masterpeastheater
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Specifically, is the putsch(Trump, Brexit, etc.) being driven by impending resource scarcity and or climate change? I’ll spare my thoughts on why/ how and wait for yours, I wonder if I’m crazy for thinking this.
Specifically, is the putsch(Trump, Brexit, etc.) being driven by impending resource scarcity and or climate change? I’ll spare my thoughts on why/ how and wait for yours, I wonder if I’m crazy for thinking this.
This is a bit new. Fascism in Europe came about the Great Depression. How often do plagues like this appear during relatively peaceful periods? A lot of people are angry over almost nothing at all.Lots of things are contributing. But it's nothing new. Society is victim to cyclic fashions in political attitudes, just as it is victim to cyclic fashions in skirt length and trouser bottom widths.
Good times lead to bad times that lead to good times.
One of the few constants is that people always love them a good conspiracy theory.
Specifically, is the putsch(Trump, Brexit, etc.) being driven by impending resource scarcity and or climate change? I’ll spare my thoughts on why/ how and wait for yours, I wonder if I’m crazy for thinking this.
Specifically, is the putsch(Trump, Brexit, etc.) being driven by impending resource scarcity and or climate change? I’ll spare my thoughts on why/ how and wait for yours, I wonder if I’m crazy for thinking this.
Specifically, is the putsch(Trump, Brexit, etc.) being driven by impending resource scarcity and or climate change? I’ll spare my thoughts on why/ how and wait for yours, I wonder if I’m crazy for thinking this.
First off, I wouldn't call Trump's election or Brexit a violent overthrow of a government. Both Trump and Brexit won their elections in their countries. And there is no way that far right wingers are motivated by climate change!! No change in a million years. Most of them don't believe in science, let alone climate change. I think that it's more a pushback against modernism. They are afraid of immigrants, afraid of trade, afraid of change, afraid of Jihadism, and etc. The world is flattening. They are afraid and they vote. I'm sorry to say but if younger urban people won't vote, they will suffer. Brexit will cost millions of good jobs in England...
Specifically, is the putsch(Trump, Brexit, etc.) being driven by impending resource scarcity and or climate change?
Specifically, is the putsch(Trump, Brexit, etc.) being driven by impending resource scarcity and or climate change? I’ll spare my thoughts on why/ how and wait for yours, I wonder if I’m crazy for thinking this.
First off, I wouldn't call Trump's election or Brexit a violent overthrow of a government. Both Trump and Brexit won their elections in their countries. And there is no way that far right wingers are motivated by climate change!! No change in a million years. Most of them don't believe in science, let alone climate change. I think that it's more a pushback against modernism. They are afraid of immigrants, afraid of trade, afraid of change, afraid of Jihadism, and etc. The world is flattening. They are afraid and they vote. I'm sorry to say but if younger urban people won't vote, they will suffer. Brexit will cost millions of good jobs in England...
First, I have to quibble about Trump winning.
I think an interesting question is over the past 20 years how much has each the right and the left oberal changed and in what ways. I find myself shifting away from what is now being called the left despite holding the same positions for the most part then as now.
If you find yourself disagreeing with increasingly illiberal elements of the left, then that is one thing. But if you find yourself thinking that the current Democrats are not much better then the current GOP, then you either never were close to being liberal or have changed drastically. The Dems are pretty close to what they were 30 years ago, while the GOP has shifted as far to the right as possible without actually wearing swastikas. In fact, many of those illiberal leftists are the one's not voting Democrat because it has failed to follow the radical left down the rabbit hole of left-wing authoritarianism, marxism, and anti/pseudo-intellectualism. Meanwhile the GOP has not merely followed but helped lead the right further down the authoritarian, anti-intellectual, religious racism that has always tainted conservative ideology.
Read The Authoritarians by Bob Altemeyer. It's about research, not opinions. Free ebook, link is in my signature.
Read The Authoritarians by Bob Altemeyer. It's about research, not opinions. Free ebook, link is in my signature.
I worked with Bruce Hunsberger at Laurier (Yes, the same Laurier that a long time afterwards had the infamous Lindsay Shepherd incident), in collaboration with Bob Altemeyer. Bruce was my undergraduate thesis advisor. I am very familiar with Altemeyer's work. I helped run some of the research he has quoted. Authoritarianism scared me then from the right, and it now also scares me from the left. It isn't exclusively right wing.