Voter fraud police spring into action...against possible Democrat voters

[credoconsolans]

Here we go.

Accusations of voter fraud in the state of Indiana, of whom Pence is Republican governor, and VP candidate, have caused the police to raid, seize into evidence and shut down a group that gets people registered to vote.

Strange that it's an organization that works in black communities.

Now the group doesn't know if the people they registered to vote will be able to if an 'investigation is ongoing'.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-police-raid-registration-program-in-indiana/

 

[bilby]

Perhaps someone should have told the Indiana State police that the phrase 'voter fraud police' is supposed to mean 'police who prevent voter fraud', not 'police who commit voter fraud'.

The ambiguity of the English language strikes again

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Probably partially correct. These voter registration groups tend to pay people based on the number of applications--which invites making fake applications. It isn't a serious problem, though, nobody is trying to vote those false applications.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Probably partially correct. These voter registration groups tend to pay people based on the number of applications--which invites making fake applications. It isn't a serious problem, though, nobody is trying to vote those false applications.

Sounds like ACORN again. Nothing bad happens in the end, yet the right screams "voter fraud" from the mountain tops.

 

[Valjean]

Probably partially correct. These voter registration groups tend to pay people based on the number of applications--which invites making fake applications. It isn't a serious problem, though, nobody is trying to vote those false applications.

Yet the unqualified registrants don't end up on the official voter rolls. They don't actually vote.

The Republicans use the false 'voter fraud' meme to justify a plethora of restrictive regulations: diminished voting options, restricted polling place hours, fewer polling places in minority areas, removal of qualified voters from the rolls, &c. The real problem isn't 'voter fraud', but voter disenfranchisement.
The Republicans disenfranchise tens of thousands of qualified voters, by a variety of deliberate strategies, in an effort to support corporate interests over the welfare of the average citizen.

"Voter fraud" is a drop in the bucket; a non-issue.

 

[whichphilosophy]

There have been some instances of 'dead' people voting. There is no evidence this is widespread but such names seem to appear now and again.

 

[Elixir]

There have been some instances of 'dead' people voting. There is no evidence this is widespread but such names seem to appear now and again.

Which either is or is not good reason to question the validity of our democratic process? Which is it, in your opinion? A simple yes/no answer would be prefereable to the usual mealy-mouthed attempts to trumpify* your answer. Thanks.

*"trumpify" - to couch an assertion in terms of what one has heard other people say, e.g. "They're getting phone calls saying votes have been switched. A lot of people are saying that." (Trying to justify "they should call off the election and just hand it to Trump.")

 

[Loren Pechtel]

There have been some instances of 'dead' people voting. There is no evidence this is widespread but such names seem to appear now and again.

Ballot box or absentee, though? Absentee fraud is much easier to pull off and appears to be the main source of vote fraud.

 

[whichphilosophy]

There have been some instances of 'dead' people voting. There is no evidence this is widespread but such names seem to appear now and again.

Which either is or is not good reason to question the validity of our democratic process? Which is it, in your opinion? A simple yes/no answer would be prefereable to the usual mealy-mouthed attempts to trumpify* your answer. Thanks.

*"trumpify" - to couch an assertion in terms of what one has heard other people say, e.g. "They're getting phone calls saying votes have been switched. A lot of people are saying that." (Trying to justify "they should call off the election and just hand it to Trump.")

Trumpeting is not necessary. This should be investigated and where necessary improvements made. When someone dies their details are not always removed from the electoral register. Maybe an cross reference between the morgues and this document could be set up. There may still be errors (like the wrong person's details deleted. Faulty ballot machines may or may not switch in large numbers. I don't even understand with our modern technology how this became possible.

If people make phone calls about their votes being switched then this should be investigated.

 

[Elixir]

Which either is or is not good reason to question the validity of our democratic process? Which is it, in your opinion? A simple yes/no answer would be prefereable to the usual mealy-mouthed attempts to trumpify* your answer. Thanks.

*"trumpify" - to couch an assertion in terms of what one has heard other people say, e.g. "They're getting phone calls saying votes have been switched. A lot of people are saying that." (Trying to justify "they should call off the election and just hand it to Trump.")

Trumpeting is not necessary.

...and then you go on to do exactly that. Never touched the question:

[It] either is or is not good reason to question the validity of our democratic process? Which is it, in your opinion?

If people make phone calls about their votes being switched then this should be investigated.

That's a whole other question. But since you are unable to answer the one I asked...
If those alleged calls ONLY come in to Trump campaign headquarters rather than to the FEC, why should anyone give them one bit of credence?