be very important and they sit out the midterm elections. I've tried to reason with some of them, but they just don't understand the importance of Congressional elections. It is insane that we spend so much time and money on our elections, but I guess that's a cultural issue that would be difficult to change.

Seems like the third partiers that I run into online. They seem to think that the Presidential election is the only election worth considering and they seem ignorant of Duverger's law.

Consider the US Green Party. It seems like a Presidency-only party with other offices an afterthought. Some defenders of that party say that it is to try to get Federal matching funds, but if that's what they're doing, then that strategy is a total failure. They have never succeeded in all the decades that they have tried that strategy.

Green Party supporters sometime grumble that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez stole the idea of a Green New Deal from them, but AOC got elected and their candidate didn't. AOC got elected by running as a Democrat, running inside the duopoly, and running for Congress instead of for the Presidency.

Some third partiers talk about smashing the Democratic-Republican duopoly, but even if one of their candidates got elected President, it would do nothing about most of the duopoly. It would still be in place in Congress, in the states, and in big cities.

 

[southernhybrid]

I am always amazed how everyone of your elections is the most important in your lives. Why then are your elections so poorly supported?

We've never felt that way until Trump, so I'm not sure where you got that idea. The problem is that a lot of voters only consider the presidential elections to be very important and they sit out the midterm elections. I've tried to reason with some of them, but they just don't understand the importance of Congressional elections. It is insane that we spend so much time and money on our elections, but I guess that's a cultural issue that would be difficult to change.

Seems like the third partiers that I run into online. They seem to think that the Presidential election is the only election worth considering and they seem ignorant of Duverger's law.

Consider the US Green Party. It seems like a Presidency-only party with other offices an afterthought. Some defenders of that party say that it is to try to get Federal matching funds, but if that's what they're doing, then that strategy is a total failure. They have never succeeded in all the decades that they have tried that strategy.

Green Party supporters sometime grumble that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez stole the idea of a Green New Deal from them, but AOC got elected and their candidate didn't. AOC got elected by running as a Democrat, running inside the duopoly, and running for Congress instead of for the Presidency.

Some third partiers talk about smashing the Democratic-Republican duopoly, but even if one of their candidates got elected President, it would do nothing about most of the duopoly. It would still be in place in Congress, in the states, and in big cities.

I haven't met any lately, but the ones, I had mentioned were older adults who were Democrats.