What's that Smell?

[AthenaAwakened]

http://www.ibtimes.com/oregon-marij...mell-could-trigger-500-fine-pendleton-1932925

The municipal authorities have labeled the smell of marijuana a nuisance and plan to fine residents should the scent travel to a neighbor's property, KNDO of Yakima, Washington, reported Wednesday. Pendleton reworked its nuisance ordinance -- which deals with problems like loud music or barking dogs -- to include marijuana smell, the station reported. The resulting fine could cost marijuana smokers up to $500.

http://www.opb.org/news/blog/newsbl...tain-fart-smells-after-council-bans-pot-odor/

With the passage of an amendment to Pendleton city code to contain the smell of marijuana, one man saw a chance to rein in lingering bodily odors as well.

“While farting may be legal in Oregon, many (including myself) are offended by the flatulent stench,” said Peter Walters’ letter to the editor in the East Oregonian. He goes on to complain that businesses and homeowners can’t seem to contain farts, and calls on the city to address the problem.

Of course, he can’t be serious. Walters said he got the idea for the letter when he and his roommate were talking about the amendment, which could carry up to a $500 fine if someone complains about a marijuana odor coming from a person’s property.

 

[Derec]

Marijuana does smell vile so I can understand the ordinance. Why not invest in a good vaporizer?

 

[Bronzeage]

An argument in favor of brownies.

 

[J842P]

Marijuana does smell vile so I can understand the ordinance. Why not invest in a good vaporizer?

Vaporized marijuana still smells like marijuana.

 

[ronburgundy]

This ordinance is even less reasonable and justified as one that makes it illegal to plant flowers or flowering trees with odors that your neighbors can smell, or making it illegal to grill outdoors or have a firepit.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Marijuana does smell vile so I can understand the ordinance. Why not invest in a good vaporizer?

Yup, I always used to take the long way around rather than go past the smokers across from the high school. It would always make me somewhat nauseous to go past them. It was mixed tobacco and pot smoke.

While I'm in favor of legalization that doesn't mean I support the right to stink the world up with the smoke. Do what drugs you want--in private or with like-minded people, not where you are going to bother me by doing so.

 

[Nice Squirrel]

Marijuana does smell vile so I can understand the ordinance. Why not invest in a good vaporizer?

Don't move to the plains or anyplace sage grows. I cannot tell the difference with the exception of the heavy patchouli stench in attempts to cover it up.

And the tenants who are fined $500 can always claim religious use of sage to purge their apartments.

 

[Malintent]

A neighbor would have to file a complaint. You would know which of your neighbors filed the complaint. knock on their door and ask them if they really want to get into this with you.. cause you think they stink pretty bad too... and was that an abandoned baby crying all hours of the night that I heard.. wanna get into the protective services game? Whatcha cooking? is that legal? did you get a CO for that fence? you sure it was filed properly? How about we mind our respective business?

 

[Derec]

Vaporized marijuana still smells like marijuana.

Yeah, but intensity of the smell is much lower, which means it's much less likely to bother the neighbors. And if that fails too, what Bronzeage wrote. Although: does baking them involve intense smell as well?

 

[ronburgundy]

Marijuana does smell vile so I can understand the ordinance. Why not invest in a good vaporizer?

Yup, I always used to take the long way around rather than go past the smokers across from the high school. It would always make me somewhat nauseous to go past them. It was mixed tobacco and pot smoke.

While I'm in favor of legalization that doesn't mean I support the right to stink the world up with the smoke. Do what drugs you want--in private or with like-minded people, not where you are going to bother me by doing so.

On what legal basis should pot smell be treated any different than perfume (far more vile IMO), the smell of BBQ, curry, a fireplace, etc.?

A neighbor smoking pot gives you a brief exposure to an odor no more intense than odor from these things that last as long or often many times longer.

Unless its going to be illegal for people to grill out or use their fireplace, cook strong smelling foods, or simply plant flowers, then it cannot be illegal for your neighbors to occassionally smell your weed.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Yup, I always used to take the long way around rather than go past the smokers across from the high school. It would always make me somewhat nauseous to go past them. It was mixed tobacco and pot smoke.

While I'm in favor of legalization that doesn't mean I support the right to stink the world up with the smoke. Do what drugs you want--in private or with like-minded people, not where you are going to bother me by doing so.

On what legal basis should pot smell be treated any different than perfume (far more vile IMO), the smell of BBQ, curry, a fireplace, etc.?

A neighbor smoking pot gives you a brief exposure to an odor no more intense than odor from these things that last as long or often many times longer.

Unless its going to be illegal for people to grill out or use their fireplace, cook strong smelling foods, or simply plant flowers, then it cannot be illegal for your neighbors to occassionally smell your weed.

I don't think people have the right to stink up the neighborhood regardless of the nature of the stink.

I doubt one pot smoker would be an issue. A bunch of pot-heads, though, are another matter.

 

[AthenaAwakened]

On what legal basis should pot smell be treated any different than perfume (far more vile IMO), the smell of BBQ, curry, a fireplace, etc.?

A neighbor smoking pot gives you a brief exposure to an odor no more intense than odor from these things that last as long or often many times longer.

Unless its going to be illegal for people to grill out or use their fireplace, cook strong smelling foods, or simply plant flowers, then it cannot be illegal for your neighbors to occassionally smell your weed.

