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Whatever you do: Don't call her Tootz!

 
 
 
In official settings you have to call her a doctor. And official settings include late night shows.
I have seen PhDs who cared enough about that to have Mr. changed to Dr. on credit cards. I suspect it's more common in soft sciences like Psychology.
Maybe she had a bad day? I heard Serena Williams had a bad day recently too.
I once pulled my title when some electronics shop clerk tried to refuse to accept return of defective crap and gave me a lecture in electronics.
 
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barbos said:
I once pulled my title when some electronics shop clerk tried to refuse to accept return of defective crap and gave me a lecture in electronics.
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It really depends what your title is, right? I mean if you are an electrical engineer, then this makes sense in an electronics store. Not so much if a medical doctor did that. One nice thing about being a lawyer, is you can pull your title whenever somebody tries to scam you and they quit it pretty fast lol. I gave my mom my old law school t-shirt and sweater and she still enjoys wearing them when doing things like getting her car repaired at an auto mechanic etc. I don't know if it helps, but she thinks it does. One nice place to pull your title as medical doctor (not on a flight!) is at a police stop. Whenever my sister gets pulled over for speeding, she tells the cop she is an emergency room doctor (true) and is on her way to the hospital (often false). Sometimes they insist on giving her a police escort to get there fast, which means she actually has to go there lol. The hospital staff wave her in so the cop is convinced, but then she's there at work and gets ambushed with patients on her day off. :p
 
Dr. Phil?

A PHD doesn't mean what it used to, PHDs are churned out by the thousands. Find a school that will take you, put in the class time, write a thesis.

Someone in a public space on an jet who gets upset when a service worker doesn't call her doctor is not someone I would respect. Authority by credentials.

An MD who went through a residency went through a grueling selective ordeal. IMO worthy of respect by title for that and the responsibility they carry for people's live.

For me it depends on the person and context. A PHD from a Christian bible school is not getting any acknowledgement from me. A PHD who mastered particle physics actively involved in research I would respect the title.
 
Outside of a job setting does anyone owe anyone who has a PhD anything? If a Phd comes over to my house and acts rude and disrespectful I can kick him or her out of my house like I could the high school drop out. If I disagreed with him/her on some issue and went and did more research reading a hundred books (which I have done) and a journal articles (not so much here) and found he or she was in fact wrong do I still automatically have to defer to that person because they have a doctorate? No.

I got into an argument twice with two Phd's on a matter of history. One was when a fellow student asked about Marx. I asked which Marx are you talking about, Karl or the chancellor by that name. We had just left a class on early twentieth century Germany and I thought he might have been asking about Chancellor Marx. The PhD was sitting at out table during a break--he was taking some graduate class to get another degree. The doctor said Karl Marx was never chancellor of Germany and I replied I knew he wasn't but there was a Marx that was. The PhD replied that he thought I was wrong. I went and double checked and yes there was a Chancellor Marx in Germany during the 20's before Hitler took power. After the war he worked in the West German government.

I was talking to another PhD while I was at church and he was railing against abortion and how the Marxists were responsible for it. I asked him how he came to that conclusion. He said Karl Marx and the Communists were all for abortion. I told him that I did not know what Marx thought but August Bebel, his right hand man, was against it. I told him to go look up Socialism and Women by Bebel and he would see Bebel believed both the abortionist and woman having an abortion should do prison time.

I read so many books and know so much about shit that isn't really important. Maybe I should spend the money and go get a PhD too.

I am sorry. I am not trying to be mean to people fortunate to have higher learning. I respect it and them, I really do. It is just so funny when these people get something wrong when they should be the ones to know better or act like the woman on that plane.
 
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A PHD doesn't mean what it used to, PHDs are churned out by the thousands. Find a school that will take you, put in the class time, write a thesis.
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I remember a few years back there was the possibility thousands of PhD's in Germany over several years may have gotten their degrees through bribery. How did that turn out? Supposedly the PhD students paid an organization that helped them develop skills that would help them get their doctorate. What happened was this organization was paying the professors or universities off to let the students pass. It has been years and I never heard what happened.
 
