Who said politics in Russia is boring?

[barbos]

I just watched it, can't find that thing translated to english.


There is some english text associated with it here:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/grainy-bedroom-footage-shows-former-7674570
Not all info is accurate and some of the info was omitted.
Anyway, that guy who is former Russian Prime Minister is considered (by the West) an opposition to Putin, you can hear collective laughter from 150mil russians here.
Woman emigrated to UK as a child and then moved back to Russia 10 years ago, I just don't why?
Recordings were most likely taken by Pelevina herself but FSB get their hands on it and leaked to kremlin friendly TV station. Anyway, that couple "discuss" number of topics using pretty colorful language. Kasyanov admits being a thief just a smaller than russian oligarchs, then they discuss "unfavorably" other members of "oppositions".
They are pretty disgusting, and I am not talking about sex, I am talking about content of their talks.
Pelevina is supported financially by McCain's, fund and we all know McCain is a great judge of character
Also she says Clinton (Hillary) would take her if she does not get elected to Russian Parlament.
And she also mentions CIA, so, yeah, great work CIA!

 

[barbos]

No comments? none at all? I expected very little interest but not that little.
Where are these "democracy loving usual suspects" who like to bash Russia?

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Someone set a politician up with a woman. It happens everywhere.

 

[Harry Bosch]

Someone set a politician up with a woman. It happens everywhere.

Yea, but you're not suppose to say anything negative about Russia.

 

[barbos]

Someone set a politician up with a woman. It happens everywhere.

You did not pay attention to the story at all, did you?
That someone is most likely US/UK intelligence, not the evil Putin and his FSB. It's just FSB got their hands on the tape.
The guy comes out as total piece of shit, and so is that woman and they are both considered (by the West) to be opposition to Putin "regime". British paper article even calls him oppoition leader or something, he is nothing of the sort to anybody with a half-brain. He has been a prime minister during early Putin.
The fact that guy is a piece of shit is not new to anybody in Russia, what is new is that other people in the opposition camp which have been looking seemingly clean, are not really so, according to recorded discussion, specifically Yashin, young and spunky dude in the opposition circles. These two lovebirds implied that he (Yashin) would sell his seat. Now, fucking Blagoevich got to prison for that.
You want Russia to be more like US? well then some of these opposition leaders should go to prison too.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Someone set a politician up with a woman. It happens everywhere.

You did not pay attention to the story at all, did you?
That someone is most likely US/UK intelligence, not the evil Putin and his FSB. It's just FSB got their hands on the tape.
The guy comes out as total piece of shit, and so is that woman and they are both considered (by the West) to be opposition to Putin "regime". British paper article even calls him oppoition leader or something, he is nothing of the sort to anybody with a half-brain. He has been a prime minister during early Putin.
The fact that guy is a piece of shit is not new to anybody in Russia, what is new is that other people in the opposition camp which have been looking seemingly clean, are not really so, according to recorded discussion, specifically Yashin, young and spunky dude in the opposition circles. These two lovebirds implied that he (Yashin) would sell his seat. Now, fucking Blagoevich got to prison for that.
You want Russia to be more like US? well then some of these opposition leaders should go to prison too.

And why shouldn't we think it was done by the FSB?

 

[barbos]

You did not pay attention to the story at all, did you?
That someone is most likely US/UK intelligence, not the evil Putin and his FSB. It's just FSB got their hands on the tape.
The guy comes out as total piece of shit, and so is that woman and they are both considered (by the West) to be opposition to Putin "regime". British paper article even calls him oppoition leader or something, he is nothing of the sort to anybody with a half-brain. He has been a prime minister during early Putin.
The fact that guy is a piece of shit is not new to anybody in Russia, what is new is that other people in the opposition camp which have been looking seemingly clean, are not really so, according to recorded discussion, specifically Yashin, young and spunky dude in the opposition circles. These two lovebirds implied that he (Yashin) would sell his seat. Now, fucking Blagoevich got to prison for that.
You want Russia to be more like US? well then some of these opposition leaders should go to prison too.

And why shouldn't we think it was done by the FSB?

Because woman was caught using that camera-pen to record her own damn opposition colleagues.
And no, that was not a FSB setup, she was seen with that pen on old, prior to this videos . So yeah, bitch was sent by MI-6/CIA to watch after russian opposition critters.

 

[crispy]

I just watched it, can't find that thing translated to english.


There is some english text associated with it here:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/grainy-bedroom-footage-shows-former-7674570
Not all info is accurate and some of the info was omitted.
Anyway, that guy who is former Russian Prime Minister is considered (by the West) an opposition to Putin, you can hear collective laughter from 150mil russians here.
Woman emigrated to UK as a child and then moved back to Russia 10 years ago, I just don't why?
Recordings were most likely taken by Pelevina herself but FSB get their hands on it and leaked to kremlin friendly TV station. Anyway, that couple "discuss" number of topics using pretty colorful language. Kasyanov admits being a thief just a smaller than russian oligarchs, then they discuss "unfavorably" other members of "oppositions".
They are pretty disgusting, and I am not talking about sex, I am talking about content of their talks.
Pelevina is supported financially by McCain's, fund and we all know McCain is a great judge of character
Also she says Clinton (Hillary) would take her if she does not get elected to Russian Parlament.
And she also mentions CIA, so, yeah, great work CIA!