I don't think people have the right to stink up the neighborhood regardless of the nature of the stink.

And you base this limitation of rights on what?

I doubt one pot smoker would be an issue. A bunch of pot-heads, though, are another matter.

So what is your beef? What real world scenario do you find that frightens you?

 

[Trausti]

I don't think people have the right to stink up the neighborhood regardless of the nature of the stink.

And you base this limitation of rights on what?

I doubt one pot smoker would be an issue. A bunch of pot-heads, though, are another matter.

So what is your beef? What real world scenario do you find that frightens you?

In live in WA, which has decriminalized pot. The folks in the unit below began having pot parties on their patio. The smoke seeped up and invaded other units, especially mine. Closing the windows didn't help. I could not avoid the constant stench and it gave me headaches. I didn't want to be "that guy," but when it appeared this was not a one off event but a nightly ritual, I informed management and they sent out a blanket reminder that the rules prohibited pot use in the building. It's wonderful to be self-righteous about limiting other rights to do what they want, until it happens to you. It really sucks. If your neighbor took to raising hogs and let the pleasant smell of manure piles carrying over into your house, would you be okay with it?

 

[arkirk]

An argument in favor of brownies.

You want to get 'em in trouble for using their oven?

 

[Nice Squirrel]

And you base this limitation of rights on what?

I doubt one pot smoker would be an issue. A bunch of pot-heads, though, are another matter.

So what is your beef? What real world scenario do you find that frightens you?

In live in WA, which has decriminalized pot. The folks in the unit below began having pot parties on their patio. The smoke seeped up and invaded other units, especially mine. Closing the windows didn't help. I could not avoid the constant stench and it gave me headaches. I didn't want to be "that guy," but when it appeared this was not a one off event but a nightly ritual, I informed management and they sent out a blanket reminder that the rules prohibited pot use in the building. It's wonderful to be self-righteous about limiting other rights to do what they want, until it happens to you. It really sucks. If your neighbor took to raising hogs and let the pleasant smell of manure piles carrying over into your house, would you be okay with it?

This is why Minnesota continues the ban on smoking pot.

 

[ksen]

Marijuana does smell vile so I can understand the ordinance. Why not invest in a good vaporizer?

Marijuana does smell vile so I can understand the ordinance. Why not invest in a good vaporizer?

Yup, I always used to take the long way around rather than go past the smokers across from the high school. It would always make me somewhat nauseous to go past them. It was mixed tobacco and pot smoke.

While I'm in favor of legalization that doesn't mean I support the right to stink the world up with the smoke. Do what drugs you want--in private or with like-minded people, not where you are going to bother me by doing so.

On what legal basis should pot smell be treated any different than perfume (far more vile IMO), the smell of BBQ, curry, a fireplace, etc.?

A neighbor smoking pot gives you a brief exposure to an odor no more intense than odor from these things that last as long or often many times longer.

Unless its going to be illegal for people to grill out or use their fireplace, cook strong smelling foods, or simply plant flowers, then it cannot be illegal for your neighbors to occassionally smell your weed.

I don't think people have the right to stink up the neighborhood regardless of the nature of the stink.

I doubt one pot smoker would be an issue. A bunch of pot-heads, though, are another matter.

supporters of small government ^^

 

[Underseer]

Marijuana does smell vile so I can understand the ordinance. Why not invest in a good vaporizer?

Yes, the government should regulate smells, because as a rightist, you believe in Small Government^TM!

 

[untermensche]

People have the right to not be exposed to marijuana.

Unfortunately the people who complain the most are the people who would benefit most from the drug.

Uptight jerks.

Marijuana does wonders in mellowing them out.

If only the whole world consumed it. There would be a lot less violence and a lot more laughter.

 

[Trausti]

I'd add that you could sue your neighbor if his pot cloud rained on your property. It's considered a trespass. Usually involves animal stink and dung, but the analogy would be easy to make. Don't need an ordinance.

 

[AthenaAwakened]

And you base this limitation of rights on what?

I doubt one pot smoker would be an issue. A bunch of pot-heads, though, are another matter.

So what is your beef? What real world scenario do you find that frightens you?

In live in WA, which has decriminalized pot. The folks in the unit below began having pot parties on their patio. The smoke seeped up and invaded other units, especially mine. Closing the windows didn't help. I could not avoid the constant stench and it gave me headaches. I didn't want to be "that guy," but when it appeared this was not a one off event but a nightly ritual, I informed management and they sent out a blanket reminder that the rules prohibited pot use in the building. It's wonderful to be self-righteous about limiting other rights to do what they want, until it happens to you. It really sucks. If your neighbor took to raising hogs and let the pleasant smell of manure piles carrying over into your house, would you be okay with it?

On what legal precedent you to base the right to limit the rights of others to smoke pot?

As for hogs, I lived in rural Southeastern North Carolina for many years. I have smelled hog shit, cow shit, chicken shit, turkey shit, and horse shit. Not to mention the paper mill in Riegelwood, the turkey plucking place outside of Wallace, the chicken plucking place outside of Rose Hill, and the hog gutting place in Clinton.

Did I have the legal right to demand the shutting down of commerce, putting thousands of people out of work and wrecking the local economy because the air smelled bad?