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Well... it's Trump... again. #47, here we go.

I suppose it goes without saying around here we have a madman in the Oval Office.

He is acting exactly lie he did running his businesses, which failed.
 

National Science Foundation suspends salary payments, leaving researchers unable to pay their bills​

NSF payment system remained offline despite the lifting of Trump administration funding freeze​


Trump's goons are either lying or total fuckups.
 

National Science Foundation suspends salary payments, leaving researchers unable to pay their bills​

NSF payment system remained offline despite the lifting of Trump administration funding freeze​


Trump's goons are either lying or total fuckups.

From the article:
Though a judge blocked that suspension on Tuesday before it could take effect, and the administration rescinded the memo that ordered it on Wednesday, on Thursday the NSF’s online payment system was still down...

This is a lawless administration. Even taking them to court won't stop them.
 
What makes you think federal employees live in DC? And most federal workers don’t live in DC or the surrounding areas,

I used to live in the DC area. Back then, the cost of living was higher than in the Midwest (where I’ve spent over 90% of my adult life) and federal pay was not generous. So I suspect you are misinformed about federal compensation.
the GS (General Schedule) scale of federal compensation is public, easily obtained information. Federal workers work all over the country, too, not just in DC. We need not speculate here as the information exists.
But speculation is much more readily matched to our beliefs.

Who wants to use information? All that does is get in the way of believing stuff.
According to the OPM, less than 8% of the federal workforce is in DC proper, and about 15% in the greater DC metro area.

 
What makes you think federal employees live in DC? And most federal workers don’t live in DC or the surrounding areas,

I used to live in the DC area. Back then, the cost of living was higher than in the Midwest (where I’ve spent over 90% of my adult life) and federal pay was not generous. So I suspect you are misinformed about federal compensation.
the GS (General Schedule) scale of federal compensation is public, easily obtained information. Federal workers work all over the country, too, not just in DC. We need not speculate here as the information exists.
But speculation is much more readily matched to our beliefs.

Who wants to use information? All that does is get in the way of believing stuff.
According to the OPM, less than 8% of the federal workforce is in DC proper, and about 15% in the greater DC metro area.

You mean all those Social Security offices across the country aren't in DC?
 

National Science Foundation suspends salary payments, leaving researchers unable to pay their bills​

NSF payment system remained offline despite the lifting of Trump administration funding freeze​

Trump's goons are either lying or total fuckups.
It can be and likely is both.
 
Interest expense of the deficit is more than the military budget now. This is how empires fall.

Interesting. You blame the deficit on lazy government workers but then choose interest on the debt as your example of over-spending! 8-)
What? Do you think a large percentage of the interest payments ends up in the paws of the lazy bureaucrats? :confused2:

Scrutinizing the Federal Budget is a pastime many of us have indulged in off-and-on for decades.
And "fiscal conservatives" (as well as their fellow travelers like Johnsonists) keep making the same mistakes. Foreign aid is a case in point: The Ilks think this is a large percentage of federal spending, and that it goes to "undeserving shithole countries!" In fact, foreign aid is minuscule in percentage terms and mostly goes to allies with big military needs like Israel and Ukraine.

I've attached Wikipedia's graphic for the 2023 budget below. Note that Mandatory spending (including "mandatory" Interest) is roughly EQUAL to total revenue. BTW, (a) Social Security (payouts minus payroll taxes) is STILL showing a profit; (b) "Mandatory" payouts do NOT include Veterans' Benefits; (c) Bloating in Defense budget is mostly due to profiteering private corporations; (d) et cetera.

One thing that RVonse DID get correct is that -- contrary to the year-old Wikipedia graphic -- Interest now exceeds Military. I did a Google to confirm this.

But I DID not come here to discuss the Federal budget. I came here to point and laugh at Google's AI Overview. Here's what it gave me:

Google AI Overview said:
As of October 2024, the US government paid 3.3% interest on its debt each month. This is more than double the rate in 2020.

3.3% interest PER MONTH!!? What did they do? Borrow the money from a New Jersey loan shark??

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2023_US_Federal_Budget_Infographic.png
 
Tell that to all the private corporations who do this all the time
You understand private corporations aren't expected to provide basic services that working families desperately depend upon day in and day out right? What's with your hatred of the middle class?

Also, weren't you complaining a few days ago that that the government wasn't adequately prepared for the once in a lifetime fires in LA? So which is it - you either want "efficiency in government" (which everybody knows is code for the extreme bare minimum to get the job done and pray all the moving parts work 100% all the time), or you want government so flush with resources they can handle anything.

Stop talking out of both sides of your fucking mouth.
I've never worked for government but I have worked from some really big corporations over long periods of time. Generally what happens is that sales are really good so they hire a bunch of people for production who then hire a bunch of more administrators. And then over time those administrators get even more lazy and try to prove how hard they are working so they can get their headcount numbers increased even more. Everything works out well but all the administrators start slacking (because of all the headcount) but still making a lot of money. It should be noted that production headcount is more tied to the actual production but administration is not. Anyway for one reason or another sales will inevitably tank and the CEO starts closing plants and laying off people. When he starts closing the plants and laying off all the excess headcount I guarantee he is not thinking about quality or anything else except survival. Maybe he should be but he isn't. They just keep laying off until the line can't run any longer and then and only then will they start hiring back only what it takes to run again.

