I found that information in multiple sources, as I never believe one source. So, is The New Yorker magazine too leftist for you too?
Information is not a problem, it's the idiotic spin Glen Greenwald's rag put on it. Let's dissect the New Yorker piece as if it was finest gossamer. Or vorshtein.
The Americans who travelled to the Islamic State fit no single type. So far, the returnees have included a substitute teacher from Texas, a Baptist mother of four from Indiana, a former student from Columbia University, and an F.B.I. translator who married the terrorist she was spying on. Most were born in the United States; they were not immigrants.
They may be US born, and thus technically not immigrants, but they most of them were still from Islamic culture, born to and raised in Muslim families. The claim of the Intercept article is that they had no connection to Islamic communities, when that is very much false, as I have shown.
Now there are some converts - especially women tend to be vulnerable to conversion. Strange I know, as being a woman converting to Islam is like being a chicken converting to KFC, but it is what it is. That said, majority are not white or black Americans converting to Islam but people from Islamic families and culy
Deciding the fate of the Islamic State’s former citizens is a legal and moral minefield.
I say hold a tribunal there and let them serve their sentence there. We and EU can pledge to fund the operation of the ISIS prisons, but they should not come here. It's too risky.
-security interests can conflict with individual rights. Their cases raise unanswered questions about the government’s authority to invoke wartime powers against the Islamic State without congressional authorization. The timing of returns so far suggests that the Justice Department may not want to repatriate isis members until it has sufficient evidence to indict them immediately upon arrival. American citizens cannot be jailed indefinitely at home without violating their constitutional rights. Yet simply figuring out what each individual did in the caliphate—a “state” that no longer physically exists—is a time-consuming challenge. The main witnesses may be other citizens of the Islamic State.
As I said, try them there. The crimes of ISIS were largely committed there, so why not. Let Kurds mete out their justice.
The point is that many native born Americans, many of them are as white as you and me, have been indoctrinated by propaganda on social media, which motivated them to join ISIS.
Some, mostly women falling in love with some Muslim guy and converting for him, like Samantha Elhassani fit that bill. But most, like say Hoda Muthana who was born in US but is actually Yemeni do not. Most ISIS recruits come from Islamic families and from an Islamic culture.
You bring up two immigrants, while not mentioning the many native born American citizens of various backgrounds that have joined.
This was recently in the news. I was not offering a compendium on all US residents joining ISIS.
The immigrants are statistically no greater threat than citizens.
Not true. Immigrants (and their children) from Islamic cultures have a much greater chance of Islamic radicalization.
And, btw, my husband is the grandson of a Syrian immigrant and a Lebanese immigrant. He was raised as a Catholic and has been an atheist for more than forty years His parents were Catholics.
Yes, there are Christian minorities in both Syria and Lebanon, less so than before due to persecution by the Muslims. My point is not so much about countries, but about culture.
So again, you assume that the offspring of Arabic immigrants are all from Muslim families.
No, I am not. Show me one sentence where I have assumed that. I have not even focused on Arabs that much. I have talked more about Pakistanis or Somalis than Arabs.
Those that are from Muslim families are often moderate or liberal Muslims. I've met quite a few of them. They aren't scary in the least, certainly no scarier than the members of any other religion.
Depends on the family. I have met such people too. Does not mean that there are not a lot of them who are genuinely scary.
But, unless I've missed it, none of your threads ever mention that. It's always about immigrants.
It's not always about immigrants, but we have to be aware of the threat
certain immigrants bring. If they are from a culture that is incompatible with the West, and they refuse to change, then that is a problem. And that goes for the white skinned ones too, like the Albanian Dukas.
These days, the biggest threat is white nationalists. How many sources do you need to see to convince you of that? I'm sure I can find numerous, but if you are willing to be open minded, you too can find sources too. Didn't our own FBI recently say that white nationalists are currently the biggest threat of terrorism?
You really need to ignore things like 9/11 to come to that conclusion. Or pretend that say Omar Mateen (Pulse Nightclub, Orlando) was a "white nationalist", because, despite being an Afghan Muslim who called himself a mujaheddin and who pledged allegiance to ISIS leader al Baghdadi, he was born in the US and his skin wasn't all that dark. It's that kind of skulduggery that I am decrying here, same as with that idiotic Intercept article.
