Tulsi Gabbard sues Hillary Clinton for $50M, claims defamation over 'Russian asset' remark

[ZiprHead]

Truth is a defense in any defamation suit, and the definition of "Russian Asset" is "someone with an ideology different from Hillary's ideology".

No, the definition of "Russian Asset" is anything the Russians can use or consider to be an asset.

And according to Hillary, anyone or anything that opposes Hillary benefits the Russians.

Delusion in the face of facts.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

It will be summarily dismissed. Not only did she not name Gabbard, the comment wasn't defamatory against her if she had. At best, it was defamatory against Russia--accusing them of having an agenda in our politics--which has already been proven true.

And by bringing the suit she's saying that she's the one accused.

She's outing herself as a Russian supporter. If the foo shits....

 

[Koyaanisqatsi]

This is like saying that Kasparov's opponent won in chess because he had more pieces on the board.

Actually, it's like saying Kasparov checkmated his opponent in the World Chess Championship, but because he hit the timer on his final move .01 seconds after time, he isn't the better player.

He's still the better player, he just didn't get the trophy on a technicality.

 

[Trausti]

 

[Derec]

He's still the better player, he just didn't get the trophy on a technicality.

It's not a technicality, it's the rules of the "game" since 1788. Running up the score doesn't matter any more than running up the score in the 3rd game of the NBA finals (and scoring more cumulative points over all seven games) but losing 4-3.

 

[Derec]

As to who is more physically fit, TG has released pictures and video of herself doing workouts, and AOC will find it hard to compete with that. However, she lugged big buckets filled with ice in her bartender years, and she once stepped onto a table to deliver a speech.

My money is still on Tulsi. She is kinda crazy, and you can't discount crazy in hand-to-hand combat. AOC is merely dumb.

 

[Toni]

As to who is more physically fit, TG has released pictures and video of herself doing workouts, and AOC will find it hard to compete with that. However, she lugged big buckets filled with ice in her bartender years, and she once stepped onto a table to deliver a speech.

My money is still on Tulsi. She is kinda crazy, and you can't discount crazy in hand-to-hand combat. AOC is merely dumb.

Yer jus jealoussss.

 

[Derec]

Stop watching Fox news and unbaffle.

Not a Fox watcher. Not a big fan of cults of personality, be it the Donald or Hillary.

She won by almost three million votes (ten million when you include express preference of voters who ended up not voting for non-partisan reasons) in the third largest raw vote tally in US history, beating every single white male to have previously run for and hold the office.

That and about three fiddy will get her a coffee at Starbucks...

And she didn't need to cheat to get there.

She'd have been better advised to play the map strategically. Running up the score in California is pointless.

 

[Derec]

Yer jus jealoussss.

Of whom?

 

[Derec]

Hillary was never my first choice as candidate.

So who was? We know you can't stand Bernie. So was it Martin O'ne Percent?

I'm almost certain I know and am related to more combat officers than you. I'm not impressed by Gabbard in the least. And honestly? I wanted to like her. Then I did some reading and checking and listening to her and: no way.

The veteran thing was in reference to the proposed fight between her and Hillary.
I do not think she'd be a good president, but she sure would wipe the floor with her.

She does have very pretty hair, though.

Not just hair.

She would definitely be by far the most attractive president.

I am not sure she is above the Vicky Mendoza diagonal though ...

 

[Toni]

So who was? We know you can't stand Bernie. So was it Martin O'ne Percent?


The veteran thing was in reference to the proposed fight between her and Hillary.
I do not think she'd be a good president, but she sure would wipe the floor with her.

She does have very pretty hair, though.

Not just hair.
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She would definitely be by far the most attractive president.

I am not sure she is above the Vicky Mendoza diagonal though ...
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It's not so much that I can't stand Bernie as it is that he's just too old. And then his bros have done him poor service in my view. And then there's his lackluster career, his spewing spittle and his angry old crank act--which has its place but it's not as leader of the free world or whatever the US has become under Trump.

It's obvious what you like about Gabbard. Personally, I don't find anyone attractive who has no soul....Also are you sure that's Gabbard? Looks more like Padma Lakshmi. Certainly in the face. Not that you are looking at the face...I can't find the exact image but look at these:

Tulsi:



Padma:



It's a stretch for you maybe but look at the faces. That definitely does not look like Gabbard.


My candidate in 2016 didn't actually run. I really wanted Warren to run and failing that, I would have settled for Biden--two vastly different candidates, I know but still both able to work hard and effectively. Aside from Warren,I wasn't really in love with any candidate. I felt that Clinton would get it because she was 'owed.' I think she would have done an excellent job as POTUS and certainly far better than what we have now. She was too militaristic for my liking but still better than what we have.

 

[RVonse]

It will be summarily dismissed. Not only did she not name Gabbard, the comment wasn't defamatory against her if she had. At best, it was defamatory against Russia--accusing them of having an agenda in our politics--which has already been proven true.