That is where our government is today. Too many administrators hired over the years, some of them just looking busy. Bloated salaries and defined pensions no longer competitive in private industry. Those are the dead weight Musk will be looking for. It isn't possible to get rid of government employees so the only practical approach Musk can do is to lay them all off en mass and then re-hire what it takes to run afterwords. It sounds stupid but that is exactly how the super huge corporations do it because it works and they can't get down to nitty gritty with such a huge personnel to do it more efficiently. First they bring in the buyouts and incentive's for the old people that want to retire anyway. Then they bring in the ax to get down to their goal.
That's quite the resume you've got there. You're hired! :rolleyes:

Really? You're going to have to place a lot more on the table about your experience before anyone is going to take you seriously.
 
The Department of Justice has deleted its webpage on the US Capitol riot investigations.

It never happened.
 
The Department of Justice has deleted its webpage on the US Capitol riot investigations.

It never happened.
What never happened?
 
What does the following have to do with "Trump Again 47"? It provides further evidence that the STAGGERING ignorance of American voters is caused in part by the STUPENDOUS incompetence of U.S. News media.

I hate to say it but part of the dumbing down of America happened when people started to listening to comedians for political guidance. Instead of coming to their own conclusions through actual thought. This partly allowed people like Joe Rogan to become popular.

I think objections to comedians as political commentators are misplaced.

I've deleted the attribution from the inner quote because I don't want to point fingers. The claim is a common blunder.

And if someone refuses to get their news from "comedians" like Colbert or Oliver, it is best to go OUTSIDE the U.S.A.
I'm about to get Yelps of anger from the Ignorati here, but I find that Aljazeera often provides excellent news -- certainly better than most American sources -- both international news and even U.S. news! (Obviously their coverage of the Israel-Hamas war is too one-sided -- Duuhhh! -- but do you think the lies about this war from American media are any better?)

It was at Aljazeera that I was reminded just now that the 80th anniversary of the Liberation of the Auschwitz and Birkenau death camps was just 4 days ago; this is now the International Day in Memory of the Victims of the Holocaust observed around the world. This day of observance was noted on dozens of European news sites, noted at a major Indian newspaper -- all of which were pointed to by Google News -- and featured prominently at Aljazeera (though this link wasn't mentioned at Google's 1st page of results). (And no, the respectful Aljazeera article was not an anti-semitic screed. There are plenty of U.S. sites if you want foul-mouthed screeds.)

Among U.S. news sources ONLY the non-profit AP News can be trusted to be objective and thorough: It gave prominent attention to the International Holocaust Remembrance Day. All FOUR of the (once?) most respected U.S. newspapers now need a paid subscription to view but seemed silent about Remembrance Day. Only L.A. Times seemed to allow me to do a Search. No mention of this special anniversary.

We have met the enemy and he/she is Us.
 
But for most everyone else on this thread knowing how dumb and corrupt Trump and MAGA are, could I hear your response on Biden's pre-emptive pardons for INNOCENT people prior to leaving office?

Are you in some sort of contest with yourself for inanity?

Pardoning GUILTY people can be problematic. What is your objection to pardoning INNOCENT people?

In the unlikely event that you deign to address this question, but "need" to turn it into a long dialog where concessions of actual thought are squeezed out of you, one short phrase at a time, I will not participate. Just declare yourself the winner now if that rouses your balls.
 

National Science Foundation suspends salary payments, leaving researchers unable to pay their bills​

NSF payment system remained offline despite the lifting of Trump administration funding freeze​


Trump's goons are either lying or total fuckups.
The two categories are not mutually exclusive.
 
You're right. There's almost nobody in DC who is not a federal government employee. Corporate lobbyists, foreign diplomats, lawyers, journalists... They are all fictional.
Not to mention the army of hair and makeup consultants
 
How Trump's deportations will likely hurt New York City's economy. Sharing an article. I have no doubt it won't be just NYC, but this goes into detail. Thanks a lot haters for electing the felon.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/31/...e_code=1.tU4.iH97.aT5CEpUU6cir&smid=url-share

As immigration raids got underway in New York City this week, complete with a visit from the new Homeland Security secretary, Kristi Noem, who showed up in body armor talking about “getting the dirt bags off the streets,” it was hard to see where all of these roundups were headed.

In the early days of the second Trump presidency, it remains unclear to what extent this sort of force amounts to a performance of authority versus an expression of commitment to it. On Tuesday, 39 arrests were made in and around New York City, where the emphasis has been on targeting gang members and others suspected of violence — and where the economy is as reliant on the labor of undocumented workers as plants are on sunlight. Given the prospect of mass deportation — the expulsion of working people who are not murderers or rapists or drug dealers or otherwise dangerous — the consequences for New York’s economy could be quite severe.

So much recent political rhetoric has succeeded in portraying undocumented people as driven to crime rather than contribution, which obscures certain realities. As a group, undocumented immigrants paid $3.1 billion in New York state and local taxes in 2022, for example, a sum equal to the city’s early education budget for the current fiscal year.

That number comes not from a left-leaning human rights group intent on fostering sympathy for people who crossed the border illegally, but rather from the wonky Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy, a nonpartisan Washington think tank. The organization’s research also tells us that nationally, more than a third of the tax dollars paid by undocumented immigrants go toward payroll taxes, which are aimed at backing entitlement programs that these workers are not entitled to access.

Some other facts: In New York City, according to municipal data, more than half of undocumented immigrants have been in this country for more than a decade; 41 percent have been to college, and a quarter have a bachelor’s degree. Last year, a report from the mayor’s office looking at immigrant demographics found that 80 percent of undocumented residents were in the work force, compared with two-thirds of New Yorkers born in this country — in part because most immigrants are of prime working age, between 18 and 64. (This is especially meaningful because the city’s population is getting older: Between 2000 to 2023, the share of people who are 65 and over grew by 53 percent, 17 times faster than the population overall.)

Not only is it cruel to deport these people, it will harm the economy "bigly"
 
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