Ya I read that. When CDC recommended people over 60 avoid large gatherings, church, etc, I interpreted that as flying commercial too. But apparently tRump intervened and had fly commercially explicitly deleted.
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Ya I read that. When CDC recommended people over 60 avoid large gatherings, church, etc, I interpreted that as flying commercial too. But apparently tRump intervened and had fly commercially explicitly deleted.
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Anyone remember Star Trek IV? Spock has to jimmy up a number for calculating time travel with a trunk full of whales and seawater? Spock explained that he'd have to guess and Kirk was more amazed that he admitted than that their lives were in the hands of a Vulcan using a 'hunch.' And McCoy explained:
Well, Mr. President, between you and a fictional character who won't even be pretend-born for two hundred and ten years, i'd much rather have facts. In fact, even with facts, I don't trust your facts. I don't trust the facts from people standing next to you, rolling their eyes at your spin of their facts. So blow your hunch out of your ass.
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Coronavirus: Italy lockdown plan leaked, thousands tried to flee - Business Insider
Trump administration clashes with airline officials over coronavirus - CNNPolitics
She appeared on CNN saying that the Trump Admin wasn't doing a good job, and that she'd like hand sanitizers and the like for airplanes. She also wants paid sick leave and job protection so that nobody should have to choose from infecting others and risking their jobs.
Rather drastic.
Trump administration clashes with airline officials over coronavirus - CNNPolitics
Has some video of flight-attendant union leader Sara Nelson. I first encountered her a year ago when she was a guest at AOC's Green New Deal national town hall. She said that a part of climate change is likely increased air turbulence, something that would make it dangerous to fly and difficult for flight attendants to do their jobs.
She appeared on CNN saying that the Trump Admin wasn't doing a good job, and that she'd like hand sanitizers and the like for airplanes. She also wants paid sick leave and job protection so that nobody should have to choose from infecting others and risking their jobs.
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Cruise ship with coronavirus cluster to dock in California - YouTube - the Grand Princess, in Oakland Harbor
Anyone needing medical attention will be taken to local hospitals, US citizens will be quarantined in military bases in CA, TX, and GA, and citizens of other countries will be sent home in special charter flights. The ship's crew will be quarantined on the ship itself.
WATCH LIVE: Grand Princess cruise ship to dock in Oakland amid coronavirus concerns - YouTube - I skipped back in it and watched as the ship traveled to the Port of Oakland. It went under the Golden Gate Bridge, by downtown San Francisco, and under the western part of the Bay Bridge, docking in that cargo-ship harbor.
White House advisers to give President Trump policy options for coronavirus response, including paid sick leave - The Washington Post
Anyone needing medical attention will be taken to local hospitals, US citizens will be quarantined in military bases in CA, TX, and GA, and citizens of other countries will be sent home in special charter flights. The ship's crew will be quarantined on the ship itself.
WATCH LIVE: Grand Princess cruise ship to dock in Oakland amid coronavirus concerns - YouTube - I skipped back in it and watched as the ship traveled to the Port of Oakland. It went under the Golden Gate Bridge, by downtown San Francisco, and under the western part of the Bay Bridge, docking in that cargo-ship harbor.
White House advisers to give President Trump policy options for coronavirus response, including paid sick leave - The Washington Post
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Two weeks makes such a difference.
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Great googly moogly, do ANY of his tweets age well?
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It must be awful for the poor dears. I just can’t imagine. The horror of having to stay in a cruise ship cabin with substandard food and no balcony! I’ll bet they’re not even presented with menu options. They likely have to eat what is given to them. Surely they’re suffering from PTSD by now.
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Personally, if the exposure he got at CPAC kills him, I'm gonna laugh my ass off.
So... If it isn't about defeating Trump anymore, does that change people's calculus about which old democrat to vote for? If it isn't about electability (given a literal DOA ballot on the republican side), then what happens about all that electability and "blue no matter who" junk?
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Unless you have an expensive room, aren’t many cabins smaller than prison cells? It certainly isn’t ideal and there must be concern regarding anxiety of being on a ship with the virus. And these ships aren’t manned for room service for 1,000 passengers. While hardly being Syrian refugees in overflowing camps in Jordan, I think it is a bit further than First World Problems as well.
