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RIS said:
Elixir said:
Why?
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Because the world is about to be destroyed. Again.
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By Donald Trump? You may be giving him a little too much credit.
Or perhaps you speak of da Rapture?
I remember the last several times the world was destroyed... hopefully there will be better pictures this time.
 
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RIS said:
pood said:
“Hell hath no fury …” “Do please be quiet … Yes, all of us and especially the Wimmins need to sit down and shut up while RIS manplains/religionsplains the facts of reality to us. But before that maybe he will learn to spell “fabulous,” “wont,” and “hazard.”
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Maybe you'll stop checking the spellcheck to see if I've spelled wright.
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I don’t need the spellcheck. But do go ahead with cute phrases like, “Hell hath no fury …” and “Do please be quiet …”
 
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pood said:
I don’t need the spellcheck. But do go ahead with cute phrases like, “Hell hath no fury …” and “Do please be quiet …”
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School teachers say that all the time. Without the please.

How 'bout, uh, let's see - I better googoo it. Oh, here's one you'll like. "A proper dame knows how to carry herself."

Huh? Whatdya think.

ETA: No one read my status.
 
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RIS said:
Rhea said:
RIS said:
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What difference does it make whether OR NOT gods exist?
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To the extent that people *believe* that god(dess)(es) exist, why, it still doesn’t matter if they actually exist if there is absolutely no discernable effect on us from the god(dess)(es) themselves. And there is, indeed, no discernable effect on us from any theorized god(dess)(es).

However, discussing whether or not they exist does help us to understand the thought processes and likely reactions of people who think that they have a mandate from a god(dess)(es) to try to control others.

So in the end, the discussion is about people, not god(dess)(es).
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Would you agree that if it wasn't gods in question, if it was some other means of control, the effect would be the same? I think that's what you are saying
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No, I would not agree to that. People demonstrably act differently depending on whether they think their physical strength gives them a mandate or whether they think a god(dess)(es) gives them a mandate. So the discussion about whether there are gods becomes about people’s reaction to a belief in god(dess)(es), not the god(dess)(es) themselves.

People who think they are acting on behalf of a god(dess)(es) behave signifucantly differently than people who are just strong or just rich. Indeed, I find that the actions of people who believe they are doing a god(dess)(es)’s will turn out to behave more like sociopaths than anything else.
RIS said:
but HEY - I wouldn't want to presume anything.
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A good learning for you, because you would have been wrong again. It’s much wiser tyo ask what I think that try to tell me what I think. The former will allow you to discover, the latter is just you having a conversation with yourself.
 
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RIS said:
ideologyhunter said:
<Someone beat me to it. Sucks.>
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Impossible. Atheist only have one thing in common. Double speak.
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I’m not one to harp on typos or spelling, but I am definitely one who will appreciate when a typo or spelling error makes a fantastic pun, ironic aside or double entendre.

And the idea that Atheist (singular) only have one thing “in common” and it is double speak, has given me a very good laugh for the day.
 
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RIS said:
ETA: No one read my status.
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People don’t usually. Around here.

But since you wish to point it out…

My work is done here. On to other things.
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I admit being curious what you thought your “work” was, and how you determined it to be done, but not so curious I need you to answer.

What I coinsider my “work” here is self-growth and community, so it’s relatively easy to determine whether I’m making progress, and by definition it would never be done.
 
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RIS said:
pood said:
I don’t need the spellcheck. But do go ahead with cute phrases like, “Hell hath no fury …” and “Do please be quiet …”
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School teachers say that all the time. Without the please.

How 'bout, uh, let's see - I better googoo it. Oh, here's one you'll like. "A proper dame knows how to carry herself."

Huh? Whatdya think.

ETA: No one read my status.
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I don’t know what all the garbage after the first sentence is even supposed to mean, but as to the first sentence, you most certainly are not a teacher of any kind.
 
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Rhea said:
RIS said:
ideologyhunter said:
<Someone beat me to it. Sucks.>
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Impossible. Atheist only have one thing in common. Double speak.
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I’m not one to harp on typos or spelling, but I am definitely one who will appreciate when a typo or spelling error makes a fantastic pun, ironic aside or double entendre.

And the idea that Atheist (singular) only have one thing “in common” and it is double speak, has given me a very good laugh for the day.
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Give the poor guy a break. He's here doing his missionary duty to the unwashed, unpleasant task though that be. He probably thinks that we smell bad, too. :)
 
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RIS said:
SIMPLY

What difference does it make whether OR NOT gods exist?
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As we are in the realm of profound thought, does it really matter if Santa Claus exists or not?

The difference between Santa and the Christian god myth is Santa is what people have done and do in the name of god that has negative consequences to others.
 
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lostone said:
Rhea said:
RIS said:
ideologyhunter said:
<Someone beat me to it. Sucks.>
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Impossible. Atheist only have one thing in common. Double speak.
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I’m not one to harp on typos or spelling, but I am definitely one who will appreciate when a typo or spelling error makes a fantastic pun, ironic aside or double entendre.

And the idea that Atheist (singular) only have one thing “in common” and it is double speak, has given me a very good laugh for the day.
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Give the poor guy a break. He's here doing his missionary duty to the unwashed, unpleasant task though that be. He probably thinks that we smell bad, too. :)
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I believe the Bible says: "Yay, if thou goest among the atheist, and they listen not to thy proselytizing, it is because they're smelly buzzkills, and has nothing to do with the fact that maybe thou shouldn't barge in and acteth like a know-it-all."
(Doorknockers 1:2;34)
 
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What difference does it make?

Well, for most of history, it was very rare to find anyone who didn't believe in God, and who didn't believe that prayer, sacrifice, piety, good works, and generally trying to persuade God to favour them, (their family, their city, their nation, or even all of humanity) was the primary and most effective way to improve life.

Then about three centuries ago, a new way to improve life was suggested: Science and technology.

Which is better? Let's just look at the vast changes and improvements between 0CE and 1400CE, when religion dominated, vs the trivial and inconsequential improvements achieved since the adoption of the scientific method as a guide to reality.

There's a reason why backward and ineffective efforts at producing high quality of life are called "medieval". The medieval period was the high point of Christendom, and was a vile and awful time to be alive. Henry IV may have won the Battle of Agincort, but he never saw a flushing toilet or soft lavatory paper.

Science flies men to the Moon. Religion only flies them into skyscrapers.
 
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