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What if Trayvon Martin Open Carried?

Who cropped this and how? I don't see how it could be cropped to hide the fact that he's black.

Unreal: MSNBC edits clip of man with gun at Obama rally to support racism narrative

Apparently the folks at MSNBC are terrified of the idea of a black man with a gun.
I knew all main stream media is bad but I always figured Fox was the worst with blatant framing of issues and propaganda. It looks like MSNBC is trying to give them stiffer competition on that front.
 
I see a lot of advocacy of self-defense and open carry from corners of the internets. For example, recently a teen was stopped in Aurora, Co while advocating open carry by walking with his shotgun.

http://kdvr.com/2014/08/01/aurora-t...th-shotgun-videotapes-encounters-with-police/

My thought experiment is what if this teen was say Trayvon Martin back* in his neighborhood in Florida, or an Any St., U.S.A. Would this be handled differently? Would the gun advocates stand up for the right of Trayvon to carry or use him as a reason why we need open carry?

Discuss.






*Yes I said "back" not "Black"... you read it wrong... BURN SAUCE! BTW: Trayvon is Black. Not saying race might be an additional factor as "Black teen walking" is only a daily call to 911 in many parts of America.

A better question to ask would be, "What if George Zimmerman had open carried?" The whole point if "open" carry is that people can see the weapon and this will affect most people's behavior.
 
I see a lot of advocacy of self-defense and open carry from corners of the internets. For example, recently a teen was stopped in Aurora, Co while advocating open carry by walking with his shotgun.

http://kdvr.com/2014/08/01/aurora-t...th-shotgun-videotapes-encounters-with-police/

My thought experiment is what if this teen was say Trayvon Martin back* in his neighborhood in Florida, or an Any St., U.S.A. Would this be handled differently? Would the gun advocates stand up for the right of Trayvon to carry or use him as a reason why we need open carry?

Discuss.






*Yes I said "back" not "Black"... you read it wrong... BURN SAUCE! BTW: Trayvon is Black. Not saying race might be an additional factor as "Black teen walking" is only a daily call to 911 in many parts of America.

A better question to ask would be, "What if George Zimmerman had open carried?" The whole point if "open" carry is that people can see the weapon and this will affect most people's behavior.

Interesting. Off topic but interesting. I would say that George Zimmerman's attempted rape of Trayvon Martin would have been successful. Thanks for playing.
 
Huey Newton was hated by whites because he was a radical black panther who advocated the violent overthrow of the U.S. government by black people in what he saw as an inevitable race war.
Imagine, he only wanted to incite a race war and violently overthrow US government and the "whites" hated him. Must have been a bunch of racists - why else would anybody hate him.
According to your previous post, because he was a serial criminal who committed multiple bank robberies and homicides. That simply isn't true. Huey P. Newton was a revolutionary and an extremist who at this point is better known for his bad temper and poor impulse control than he is for his political views, but he was NOT a career criminal, nor did he set out to create a criminal empire.

And again, it was Athena who brought up Newton as an example of blacks open carrying, not I.
Exactly. Because it is well-documented that it was the propensity of the Black Panthers to open-carry in California -- largely as a way of intimidating police officers -- as well as Huey Newton himself that lead to those laws being changed in the first place.

Open carry has ALWAYS been seen as a good thing in America until "certain people" start taking advantage of it. To illustrate this, I invite you to consider how you would feel about the New Black Panthers decided to have an open-carry rally down the street from your house.

Of course, if a Mafia don escapes convictions than that proves he is just a "legitimate businessman", right? Or does that work only for favored minorities heading radical left-wing organizations?
Need I point out the stupendous irony that it also works just as well for the banks the Black Panthers robbed?

He spawned the radical, violent organizations which splintered and members of of on the splinters killed him. Thus his death is directly linked to his radical past.
Probably, but in this case his death is more closely linked to his not having been armed when that radical past caught up with him. If Huey Newton HAD been open-carrying at the time, he would not have been killed.

You live by the sword, you die by the sword. Sometimes, even if you put the sword away.

And besides, if they had a drop on him the shotgun would not have helped him much especially since it is big and thus less maneuverable than a handgun.
You are drastically over-estimating the firearms proficiency of street thugs.

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Hey Derec,

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Say his name three times in the mirror and he'll appear.:eek:
 
I see a lot of advocacy of self-defense and open carry from corners of the internets. For example, recently a teen was stopped in Aurora, Co while advocating open carry by walking with his shotgun.

http://kdvr.com/2014/08/01/aurora-t...th-shotgun-videotapes-encounters-with-police/

My thought experiment is what if this teen was say Trayvon Martin back* in his neighborhood in Florida, or an Any St., U.S.A. Would this be handled differently? Would the gun advocates stand up for the right of Trayvon to carry or use him as a reason why we need open carry?

Discuss.






*Yes I said "back" not "Black"... you read it wrong... BURN SAUCE! BTW: Trayvon is Black. Not saying race might be an additional factor as "Black teen walking" is only a daily call to 911 in many parts of America.

A better question to ask would be, "What if George Zimmerman had open carried?" The whole point if "open" carry is that people can see the weapon and this will affect most people's behavior.

Fair enough. If Trayvon Martin had an open carry weapon, would Zimmerman have decided not to follow him? How would the knowledge that Martin also had a gun affected his behavior?

Just to keep it on topic, we haven't yet had a high profile incident where both people were carrying weapons and each stood their ground, so open carry advocates have yet to come out on that issue. Actually, we've had plenty of them, but they are are called gunfights, not stand your ground.
 
A better question to ask would be, "What if George Zimmerman had open carried?" The whole point if "open" carry is that people can see the weapon and this will affect most people's behavior.

Fair enough. If Trayvon Martin had an open carry weapon, would Zimmerman have decided not to follow him? How would the knowledge that Martin also had a gun affected his behavior?

Just to keep it on topic, we haven't yet had a high profile incident where both people were carrying weapons and each stood their ground, so open carry advocates have yet to come out on that issue. Actually, we've had plenty of them, but they are are called gunfights, not stand your ground.

If they both were open carrying I think they both would have avoided confrontation. Or gunfight.
 
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