Jolly_Penguin said:
barbos said:
I once pulled my title when some electronics shop clerk tried to refuse to accept return of defective crap and gave me a lecture in electronics.
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It really depends what your title is, right? I mean if you are an electrical engineer, then this makes sense in an electronics store.
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Well, I informed him that I have PhD in physics and know way more than him about how TV works. He was not really impressed but gave up shortly after that. He was rude and and annoying (I was too eventually). I had a right to return it even if it was not broken which he tried to deny, I guess I should have posed as a lawyer :)
Not so much if a medical doctor did that. One nice thing about being a lawyer, is you can pull your title whenever somebody tries to scam you and they quit it pretty fast lol. I gave my mom my old law school t-shirt and sweater and she still enjoys wearing them when doing things like getting her car repaired at an auto mechanic etc. I don't know if it helps, but she thinks it does. One nice place to pull your title as medical doctor (not on a flight!) is at a police stop. Whenever my sister gets pulled over for speeding, she tells the cop she is an emergency room doctor (true) and is on her way to the hospital (often false). Sometimes they insist on giving her a police escort to get there fast, which means she actually has to go there lol. The hospital staff wave her in so the cop is convinced, but then she's there at work and gets ambushed with patients on her day off. :p
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Medical doctors can get away with a murder "Sir, why do you have a dead body on the back? It's not dead yet, I am a doctor. Oh, OK " :)
 
BH said:
A PHD doesn't mean what it used to, PHDs are churned out by the thousands. Find a school that will take you, put in the class time, write a thesis.
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I remember a few years back there was the possibility thousands of PhD's in Germany over several years may have gotten their degrees through bribery. How did that turn out? Supposedly the PhD students paid an organization that helped them develop skills that would help them get their doctorate. What happened was this organization was paying the professors or universities off to let the students pass. It has been years and I never heard what happened.
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In Europe PhD requirements are quite a bit lower than in US. You have 2 years usually to complete it. In US it's 4 years minimum, usually 5-6 and more.

Anyway, it's stupid to expect flight attendant to memorize random person title, they have other things to do. But if she went to be interviewed on TV or something then she would have had a right to expect "doctor" tittle.
 
"Tootz"?

That reminds me of birther Orly Taitz. Fortunately, hardly any of her critics made certain insulting puns on her last name.

I searched in Google, Bing, and Yahoo. Only Google and Bing gave numbers of hits, and Bing and Yahoo assumed that "Titz" and "Tootz" are typos for "Taitz". Google, however, stated: Did you mean: "Orly Taitz"
Orly Taitz: 111,000 38,100
Orly Titz: 118
Orly Tootz: 0
 
lpetrich said:
"Tootz"?

That reminds me of birther Orly Taitz. Fortunately, hardly any of her critics made certain insulting puns on her last name.

I searched in Google, Bing, and Yahoo. Only Google and Bing gave numbers of hits, and Bing and Yahoo assumed that "Titz" and "Tootz" are typos for "Taitz". Google, however, stated: Did you mean: "Orly Taitz"
Orly Taitz: 111,000 38,100
Orly Titz: 118
Orly Tootz: 0
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Sorry, I was just trying to be funny! If she got offended at not being called Dr., she probably wouldn't have gone off the deep end if called Tootz!
 
Harry Bosch said:
A PHd who was traveling on Qantas was offended when an attendant called her "miss" rather than Doctor (which was her title on her boarding ticket).

https://www.independent.co.uk/trave...-twitter-trolls-everyday-sexism-a8527096.html

I thought the story was crazy. Is it really "sexist" to not call a woman doctor Doctor? I have several medical doctor friends who never see the need to ask people to call them doctor. I just don't think that the title is necessary in public. She has 8 years in a university. Well, I have 6 years. Can I be called doctor light? Who cares?

I will say that calling a medical doctor in public alerts everyone that a doctor is in the area in case of an emergency. I was on a flight once with my wife when we overheard a passenger being addressed as doctor. This doctor fell asleep. A medical issue arose with another passenger. My wife immediately woke the doctor to alert her of the situation.

Anyway, what think you?
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What I'd like to know is when it became sexist to call somebody miss? This is news to me.
 
Toni said:
So, your position is that anyone who behaves differently than you would or your wife or your friends is a status seeking twit? Am I understanding that correctly?

It's an interesting position for a Ph.D. who one would normally assume to be well educated, tolerant of and able to understand other POV.

