Koyaanisqatsi
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RVonse said:Im actually a fan boy of the constitution.... It should not be the business of the government to collect information on everyone. And the constitution secures these rights of its citizens.
Priceless.
RVonse said:Im actually a fan boy of the constitution.... It should not be the business of the government to collect information on everyone. And the constitution secures these rights of its citizens.
RVonse said:Im actually a fan boy of the constitution.... It should not be the business of the government to collect information on everyone. And the constitution secures these rights of its citizens.
Priceless.
The Constitution includes explicit protections against undue search and seizure... that Mexican Americans are not privvy to. RVonse doesn't give much of a care about that... just the invasions of their own privacy.RVonse said:Im actually a fan boy of the constitution.... It should not be the business of the government to collect information on everyone. And the constitution secures these rights of its citizens.
Priceless.
Aside from the census (good point), I don't think it is any of your government's business surverying ordinary civilians against their will and without their knowledge, under any handwaving pretense of security. Why do laugh at this? Do you think it's ok?
The Constitution includes explicit protections against undue search and seizure... that Mexican Americans are not privvy to. RVonse doesn't give much of a care about that... just the invasions of their own privacy.Aside from the census (good point), I don't think it is any of your government's business surverying ordinary civilians against their will and without their knowledge, under any handwaving pretense of security. Why do laugh at this? Do you think it's ok?
Sure, it just makes him a self-interested hypocrite.The Constitution includes explicit protections against undue search and seizure... that Mexican Americans are not privvy to. RVonse doesn't give much of a care about that... just the invasions of their own privacy.Aside from the census (good point), I don't think it is any of your government's business surverying ordinary civilians against their will and without their knowledge, under any handwaving pretense of security. Why do laugh at this? Do you think it's ok?
Such an inconsistency, if true, wouldn't invalidate his point here.
I'm not so naive as to believe that government agencies and police are thoroughly benign and that powers are not abused, but by and large I'm fine with the principle of surveillance and collecting data, provided sufficient checks and balances are in place and the powers reasonable and justified.
I admit I don't know the Patriot Act in detail though.
Are the government actually collecting surveillance information on everyone? I thought only google and facebook did that?
Sure, it just makes him a self-interested hypocrite.Such an inconsistency, if true, wouldn't invalidate his point here.
I'm not so naive as to believe that government agencies and police are thoroughly benign and that powers are not abused, but by and large I'm fine with the principle of surveillance and collecting data, provided sufficient checks and balances are in place and the powers reasonable and justified.
I admit I don't know the Patriot Act in detail though.
Are the government actually collecting surveillance information on everyone? I thought only google and facebook did that?
It enables them to, and it does away with those checks and balances on abuses of power you speak of.
In principle, all authorities have to be accountable, in the end.
I'm proud of my dick pics and want as many people as possible to see them. Plus, if someone is looking at my dick without me knowing about it, that just makes it hotter.
I don't think it is any of your government's business surverying ordinary civilians against their will and without their knowledge
Your assigned strawman is itself a strawman. That's pretty meta.
Your assigned strawman is itself a strawman. That's pretty meta.
You keep trying this self-defeating stupidity. Why?
So you have zero problems with a cop driving his patrol car through your neighborhood looking for suspicious activity that may need to be investigated further, but when he or she does the exact same thing in cyber space, suddenly it's libtard armageddon in spite of the fact that you willingly gave your permission for every corporation in the world to chart your every "like" and "dislike" every nano-second.
Your assigned strawman is itself a strawman. That's pretty meta.
You keep trying this self-defeating stupidity. Why?
Also a strawman. Is this your strawman class? Big brother is watching. Will there be a test?
RVonse said:Im actually a fan boy of the constitution.... It should not be the business of the government to collect information on everyone. And the constitution secures these rights of its citizens.
Priceless.
Aside from the census (good point), I don't think it is any of your government's business surverying ordinary civilians against their will and without their knowledge, under any handwaving pretense of security. Why do laugh at this? Do you think it's ok?
Also a strawman. Is this your strawman class? Big brother is watching. Will there be a test?
One you failed already:
RVonse said:Im actually a fan boy of the constitution.... It should not be the business of the government to collect information on everyone. And the constitution secures these rights of its citizens.
Priceless.
Aside from the census (good point), I don't think it is any of your government's business surverying ordinary civilians against their will and without their knowledge, under any handwaving pretense of security. Why do laugh at this? Do you think it's ok?
One you failed already:
RVonse said:Im actually a fan boy of the constitution.... It should not be the business of the government to collect information on everyone. And the constitution secures these rights of its citizens.
Priceless.
Aside from the census (good point), I don't think it is any of your government's business surverying ordinary civilians against their will and without their knowledge, under any handwaving pretense of security. Why do laugh at this? Do you think it's ok?
If I fail for not thinking 1984 was a comedy, that's not a test I'd want to pass.
I don't particularly care what Constitutional Hypocritii think about the Constitution as their interest in it is merely self-interested.Sure, it just makes him a self-interested hypocrite.Such an inconsistency, if true, wouldn't invalidate his point here.
So what?
Wait, are you saying that speaking out a truth isn't relevant? You seemed to say otherwise elsewhere.That's not the topic. The topic is an important one and your diverting from it by attacking the messenger is classic adhom.