So this wiki article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikhail_Kasyanov) which suggests he indeed can be considered opposition is a fraud (probably by CIA)?

Where do you get that it was most likely her that filmed it? Could you also elaborate on FSB agenda on leaking the video to the media?

 

[barbos]

I just watched it, can't find that thing translated to english.


There is some english text associated with it here:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/grainy-bedroom-footage-shows-former-7674570
Not all info is accurate and some of the info was omitted.
Anyway, that guy who is former Russian Prime Minister is considered (by the West) an opposition to Putin, you can hear collective laughter from 150mil russians here.
Woman emigrated to UK as a child and then moved back to Russia 10 years ago, I just don't why?
Recordings were most likely taken by Pelevina herself but FSB get their hands on it and leaked to kremlin friendly TV station. Anyway, that couple "discuss" number of topics using pretty colorful language. Kasyanov admits being a thief just a smaller than russian oligarchs, then they discuss "unfavorably" other members of "oppositions".
They are pretty disgusting, and I am not talking about sex, I am talking about content of their talks.
Pelevina is supported financially by McCain's, fund and we all know McCain is a great judge of character
Also she says Clinton (Hillary) would take her if she does not get elected to Russian Parlament.
And she also mentions CIA, so, yeah, great work CIA!

So this wiki article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikhail_Kasyanov) which suggests he indeed can be considered opposition is a fraud (probably by CIA)?

What do you mean by wiki article is a fraud? Yes, he is called an opposition to Putin, does not make him one, it does not even make him descent person. The only reason he is still not forgotten is because he had his party registered and other opposition "leaders" could not.
So they formed a block with this guy and his party to go to election. In reality they don't consider him an opposition and after that tape leak Yashin publicly asked Kasyanov to take part in primaries, because Kasyanov was #1 in the party list by agreement. I would like to know what he told Kasyanov privately though
I understand you don't understand russian, but no normal and descent person who watched that tape would not vote for party with that piece of shit going #1 in the party list.

Where do you get that it was most likely her that filmed it?

I explained that already, couple of months before that leaked Pelevina was caught using pen-camera to secretly record her own people and stuff. After that her home was searched by authorities and stuff.

Could you also elaborate on FSB agenda on leaking the video to the media?

Use your imagination. "Opposition" has had a string of cases where their conversations were magically leaked to the media.
This one is most outrageous and damaging so far.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

And why shouldn't we think it was done by the FSB?

Because woman was caught using that camera-pen to record her own damn opposition colleagues.
And no, that was not a FSB setup, she was seen with that pen on old, prior to this videos . So yeah, bitch was sent by MI-6/CIA to watch after russian opposition critters.

That's not evidence.

 

[barbos]

Because woman was caught using that camera-pen to record her own damn opposition colleagues.
And no, that was not a FSB setup, she was seen with that pen on old, prior to this videos . So yeah, bitch was sent by MI-6/CIA to watch after russian opposition critters.

That's not evidence.

Who are you? a judge?
That's pretty good indication that she was the one recording.
Even if it was FSB, so what? It does not change the fact that they are both assholes.

 

[crispy]

What do you mean by wiki article is a fraud? Yes, he is called an opposition to Putin, does not make him one, it does not even make him descent person. The only reason he is still not forgotten is because he had his party registered and other opposition "leaders" could not.
So they formed a block with this guy and his party to go to election. In reality they don't consider him an opposition and after that tape leak Yashin publicly asked Kasyanov to take part in primaries, because Kasyanov was #1 in the party list by agreement. I would like to know what he told Kasyanov privately though
I understand you don't understand russian, but no normal and descent person who watched that tape would not vote for party with that piece of shit going #1 in the party list.

So what im reading is that he used to be considered opposition, till the video was leaked by the FSB, but now no one is going to vote for him because of his reputation.

I explained that already, couple of months before that leaked Pelevina was caught using pen-camera to secretly record her own people and stuff. After that her home was searched by authorities and stuff.

So you quote your own post as proof?

Use your imagination. "Opposition" has had a string of cases where their conversations were magically leaked to the media.
This one is most outrageous and damaging so far.

My imagination tells me that FSB leaked the video to discredit him. So why do you think they leaked it?

 

[barbos]

So what im reading is that he used to be considered opposition,

Only technically. Basically, Putin had him as Prime Minister during early days, then he fired him and he became an "opposition".

till the video was leaked by the FSB, but now no one is going to vote for him because of his reputation.

His reputation have never been good.

