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Who is America: Baron-Cohen convinces Republican to attempt to bomb liberals

Hey, who say the episode where Cohen dressed up as Vladimir Putin and convinced Trump to go back to DC and ask his aides if the US should allow eastern Ukraine to have a secession vote or if we would allow former American diplomats to be interviewed by the Russians?

That was fucking hilarious!
 
I know what libertarian academics and economists say about immigration. Curious though the absence of threads here started by libertarians to oppose Trump when they have so many threads to attack other stuff they do not like such as SJWs and such.

Also, notice that neither libertarians or conservatives are decrying this person's willingness to cause the mass murder of liberal protesters?

I should start a thread about it immediately. Wait, there already is one.

Let's get back to talking about the propensity for mass murder here.

It is a conservoprogressive idea.
 
Let us know when you folks decide to start taking policy positions that differentiates you from Trump, Joe Arpaio, and Alex Jones. Or have you guys been shouting fron the roof tops in opposition to Trump/Sessions immigration policy and nobody has noticed?

You apparently haven't seen our position on immigration, even though I have stated it many times. It doesn't fit into your perception, so you blank it out and resume thinking it is the opposite of what it is.
 
Let us know when you folks decide to start taking policy positions that differentiates you from Trump, Joe Arpaio, and Alex Jones. Or have you guys been shouting fron the roof tops in opposition to Trump/Sessions immigration policy and nobody has noticed?

You apparently haven't seen our position on immigration, even though I have stated it many times. It doesn't fit into your perception, so you blank it out and resume thinking it is the opposite of what it is.

Frankly I seen you state the position a couple of times but I rarely see you defend it when it is being attacked by conservatives.
 
Let us know when you folks decide to start taking policy positions that differentiates you from Trump, Joe Arpaio, and Alex Jones. Or have you guys been shouting fron the roof tops in opposition to Trump/Sessions immigration policy and nobody has noticed?

You apparently haven't seen our position on immigration, even though I have stated it many times. It doesn't fit into your perception, so you blank it out and resume thinking it is the opposite of what it is.

Frankly I seen you state the position a couple of times but I rarely see you defend it when it is being attacked by conservatives.

The only full conservative on this board is Underseer and he is too busy pretending to be a progressive to attack my ideas on immigration.

Okay, there may be others but I haven't asked people "what is your label", I discuss particular positions. In the DACA thread, I was trying to push "change the damn law" as my position instead of "keep laws as written but carve out an exception". The only opposition I got on my actual position on immigration was "that's stupid", what am I supposed to say to that?
 
Hmmm. I'd think you would be a big participant in the Europe Submits Voluntarily thread, but no.
 
You were here when it started. I directly attacks a libertarian tenet. Yet you didn't defend it.
 
Glossing over the never-ending Underseer-Jason dance of unrequited love...

I'm curious if the results would be much different if SBC targeted liberals instead. I'm willing to be that he could find one or two democrats who'd be willing to push that button if they were convinced that it would stop Nazis or something similar.
 
Never mind that they pushed the button, I'm still trying to get over the fact that they believed there were diapers supplied by an under cover Lesbian, that could turn a baby into a transgendered person. Idiocracy has arrived and I don't see a way out.
 
Never mind that they pushed the button, I'm still trying to get over the fact that they believed there were diapers supplied by an under cover Lesbian, that could turn a baby into a transgendered person. Idiocracy has arrived and I don't see a way out.

The volume of stupidity believed by large numbers of people never ceases to amaze, does it? :(
 
I know what libertarian academics and economists say about immigration. Curious though the absence of threads here started by libertarians to oppose Trump when they have so many threads to attack other stuff they do not like such as SJWs and such.

Here is a libertarian website that I occasionally post to called Bleeding Heart Libertarians - Free Markets and Social Justice. Libertarianism is so ill-defined that you can probably find a libertarian who holds any belief that you could name and argues that it is a True Libertarian™ belief.

This makes it hard to generalize about libertarians, but one of the core beliefs shared by most is that the labor market should be a true market where wages are like the prices of commodities that go up and down with supply and demand, in this case, the supply of and the demand for labor. As a part of this belief, one of the factors that would reduce the otherwise strong bargaining position of the employers is that the workers could move to areas where the wages were higher. This includes across borders. Most conservative libertarians, therefore, support open borders, albeit most add the caveat that a nation can only open its borders after it has eliminated all forms of open welfare including Aid to Dependent Children, Social Security, Medicare, etc. so that people are immigrating to work and not to take advantage of the open welfare. (Open welfare is where the government provides cash to the recipients, versus putting them in a poorhouse or a debtors' prison.)

It would follow that most libertarians would oppose Trump's immigration policies, that this is an area where libertarians aren't aligned with conservatives. I haven't seen any real evidence of it here. However, I am seeing some pushback elsewhere from libertarians, but not especially on immigration. Here is a debate with both a libertarian capitulation to Trump on immigration and more typical traditional libertarian open borders view from Reason magazine, which I am sure that at any moment we will be told isn't a True Libertarian™ magazine.


In past, I have taken our libertarians here to task for just sniping at discussions with one line questions or statements and not telling what they believe, what positions they take and that they are willing to defend. I have come around to a much more benign understanding of libertarians when I finally realized that most have no real idea of what calling yourself a libertarian means. That most haven't read any fundamental libertarian literature beyond Atlas Shrugged or similar, the table of contents of Friedman's Capitalism and Freedom and the comic book version of Hayek's The Road to Serfdom.​
 
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