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It's still in Twitter: Donald J. Trump on Twitter: "The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA. We are in contact with everyone and all relevant countries. CDC & World Health have been working hard and very smart. Stock Market starting to look very good to me!" / Twitter
pResident tRump is the Baghdad Bob of coronavirus.
pResident tRump is the Baghdad Bob of coronavirus.
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As a veteran cruiser, I can tell you what my feelings would be. The size of the cabins is usually very small, but they are much more comfortable than prison cells, which can be overcrowded and far less comfortable. What would bother me are a number of needs--depletion of clean laundry, fresh linens and towels, depleting supplies of necessary sundries and medicines (especially prescription medicines), special dietary needs (e.g. diabetic passengers), news about what is happening in the world and their immediate future, etc. I have never taken a Princess ship and don't know what their TV is like, but usually it is very limited in terms of news coverage and entertainment, since people don't normally go on a cruise to watch TV. It is possible that Fox News is the only American TV news channel available on some cruise lines. And then there are homes to get back to, bills to pay, missed work, and so on. While being quarantined on a cruise ship is far less discomforting than being in prison, it is understandable that people would find it extremely stressful.
Now, add to that the fact that staff on the ship have to service the needs of quarantined passengers, and the crew is more easily infected than passengers, since they all live in much closer quarters with each other. Every day, your cabin has to be supplied with food and other services. Garbage, dirty laundry/towels/bedding, and other needs must be supplied by people not well trained to deal with contagious illnesses. If they visit a cabin where someone suffers from the virus, they can carry it to other passengers confined to cabins--like bees pollinating flowers. I would not like to be quarantined on a cruise ship because some politicians fear the political consequences of letting me off the ship and into a proper quarantine facility, where I might stand a chance of avoiding infection or getting proper care, if I do become infected. Nobody but a politician would think that things will work out better if people are quarantined on a cruise ship. All that does is create a larger population of infected passengers when they are inevitably let off the ship.
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Trump says doctors keep asking how he knows so much about the coronavirus
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Dan Diamond on Twitter: "At CDC, Trump is flanked by AZAR and REDFIELD — two officials facing most scrutiny over coronavirus response.
TRUMP: Doctor, do you want to make a little statement?
REDFIELD: First I want to thank you, for your decisive leadership…that's the most important thing I want to say. https://t.co/DH6oWiqAfN" / Twitter
Dan Diamond on Twitter: "Answering question about coronavirus response, Trump detours into discussing Fox News town hall ratings. https://t.co/Ly6Q3Jcj6x" / Twitter
Dan Diamond on Twitter: "AZAR tries to explain that more tests are coming, but Trump waves him off to jump in.
TRUMP: “Anybody that needs a test gets a test…. the tests are all perfect like the letter was perfect. The transcription was perfect. Right? This was not as perfect as that but pretty good.” https://t.co/A3hgYOJLUt" / Twitter
Dan Diamond on Twitter: "Trump muses that he could’ve become a research scientist instead of president.
TRUMP: I like this stuff. I really get it… every one of these doctors said, ‘how do you know so much about this?’ Maybe I have a natural ability. https://t.co/9ppWsjwN2v" / Twitter
Dan Diamond on Twitter: "Telling moment earlier, when asked about coronavirus test availability.
AZAR: You won’t believe me, why don’t you talk to Dr Redfield.
REDFIELD: We’ve now shipped out… enough to test 75,000 people at the public health labs now.
TRUMP: Anybody who wants a test can get a test. https://t.co/3t4HovKiFI" / Twitter
Dan Diamond on Twitter: "Trump’s claim that “anybody who wants a test can get a test” is false.
My colleague @davidalim, who broke the initial story of CDC test problems, reports tonight that Trump admin is running well behind its target for tests that can be run. https://t.co/FOQA9dGFoe" / Twitter
Trump administration still struggling to ramp up coronavirus testing - POLITICO - Mar 6 - "At least 23 states have now confirmed cases of the coronavirus."
Dan Diamond on Twitter: "Also: for those just discovering Robert Redfield, here’s our piece about his background and the missteps at CDC — written 10 days ago, before the first unexplained coronavirus cases in US were reported. [url]https://t.co/cIHe5zzReY https://t.co/IC167d9KiQ" / Twitter[/url]
Dan Diamond on Twitter: "NEW: Looking at CDC director ROBERT REDFIELD, whose agency’s decisions have been increasingly second-guessed as U.S. coronavirus outbreak odds have grown. https://t.co/k0TzjSxqjD" / Twitter
Trump’s CDC chief faces increasingly harsh scrutiny - POLITICO - Feb 26 - "Early missteps on coronavirus, lack of a consistent message make the nation's disease-fighting agency a focus of criticism."