I explained that already, couple of months before that leaked Pelevina was caught using pen-camera to secretly record her own people and stuff. After that her home was searched by authorities and stuff.

So you quote your own post as proof?

I did not know we were at the trial, but yeah, I am not a liar.

Use your imagination. "Opposition" has had a string of cases where their conversations were magically leaked to the media.
This one is most outrageous and damaging so far.

My imagination tells me that FSB leaked the video to discredit him. So why do you think they leaked it?

Use your imagination again.

 

[crispy]

Only technically. Basically, Putin had him as Prime Minister during early days, then he fired him and he became an "opposition".

till the video was leaked by the FSB, but now no one is going to vote for him because of his reputation.

His reputation have never been good.

I explained that already, couple of months before that leaked Pelevina was caught using pen-camera to secretly record her own people and stuff. After that her home was searched by authorities and stuff.

So you quote your own post as proof?

I did not know we were at the trial, but yeah, I am not a liar.

Use your imagination. "Opposition" has had a string of cases where their conversations were magically leaked to the media.
This one is most outrageous and damaging so far.

My imagination tells me that FSB leaked the video to discredit him. So why do you think they leaked it?

Use your imagination again.

You are not presenting any arguments at all.

I will let it rest at the FSB leaking the video to discredit him then.

 

[KeepTalking]

Who said politics in Russia is boring?

No one, ever, anywhere.

Corrupt, deadly, possibly even insane, but boring? Nah, never heard anyone say that.

 

[Axulus]

Someone set a politician up with a woman. It happens everywhere.

You did not pay attention to the story at all, did you?
That someone is most likely US/UK intelligence, not the evil Putin and his FSB. It's just FSB got their hands on the tape.
The guy comes out as total piece of shit, and so is that woman and they are both considered (by the West) to be opposition to Putin "regime". British paper article even calls him oppoition leader or something, he is nothing of the sort to anybody with a half-brain. He has been a prime minister during early Putin.
The fact that guy is a piece of shit is not new to anybody in Russia, what is new is that other people in the opposition camp which have been looking seemingly clean, are not really so, according to recorded discussion, specifically Yashin, young and spunky dude in the opposition circles. These two lovebirds implied that he (Yashin) would sell his seat. Now, fucking Blagoevich got to prison for that.
You want Russia to be more like US? well then some of these opposition leaders should go to prison too.

So you are saying there is no real opposition, just a fake one, and a bad one at that. That makes Russia even more so a one party dictatorship. Not sure how you think this casts Russia in a favorable light.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

That's not evidence.

Who are you? a judge?
That's pretty good indication that she was the one recording.
Even if it was FSB, so what? It does not change the fact that they are both assholes.

The point is that showing that she's the one that made the recording says nothing about whether she was FSB or CIA.

 

[zorq]

Who are you? a judge?
That's pretty good indication that she was the one recording.
Even if it was FSB, so what? It does not change the fact that they are both assholes.

The point is that showing that she's the one that made the recording says nothing about whether she was FSB or CIA.

I agree with Loren here, Barbos. We have no reason to believe anything about anything here at all. None. Was the girl recording this or not? No evidence. Was the girl involved with FSB or CIA or Other or Nobody? No evidence. Does anybody in the West care in the slightest about this guy? No evidence.

What's the story here?
Political Elites successfully discredit opposition by exposing uncomfortable truths?
In other news, water is wet. It's a tale as old as time.

 

[barbos]

You did not pay attention to the story at all, did you?
That someone is most likely US/UK intelligence, not the evil Putin and his FSB. It's just FSB got their hands on the tape.
The guy comes out as total piece of shit, and so is that woman and they are both considered (by the West) to be opposition to Putin "regime". British paper article even calls him oppoition leader or something, he is nothing of the sort to anybody with a half-brain. He has been a prime minister during early Putin.
The fact that guy is a piece of shit is not new to anybody in Russia, what is new is that other people in the opposition camp which have been looking seemingly clean, are not really so, according to recorded discussion, specifically Yashin, young and spunky dude in the opposition circles. These two lovebirds implied that he (Yashin) would sell his seat. Now, fucking Blagoevich got to prison for that.
You want Russia to be more like US? well then some of these opposition leaders should go to prison too.

So you are saying there is no real opposition, just a fake one, and a bad one at that. That makes Russia even more so a one party dictatorship. Not sure how you think this casts Russia in a favorable light.

I was not trying to show Russia in favorable light. I was merely showing US in unfavorable light, because of their automatic support of any scum which declares himself an opposition to Putin,

 

[barbos]

Who are you? a judge?
That's pretty good indication that she was the one recording.
Even if it was FSB, so what? It does not change the fact that they are both assholes.

The point is that showing that she's the one that made the recording says nothing about whether she was FSB or CIA.

Well, we know she was funded by McCain's fund for some democracy and stuff. You are really weird in your desire to discuss irrelevant details.