Sadly I have to agree with you this time Koy.
Although I can't dent how much pleasure it would have provided if someone had finally blow away that Clinton bitch vampire for a few million.

I can still dream about what could been if it's not going to happen.

 

[Koyaanisqatsi]

He's still the better player, he just didn't get the trophy on a technicality.

It's not a technicality,

As always, you miss the point. He checkmated his opponent, which makes him the better chess player, but lost the trophy due to something that had nothing to do with his superior abilities to play the game.

There is no possible way to strategize a loss by popular vote, yet win by electoral college. EVERY candidate is hopping they win enough electoral votes, but the ONLY way to do that is to try to convince people to vote for you and hope they will.

Hillary Clinton convinced the largest number of voters to vote for her.

She did not lose the Presidency because not enough people voted for her. She lost the presidency because your neighbor's vote counts for 1,000 of your votes.

Yes, everyone is aware of this. No, there is nothing--NOTHING--that can be done to ensure it goes your way. Iow, short of cheating, there is nothing any player can do to checkmate an Electoral College win where you lose the popular vote.

No, not even returning to a state in person.

 

[Elixir]

And according to Hillary, anyone or anything that opposes Hillary benefits the Russians.

Delusion in the face of facts.

Yeah... but delusion anywhere else is just a waste of delusion, right?

 

[Koyaanisqatsi]

Although I can't dent how much pleasure it would have provided if someone had finally blow away that Clinton bitch vampire for a few million.

And yet, if I gave you a few million, you couldn't possibly provide anything substantive against her to justify such irrational hatred.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Let's think about this. What benifits the Russians?

1. Chaos in the US.
2. Non-interventionist policy.
3. Pro-corporation policy. Russian oligarchs are capitalists and want corrupt US politicians who bow to money.

Russians must have an extreme preference for the Donald.

They may have a small preference for Gabbard (2). But they also are liking Trump and Clinton being so divisive right now (1).

Our policies, what is best for the US, ought not merely depend on what Russia likes or doesn't like.

We could also call pro-war or interventionists military industrial complex assets or neocon assets. Or people who are die-hard capitalists, we could call corporate assets.

Labels are just labels. The substance of policies, in particular how they effect people, matters way more.

 

[Gun Nut]

I think she was probably talking about Gabbard and that Gabbard did somewhat suffer as a result of the remark...barring some discovery info where my conclusions may differ later.

...and the lawsuit is frivolous.

This is politics. Grow a thicker skin. If there is some fair amount, maybe $500K, $50K, or $5K or something. $50M is orders of magnitude too large.

unless, of course, what was said is factually correct. All Clinton need do is show one single thing Gabbard said that the Russians might not have hated, or a single article written by a single person with any speck of Russian descent in them supporting her, and that would sufficiently support the comment that she was a russian favorite (at that exact moment in time and for no specified duration).

 

[ideologyhunter]

Fox just offered both of them $5 million to settle their case on a special 10-episode Survivor reboot, to be taped on an uninhabited atoll in the Marquesas. Gabbard is rocking that Julia Louis-Dreyfuss look, but there's a ton of places in the tropical flora to get that shit tangled up. My money's on the mullet -- she will whup aye-ess!

 

[Toni]

I think she was probably talking about Gabbard and that Gabbard did somewhat suffer as a result of the remark...barring some discovery info where my conclusions may differ later.

...and the lawsuit is frivolous.

This is politics. Grow a thicker skin. If there is some fair amount, maybe $500K, $50K, or $5K or something. $50M is orders of magnitude too large.

unless, of course, what was said is factually correct. All Clinton need do is show one single thing Gabbard said that the Russians might not have hated, or a single article written by a single person with any speck of Russian descent in them supporting her, and that would sufficiently support the comment that she was a russian favorite (at that exact moment in time and for no specified duration).

Clinton doesn’t need to show anything about Gabbard’s involvement or ‘involvement’ with Russia. She never mentioned Gabbard by name. Just because she used a female pronoun, it doesn’t even necessarily mean that Clinton was referring to a female candidate. The general pronoun does not always need to be masculine.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

As to who is more physically fit, TG has released pictures and video of herself doing workouts, and AOC will find it hard to compete with that. However, she lugged big buckets filled with ice in her bartender years, and she once stepped onto a table to deliver a speech.

My money is still on Tulsi. She is kinda crazy, and you can't discount crazy in hand-to-hand combat. AOC is merely dumb.

Yer jus jealoussss.

Gabbard was handed significant power within the DNC after winning a seat. But then she decided she knew better and backed Sanders. Gabbard then decided to run for President, with almost no experience.

Ocasio-Cortez came from out of no where to win a long time incumbent's House seat, and has shown some DC IQ in decisions she has made, from particular questions she has asked during House committee hearings to making good decision such as she wasn't dumb enough to oppose Pelosi for Speaker.

Ocasio-Cortez is growing as a politician... Gabbard's quick ascension went to her head and it has stunted political growth.