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Dan Diamond on Twitter: "At CDC, Trump is flanked by AZAR and REDFIELD — two officials facing most scrutiny over coronavirus response.
TRUMP: Doctor, do you want to make a little statement?
REDFIELD: First I want to thank you, for your decisive leadership…that's the most important thing I want to say. https://t.co/DH6oWiqAfN" / Twitter
Dan Diamond on Twitter: "Answering question about coronavirus response, Trump detours into discussing Fox News town hall ratings. https://t.co/Ly6Q3Jcj6x" / Twitter
Dan Diamond on Twitter: "AZAR tries to explain that more tests are coming, but Trump waves him off to jump in.
TRUMP: “Anybody that needs a test gets a test…. the tests are all perfect like the letter was perfect. The transcription was perfect. Right? This was not as perfect as that but pretty good.” https://t.co/A3hgYOJLUt" / Twitter
Dan Diamond on Twitter: "Trump muses that he could’ve become a research scientist instead of president.
TRUMP: I like this stuff. I really get it… every one of these doctors said, ‘how do you know so much about this?’ Maybe I have a natural ability. https://t.co/9ppWsjwN2v" / Twitter
Dan Diamond on Twitter: "Telling moment earlier, when asked about coronavirus test availability.
AZAR: You won’t believe me, why don’t you talk to Dr Redfield.
REDFIELD: We’ve now shipped out… enough to test 75,000 people at the public health labs now.
TRUMP: Anybody who wants a test can get a test. https://t.co/3t4HovKiFI" / Twitter
Dan Diamond on Twitter: "Trump’s claim that “anybody who wants a test can get a test” is false.
My colleague @davidalim, who broke the initial story of CDC test problems, reports tonight that Trump admin is running well behind its target for tests that can be run. https://t.co/FOQA9dGFoe" / Twitter
Trump administration still struggling to ramp up coronavirus testing - POLITICO - Mar 6 - "At least 23 states have now confirmed cases of the coronavirus."
Dan Diamond on Twitter: "Also: for those just discovering Robert Redfield, here’s our piece about his background and the missteps at CDC — written 10 days ago, before the first unexplained coronavirus cases in US were reported. [url]https://t.co/cIHe5zzReY https://t.co/IC167d9KiQ" / Twitter[/url]
Dan Diamond on Twitter: "NEW: Looking at CDC director ROBERT REDFIELD, whose agency’s decisions have been increasingly second-guessed as U.S. coronavirus outbreak odds have grown. https://t.co/k0TzjSxqjD" / Twitter
Trump’s CDC chief faces increasingly harsh scrutiny - POLITICO - Feb 26 - "Early missteps on coronavirus, lack of a consistent message make the nation's disease-fighting agency a focus of criticism."
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Of course, if he died from it, his sheep followers would think it was a plot to assassinate the President because Covid-19 is a lie.
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Opinion | You Can’t Gaslight a Virus - The New York Times - "President Trump’s usual political tricks won’t work now."
Few Americans Express Positive Views of Trump’s Conduct in Office | Pew Research Center
Most Republicans think that he is intelligent, honest, moral, and fighting for what they believe in, while most Democrats think otherwise. But they agree on a few things about him, like that he is self-centered.
Few Americans Express Positive Views of Trump’s Conduct in Office | Pew Research Center
Most Republicans think that he is intelligent, honest, moral, and fighting for what they believe in, while most Democrats think otherwise. But they agree on a few things about him, like that he is self-centered.
More Democrats than Republicans have tried to be prepared. "Trump could be making his most ardent supporters a petri dish of disease."
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Influenza killed his grandfather in 1918. People studying this guy 200 years from now will still be saying “WTF?”.
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If Bernie was President, he already said he wouldn't shut down the border to stop the virus because that's racist. The left is getting out of control. Stopping the spread of a virus is now considered racist. Fox News was just discussing this.
They asked, "What would the Democrats plan be that would be so much better than Trump?" One of them responded, "I think they would let the scientists handle it," and they responded, "And that's what Trump and Pence are doing!"
They asked, "What would the Democrats plan be that would be so much better than Trump?" One of them responded, "I think they would let the scientists handle it," and they responded, "And that's what Trump and Pence are doing!"