That's the case for most of the Ph.D.s I know.
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I agree with Ron. Who the hell puts their title on a plane ticket, anyway? Why would anybody do that? How desperate for attention do you need to be for attention to bother with that bullshit.

I've always assumed that the title box on ticket ordering system is for extremely old people, who still care about this shit, who are about to die. I guess I was wrong.
 
DrZoidberg said:
Harry Bosch said:
A PHd who was traveling on Qantas was offended when an attendant called her "miss" rather than Doctor (which was her title on her boarding ticket).

https://www.independent.co.uk/trave...-twitter-trolls-everyday-sexism-a8527096.html

I thought the story was crazy. Is it really "sexist" to not call a woman doctor Doctor? I have several medical doctor friends who never see the need to ask people to call them doctor. I just don't think that the title is necessary in public. She has 8 years in a university. Well, I have 6 years. Can I be called doctor light? Who cares?

I will say that calling a medical doctor in public alerts everyone that a doctor is in the area in case of an emergency. I was on a flight once with my wife when we overheard a passenger being addressed as doctor. This doctor fell asleep. A medical issue arose with another passenger. My wife immediately woke the doctor to alert her of the situation.

Anyway, what think you?
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What I'd like to know is when it became sexist to call somebody miss? This is news to me.
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Yes, I've been interested in this also. It's also become sexist to call someone actress, stewardess, mam, and etc. But "sir" is great. Even when addressing a women. This is certainly a newer trend...
 
There's pretty much no acceptable term to use these days. I just call them "Humans who most likely have a vagina, but not always".
 
Harry Bosch said:
DrZoidberg said:
Harry Bosch said:
A PHd who was traveling on Qantas was offended when an attendant called her "miss" rather than Doctor (which was her title on her boarding ticket).

https://www.independent.co.uk/trave...-twitter-trolls-everyday-sexism-a8527096.html

I thought the story was crazy. Is it really "sexist" to not call a woman doctor Doctor? I have several medical doctor friends who never see the need to ask people to call them doctor. I just don't think that the title is necessary in public. She has 8 years in a university. Well, I have 6 years. Can I be called doctor light? Who cares?

I will say that calling a medical doctor in public alerts everyone that a doctor is in the area in case of an emergency. I was on a flight once with my wife when we overheard a passenger being addressed as doctor. This doctor fell asleep. A medical issue arose with another passenger. My wife immediately woke the doctor to alert her of the situation.

Anyway, what think you?
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What I'd like to know is when it became sexist to call somebody miss? This is news to me.
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Yes, I've been interested in this also. It's also become sexist to call someone actress, stewardess, mam, and etc. But "sir" is great. Even when addressing a women. This is certainly a newer trend...
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Yeah, the male case definitely should always be the default choice.

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DrZoidberg said:
Toni said:
So, your position is that anyone who behaves differently than you would or your wife or your friends is a status seeking twit? Am I understanding that correctly?

It's an interesting position for a Ph.D. who one would normally assume to be well educated, tolerant of and able to understand other POV.

That's the case for most of the Ph.D.s I know.
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I agree with Ron. Who the hell puts their title on a plane ticket, anyway? Why would anybody do that? How desperate for attention do you need to be for attention to bother with that bullshit.

I've always assumed that the title box on ticket ordering system is for extremely old people, who still care about this shit, who are about to die. I guess I was wrong.
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Of course you agree with Ron. No surprise there.
 
Why the fuck is this "news" ? Journalism is dead. It seems most "journalists" monitor Twitter, Facebook and other social media outlets for a slightly controversial quip and then bang out a couple of paragraphs about it in their paper and wait for the comments section to fill up, job done. Pure and utter clickbait bullshit.
 
Toni said:
Harry Bosch said:
Yes, I've been interested in this also. It's also become sexist to call someone actress, stewardess, mam, and etc. But "sir" is great. Even when addressing a women. This is certainly a newer trend...
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Yeah, the male case definitely should always be the default choice.
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Why is that? I live in a house with three very strong willed teenager girls. They don't put up with a lot of crap from boys. I'll ask them what they think. But I don't think that they'd agree that the male choice should dominate.
 
DBT said:
Precious.
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I'm not sure if I get your comment. I suspect that it's sarcastic. If so, this tells me that you don't have as much experience with teenager girls today. They are more empowered than ever and don't take a lot of bullshit from boys.
 
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