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Half-Life said:
Also, on a side note, doesn't anyone wonder why we are told to "practice social distancing and wear masks and gloves" but during the White House briefs, no reporters are wearing masks or gloves, Trump isn't wearing a mask and gloves, Fauci isn't wearing a mask and gloves and they all sit and stand right next to each other?

Seems awfully suspicious....this is why there's a lot of talk in conservative circles that this is the elites knowing there is no problem but telling us there is a problem.
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They are testing everyone who comes near Trump, unfortunately.
 
lpetrich said:
Has an interview with that company's CEO. The nation has some social distancing: everybody must be at least 2 meters apart and gatherings of more than 50 people are forbidden. But aside from that, the nation isn't very locked down. That was made possible by testing on a massive scale: something like 10% of Icelanders have now been tested for the virus.
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Taiwan has also had a lot of success with a testing/quarantine approach:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/taiwanese-authorities-stay-vigilant-virus-crisis-eases-n1188781

Note that you have to have a low case count for such approaches to be viable.
 
hurtinbuckaroo said:
F-head is now going to order all meat plants to stay open even though they've become COVID hot spots, using the Defense Production Act, which he seems unable to effectively use to increase the supply of things like PPEs.

I have no words.
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He's not trying to increase the supply of PPE. He's trying to make money for his cronies controlling the market with federal help hijacking any supplies that don't go through their hands.

There should be a lot of life-without-parole sentences handed out once the dust settles. I doubt it will happen, though.
 
Half-Life said:
Loren Pechtel said:

What you are missing is that they have ongoing costs even though they aren't in operation.

Also, it's a pretty darn small minority that is in favor of reopening early. They're just well astroturfed.
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Yes, and anyone in favor of them staying closed and going bankrupt and out of business is a heartless fool.
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What you don't understand is that if they reopen business will be way down, they won't make a profit anyway.

I still think the real answer here is a rent & interest freeze.
 
Loren Pechtel said:
What you don't understand is that if they reopen business will be way down, they won't make a profit anyway.
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DNFTT!

I still think the real answer here is a rent & interest freeze.
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That seemed obvious quite a while ago, sadly Congress isn't battling the problems caused by the Freeze and more jostling. One thing is for certain, I think the fact that businesses need to ponder opening up before it is safe in order to not dissolve and employees have to grapple with going back to work, risking the lives many people, it is quite the indicator that the United States is fucked in the head when it comes to economics.
 
Half-Life said:
Also, on a side note, doesn't anyone wonder why we are told to "practice social distancing and wear masks and gloves" but during the White House briefs, no reporters are wearing masks or gloves, Trump isn't wearing a mask and gloves, Fauci isn't wearing a mask and gloves and they all sit and stand right next to each other?

Seems awfully suspicious....this is why there's a lot of talk in conservative circles that this is the elites knowing there is no problem but telling us there is a problem.
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Because the GOP is still trying to pretend it's a nothing.

And there's little reason to wear gloves with this. What we need are masks & distance.
 
Half-Life said:
Jimmy Higgins said:
hurtinbuckaroo said:
F-head is now going to order all meat plants to stay open even though they've become COVID hot spots, using the Defense Production Act, which he seems unable to effectively use to increase the supply of things like PPEs.

I have no words.
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They already turned off sports. They turn off meat, and people will be pissed! So, how are these plants going to stay open if everyone is sick, or do we quarantine people at the plant so they only work at the plant... oh fuck... should I delete that before the GOP runs with it?

Also,

COULD EVERYONE STOP RESPONDING TO HALF LIFE?!?!?



Thanks in advance.
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They hire people who are NOT sick and out of a job right now? Tons of waiters and waitresses are out of work right now. They should be flocking to apply.

Not exactly a brain buster thought there....
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Think they're going to do a decent job coming into it with no training???
 
Loren Pechtel said:
Half-Life said:
They hire people who are NOT sick and out of a job right now? Tons of waiters and waitresses are out of work right now. They should be flocking to apply.

Not exactly a brain buster thought there....
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Think they're going to do a decent job coming into it with no training???
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I would rather eat a poorly cut piece of steak than no steak at all.

Gonna eat it anyway, who cares what it looks like? Especially in dire times.
 
Loren Pechtel said:
Because the GOP is still trying to pretend it's a nothing.

And there's little reason to wear gloves with this. What we need are masks & distance.
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Employees at stores have to wear masks and gloves. The talking point now is that if you touch a surface and then touch your face, you could get the virus. Or is that just drama for fluff?
 
That's a fact not a talking point. Talking points are what you spew.
 
crazyfingers, that link requires a subscription. Is it paywalled?

Rhode Island Pushes Aggressive Testing, a Move That Could Ease Reopening - The New York Times
“Rhode Island is shining a light into the dark in a way that very few other states are doing,” said Mark Lurie, a professor of epidemiology at Brown University in Providence. Rhode Island has been conducting an average of 283 tests per 100,000 residents a day, compared with 79 tests per 100,000 people in the United States over all.

