Whatever you do: Don't call her Tootz!

[Toni]

Yes, I've been interested in this also. It's also become sexist to call someone actress, stewardess, mam, and etc. But "sir" is great. Even when addressing a women. This is certainly a newer trend...

Yeah, the male case definitely should always be the default choice.

Why is that? I live in a house with three very strong willed teenager girls. They don't put up with a lot of crap from boys. I'll ask them what they think. But I don't think that they'd agree that the male choice should dominate.

Sorry: I forgot to use my sarcasm font.

Historically, the (white) male case has been taken as the norm, in terms of medical science where many of the test subjects were simply medical students who were almost exclusively white males. Linguistically, the male case was the default case. Probably many other examples, but I'm off to bed so...

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Of course you agree with Ron. No surprise there.

ha ha... Just because I'm a liberal, doesn't mean I have to be the conservative caricature of a liberal.

Is that what you think you are?

 

[DrZoidberg]

ha ha... Just because I'm a liberal, doesn't mean I have to be the conservative caricature of a liberal.

Is that what you think you are?

It's just this strong trend of intolerance of dissent that has infected the left. It's a poison. The left is rapidly becoming increasingly authoritarian. Don't like it.

Yes, I am because I think of myself as such. That's what having an identity means.

 

[Toni]

ha ha... Just because I'm a liberal, doesn't mean I have to be the conservative caricature of a liberal.

Is that what you think you are?

It's just this strong trend of intolerance of dissent that has infected the left. It's a poison. The left is rapidly becoming increasingly authoritarian. Don't like it.

Yes, I am because I think of myself as such. That's what having an identity means.

I'm not sure that thinking of yourself as being something means that you are that.

For instance, I can tell myself all day long that I am tall or an excellent singer, but it would not take more than a very brief observation to disprove my identity as a tall person or a good singer.

 

[RVonse]

What I'd like to know is when it became sexist to call somebody miss? This is news to me.

I think it all started around the late 70's or early 80's when Gloria Stienem began her feminine crusades. They felt it was unfair people could tell whether woman were available for marriage by their given title (Miss vs Mrs). Which they determined unfair men had no such distinction (Mr could mean married or single). So that is why the feminist's came up with the Ms title which would be equivalent to Mr. and help make the woman be more like guys.

But they didn't stop there. In order to make sure their new word Ms would be used, they had to also make sure the old words would never be used (Miss/Mrs). So they officially made Miss and Mrs obscene titles for feminist women.

Apparently it is not that much an honor for a woman to be called a Mrs as much as a Phd these days. IMO it is just the opposite. I much more respect a successfully married woman with well developed children than a woman who has sat 8 years in a classroom. But thats just my humble opinion.

 

[DrZoidberg]

It's just this strong trend of intolerance of dissent that has infected the left. It's a poison. The left is rapidly becoming increasingly authoritarian. Don't like it.

Yes, I am because I think of myself as such. That's what having an identity means.

I'm not sure that thinking of yourself as being something means that you are that.

For instance, I can tell myself all day long that I am tall or an excellent singer, but it would not take more than a very brief observation to disprove my identity as a tall person or a good singer.

In my mind being a liberal only means that I'm tolerant and accepting of differences. The only thing a liberal should be intolerant of is intolerance.

It's a pretty simple concept. Or should be simple.

Now with all the identity politics and virtue signalling competition and the extreme intolerance of people saying anything that could potentially be interpreted as offensive, trigger warnings etc... It's a blizzar soup of irrelevances which have nothing to do with liberalism IMHO.

The price we pay for freedom is having to put up with people being different. It should be something we embrace. The encouragement of other people seizing their freedoms is being increasingly frowned upon by the left.

The best evidence that something has gone horribly wrong in the left is that conservatives are more supportive of free speech and free expression than the supposed liberals. That's perpetual opposite Tuesday the whole week long.

Anyhoo... That's why I call myself a liberal.

 

[DrZoidberg]

Here's a good test to see if you're a genuine liberal. If you're easily offended you've failed to understand what liberalism is. As is doing your thing and worrying if you offend others. If you care a lot about protecting the feelings of others, you are also not a liberal. Putting up with, and expecting, being offended is a part of the liberal tolerance. As is feeling empowered to exercise your right to fee expression. Anybody who ever gets offended should get over themselves. Those few times in my life where I have become genuinely offended, the problem was never the other person. All of those moments the problem was always me. I had far too high expectations of other people. When I was younger this way of thinking was encouraged by the community around me. Now, it seems completely gone. Young people today seem to be encouraged by their elders to stay easily offended children into adulthood. It's not a healthy place to be mentally.

Do you think gay Pride would have taken off if they gave a rats ass about not offending people? How about gays walking down the street holding hands in Nigeria? They offend the crap out of everybody, including the law. Should they care about not offending anybody? Do you think that will make the world a better place?