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We are on the Verge of Economic Catastrophe

There is much talk of doom and gloom, but the timing and form of the coming crisis are uncertain. There are many anecdotes of American manufacturers shutting down lines, e.g. due to worry about the availability of aluminum, but monthly indicators remain strong. Are we headed for recession, i.e. rising unemployment? Perhaps not, since jobseekers might find work at the slots vacated by deported immigrants.

Jeffrey Sachs points out that the world was headed for financial crisis even before the reins of power were handed to the Orange Idiot. The move away from the Dollar as the only key reserve currency began in 2022 under Biden with the freezing of Russia's accounts at central banks. (Regardless of whether this was the morally correct action it reminded countries that their dollar reserves were subject to U.S. whim. How would you like your checking account frozen because the bank didn't like your politics?)

I see Canada being praised for standing up to the U.S. and diverting its trade to countries other than U.S. Canada's calm bravery is compared with Trump's psychotic behavior. But won't Canada still suffer a severe economic downturn? Do we need to wait several months to judge this? Pundits speak of foreign central banks buying gold instead of U.S. Treasuries. But I see anecdotes, not firm data. The 30-year Treasury yield just poked its nose above 5% but it was that high in 2023.

Are American commercial banks being propped up by the government? I still don't properly understand why banks should earn 5.4% on their excess reserves. Nor why the cash reserve required to back demand deposits was reduced to zero. I see that in 2022, the NET unrealized gains of commercial banks on their securities was a whopping NEGATIVE $700 Billion! There were five different datasets available at FedRes's FRED site for "Unrealized gains (losses) at commercial banks on available-to-sell securities." In 2022 all five of these datasets were DISCONTINUED.

I've been reading in an attempt glean what the consensus forecast is, but all I come up with is "chaos and unpredictability." Sell your long-term bonds. This may be a good time to refinance your house. The stock-market bubble will burst ... but when?
 
That’s hilarious, but it’s also a sad snapshot of the world stage, experts and experience getting dismissed in favor of loud yet stupid opinions.
 

I was thinking about a way to invest in copper. Maybe I will wait to see how bad tRump hurts the market.
 
Jobs report is whacked!

In addition to an estimate of only 73K jobs added in July, how could the May and June estimates be so far off?

The prior two months’ revisions were “stunning,” said Diane Swonk, chief economist at KPMG, in an interview with CNN.


May’s estimated 144,000 net gain was revised down by 125,000 to 19,000; and June’s preliminary tally of 147,000 was slashed by 133,000 to 14,000, according to data released Friday from the Bureau of Labor Statistics.


“It’s stalling out right now,” Swonk said of the labor market.

This is not just the usual revision of the numbers. What the heck is going on at the Bureau of Labor Statistics??

 
Trump is going to say this is more evidence that rates need to go down. The trouble is, spending and investment dropped due to tariff uncertainty. His fucking around with the US Economy might finally be hitting the numbers. And if the gain this month was 70k, was it really a loss?
 
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Tariffs and soft jobs data. Has the attitude finally changed on Wall Street? Trump said back in February "Americans may feel some pain". So, yeah, you could say he never promised us a Rose Garden. ;)
 
Jobs report is whacked!

In addition to an estimate of only 73K jobs added in July, how could the May and June estimates be so far off?

The prior two months’ revisions were “stunning,” said Diane Swonk, chief economist at KPMG, in an interview with CNN.


May’s estimated 144,000 net gain was revised down by 125,000 to 19,000; and June’s preliminary tally of 147,000 was slashed by 133,000 to 14,000, according to data released Friday from the Bureau of Labor Statistics.


“It’s stalling out right now,” Swonk said of the labor market.

This is not just the usual revision of the numbers. What the heck is going on at the Bureau of Labor Statistics??

They were all fired by DOGE?
 
Revisions are common.
Childish retributive actions by presidents in response to revisions they don’t like … not so much.
 
Jobs report is whacked!

In addition to an estimate of only 73K jobs added in July, how could the May and June estimates be so far off?

The prior two months’ revisions were “stunning,” said Diane Swonk, chief economist at KPMG, in an interview with CNN.


May’s estimated 144,000 net gain was revised down by 125,000 to 19,000; and June’s preliminary tally of 147,000 was slashed by 133,000 to 14,000, according to data released Friday from the Bureau of Labor Statistics.


“It’s stalling out right now,” Swonk said of the labor market.

This is not just the usual revision of the numbers. What the heck is going on at the Bureau of Labor Statistics??

They were all fired by DOGE?

Or DOGE did first report.
 
Revisions are common.
Childish retributive actions by presidents in response to revisions they don’t like … not so much.

Trump is all about childish retribution and everything is always all about him.

And since he pretty much always lies, his talk about needing numbers that can be trusted leads me to believe that he'll do what he can to make sure that the numbers can't be trusted.

Also because all of his accusations are admissions, and because he claimed without evidence that BLS cooked the numbers to make him look bad that makes me even more confident that he plans to cook the numbers to make him look good.
 
Yup. Somebody's going to lose their job there.

Trump fires a senior official over jobs numbers​



I don't know what happened but I can't help but think that Trump is setting things up to fake the numbers.
I think the market would crash if investors thought they couldn't trust the numbers. How does one invest in an economy when they can't trust the data coming out of the government?
 
Yup. Somebody's going to lose their job there.

Trump fires a senior official over jobs numbers​



I don't know what happened but I can't help but think that Trump is setting things up to fake the numbers.
I think the market would crash if investors thought they couldn't trust the numbers. How does one invest in an economy when they can't trust the data coming out of the government?

Trump is likely to find that out the hard way. And the rest of us will suffer. Remember that he doesn't really care about anything but himself. He seems perfectly happy to ruin the economy to feel like a big man.
 
Yup. Somebody's going to lose their job there.

Trump fires a senior official over jobs numbers​



I don't know what happened but I can't help but think that Trump is setting things up to fake the numbers.

It's his usual m.o., fire anybody who tells him the truth until he gets someone in there who will tell him happy lies. And then the rest of the world has to pay for it.
 
Seems the whole GOP is on board with this Trump lie to cover up the fact that his policies and GOP's enacting them are really fucking up the economy. I don't see any of the resident trumpers criticizing this obvious cooking of the books.
 
Seems the whole GOP is on board with this Trump lie to cover up the fact that his policies and GOP's enacting them are really fucking up the economy. I don't see any of the resident trumpers criticizing this obvious cooking of the books.

Fuck up the economy and screw lower income people given that tariffs are just as regressive as sales taxes - because tariffs are a sales tax.

I was worried that Trump would get around to cooking the government economic data way back months ago. His whole administration is about lying.
 
I hope she sues the holy hell out of him for some of the things he said about her. The stupid fuck doesn't know how to keep his mouth shut.
 
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