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Of late, state and local officials have turned their focus on testing to Pawtucket and Central Falls — dense, working-class cities nestled along the Seekonk River. These cities have multigenerational immigrant families, from Central America, Cape Verde and a dozen African nations, and many live tightly packed.

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Rhode Island is one of the few states to attempt such widespread testing and tracing.

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Ms. Raimondo and other officials have taken pains to make clear that the first months back will not resemble anything like pre-virus life. Retail stores could open for pickup of preordered items; restaurants with outdoor seating might soon be allowed to experiment. Each decision will entail a speculative, precarious calculus as the state tries to avoid new outbreaks. “We’re about to enter a whole new era of work,” she said.

To some extent, the many unionized city employees who have worked through the shutdown, in offices and on bridges and roads, have pioneered this new way of work life: They wear masks and gloves and have their temperature taken every day. Working hours are staggered, and meals are solitary affairs.
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That's the sort of reopening that ought to be done. LOTS of testing, and gradual reopening.
 
April 28: Trump uses the Defense Production Act to keep meat packing plants open.
May 5: Tyson, JBS, and Smithfield report an alarming rate of worker absenteeism. Trump uses DOJ to track missing workers.
May 8: Meat shortages reported in 24 states.
May 10: DOJ reports that most of missing workers are 'simply untraceable.' Trump says he is unconcerned, and he will announce a backup plan in a Presidential Address at 8 p.m.
May 10, 8p.m.: Trump announces a plan to combine 'ham, beef and chicken from our heartland' with soy protein from 'our beleaguered soybean farmers.' This will save the livestock farmers and bring soybean sales back to their levels before the Chinese cutbacks. The new Soy Blend line will be in supermarkets by the end of the month and will be priced at 40% the average price/pound of U.S. ground chuck. 'You won't believe how delicious it will be!'
May 30: Soy Blend processed foods in distinctive lime green packaging appear in stores with government guaranteed discount pricing.
June 10: Soy Blend gains mass acceptance, and sales surge. Trump supporters praise the President's ingenuity and predict a decisive uptick in his popularity.
June 20: Fraser Heston appears on Rachel Maddow's show with a stark and frenzied alarm: "Soy Blend Green is...people. SOY BLEND GREEN IS PEOPLLLLLLLLLLE!!!!"
 
Half-Life said:
Loren Pechtel said:
Because the GOP is still trying to pretend it's a nothing.

And there's little reason to wear gloves with this. What we need are masks & distance.
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Employees at stores have to wear masks and gloves. The talking point now is that if you touch a surface and then touch your face, you could get the virus. Or is that just drama for fluff?
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Gloves don't help unless the gloves are replaced as often as hands would be washed. I get the idea that stores make people wear gloves to give a false sense of security to the customers and employees. If you're a customer, don't rely on the employees to make the area safe for you, you have to do that for yourself, be aware of what you touch and your surroundings. Employees should make sure not to touch their face while wearing gloves after having contact with anyone until they change those gloves.

Those that aren't wearing gloves need to wash your hands before they touch their faces. Soap and water works better than hand sanitizer. Water alone will do if there's no soap, it's the action of the running water that does most of the work.

Employees who will be within inches of customers all day long definitely should wear masks and if there is not a suitable barrier they need wear goggles or a shield. Even when customers wear masks they can still spread the virus. Masks limit how much it can spread but don't prevent it altogether. Virus can be spread not just by coughing or sneezing but simply by talking. None of these precautions are 100 percent effective, they just cut down the risk.

Keep in mind that you're most likely to get infected by being nearby an infectious person from their exhalations. That's the bigger risk compared to infection from surfaces.
 
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Jimmy Higgins said:
Also,

COULD EVERYONE STOP RESPONDING TO HALF LIFE?!?!?



Thanks in advance.
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I certainly agree.


There has long been those I rarely respond to, seeing it as mostly pointless. Maybe a comment on them rarely. But Halfy, and a couple others.... they are either

1. A troll just here to cause trouble
2. A True Believer, in which case they are so divorced from reality that actual communication is impossible.
3. Mentally ill, in which engaging them is probably not helping them or anyone else
4. Other, I’m not qualified to diagnose their problem

The back and forth with them is making some threads practically unreadable

 
I cannot imagine a picture that more succinctly sums up the TCFA's (Trump Crime Family Administration's) attitude toward pandemic management.

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T.G.G. Moogly said:
Elixir said:
I cannot imagine a picture that more succinctly sums up the TCFA's (Trump Crime Family Administration's) attitude toward pandemic management.

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Apparently god is protecting his hero.
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He says he gets tested regularly along with everyone he comes in contact with (so putting on a display of elitist exemption from rules is a good idea).

I think a reporter should ask him when that started. I bet it was long before Trump changed his "I have not been tested" story on March 14th.
 
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