Why do people keep dying in police custody?

[Tom Sawyer]

Why would someone be indignant over someone getting a meal during a long interrogation? It just seems like good manners.

 

[laughing dog]

You may think you are royalty, but you are wrong. I saw no indignation over the feeding of Roof. None.

Then you weren't paying attention.

There was no indignation in my region that was voiced. Even by the usual suspects.

 

[marc]

Why would someone be indignant over someone getting a meal during a long interrogation? It just seems like good manners.

I don't think there was much indignation over giving Roof a meal. I believe the outrage many people expressed was how a person known to have murdered so many was given far better treatment than many black people who were unarmed, most not having committed any serious offense, or any offense at all.

 

[Bronzeage]

Then you weren't paying attention.

There was no indignation in my region that was voiced. Even by the usual suspects.

Yes, I'm sure your region is filled with the morally superior. I happily concede the point.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

Why would someone be indignant over someone getting a meal during a long interrogation? It just seems like good manners.

I don't think there was much indignation over giving Roof a meal. I believe the outrage many people expressed was how a person known to have murdered so many was given far better treatment than many black people who were unarmed, most not having committed any serious offense, or any offense at all.

Well, perhaps if the police department had to shell out the cost for a cheeseburger everytime they arrested someone they'd be less inclined to abuse their authority in that manner.

 

[Toni]

Why would someone be indignant over someone getting a meal during a long interrogation? It just seems like good manners.

I don't think there was much indignation over giving Roof a meal. I believe the outrage many people expressed was how a person known to have murdered so many was given far better treatment than many black people who were unarmed, most not having committed any serious offense, or any offense at all.

Oh, I'm sure there are those who are outraged that he was given a burger during interrogation. After all, we KNOW he is guilty, right?

I just do not equate indignation as justifiable moral outrage. But then, I'm in the group that is upset by people dying in police custody. Or while being taken into police custody. Or instead of being taken into police custody.

Oh, and I'm also opposed to the death penalty. Even for Dylan Roof.

The fact that one might be treated better while in police custody than out on the streets is something else which causes me to feel outraged. But my solution would not include treating people in custody worse, but rather finding solutions to helping those out on the streets have better access to food, shelter, medical care. And by medical care, I would include adequate mental health care.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

You may believe that,but you are wrong.Sheriffs Departments are responsible for the safety of all that they detain.

Safety, yes--but I don't think preventing suicide falls into that category other than with psych cases.

 

[AthenaAwakened]

You may believe that,but you are wrong.Sheriffs Departments are responsible for the safety of all that they detain.

Safety, yes--but I don't think preventing suicide falls into that category other than with psych cases.

I have to ask again,

Do you ever read what you type before you press POST?

 

[Bronzeage]

You may believe that,but you are wrong.Sheriffs Departments are responsible for the safety of all that they detain.

Safety, yes--but I don't think preventing suicide falls into that category other than with psych cases.

If preventing suicide is not part of keeping a person safe, what definition of safe are you using?

 

[ksen]

Safety, yes--but I don't think preventing suicide falls into that category other than with psych cases.

I have to ask again,

Do you ever read what you type before you press POST?

tbf I don't think anyone reads what he posts

 

[Crazy Eddie]

Is it because Police seldom are held accountable if they are negligent?

Why would someone be indignant over someone getting a meal during a long interrogation? It just seems like good manners.

I don't think there was much indignation over giving Roof a meal. I believe the outrage many people expressed was how a person known to have murdered so many was given far better treatment than many black people who were unarmed, most not having committed any serious offense, or any offense at all.

You may believe that,but you are wrong.Sheriffs Departments are responsible for the safety of all that they detain.

Safety, yes--but I don't think preventing suicide falls into that category other than with psych cases.

What
The
FUCK?!

 

[laughing dog]

There was no indignation in my region that was voiced. Even by the usual suspects.

Yes, I'm sure your region is filled with the morally superior. I happily concede the point.

Do you even know what you are going on about?

 

[Bronzeage]

Yes, I'm sure your region is filled with the morally superior. I happily concede the point.

Do you even know what you are going on about?

Yes, but I got tired of explaining it.

 

[bleubird]

You may believe that,but you are wrong.Sheriffs Departments are responsible for the safety of all that they detain.

Safety, yes--but I don't think preventing suicide falls into that category other than with psych cases.

than try thinking.

 

[laughing dog]

Do you even know what you are going on about?

Yes, but I got tired of explaining it.

Try making sense. That usually works.

 

[Crazy Eddie]

"We" were not also indignant when Mr. Roof was fed during his interrogation.

Of course we are.

You got a mouse in your pocket? Who the hell is "we?"

Do you even know what you are going on about?

Yes, but I got tired of explaining it.

You didn't explain it. You just assumed the reaction to Roof having a cheeseburger was universal indignation.

It wasn't. My initial reaction was "Meh." My second reaction was "Actually, that makes sense... he'll be more cooperative if you make him comfortable. 'Rapport building' as intelligence guys call it."

My third reaction was "How come they never try that on black people?"

 

[Bronzeage]

Of course we are.

You got a mouse in your pocket? Who the hell is "we?"

Do you even know what you are going on about?

Yes, but I got tired of explaining it.

You didn't explain it. You just assumed the reaction to Roof having a cheeseburger was universal indignation.

It wasn't. My initial reaction was "Meh." My second reaction was "Actually, that makes sense... he'll be more cooperative if you make him comfortable. 'Rapport building' as intelligence guys call it."

My third reaction was "How come they never try that on black people?"

It's really simple. If you think no one was indignant about the appearance of preferential treatment for a mass murderer, it must be true. What I saw and read in news reports and internet comments must be something I imagined. I'll accept your authority on this matter.

 

[Toni]

You got a mouse in your pocket? Who the hell is "we?"

Do you even know what you are going on about?

Yes, but I got tired of explaining it.

You didn't explain it. You just assumed the reaction to Roof having a cheeseburger was universal indignation.

It wasn't. My initial reaction was "Meh." My second reaction was "Actually, that makes sense... he'll be more cooperative if you make him comfortable. 'Rapport building' as intelligence guys call it."

My third reaction was "How come they never try that on black people?"

It's really simple. If you think no one was indignant about the appearance of preferential treatment for a mass murderer, it must be true. What I saw and read in news reports and internet comments must be something I imagined. I'll accept your authority on this matter.

I'm sure plenty of people were pretty indignant at the appearance of preferential treatment for Roof.

Thing is, it wasn't or at least should not have been preferential treatment. If you take someone into custody, you have a legal and moral obligation to provide adequate food, shelter, medical care necessary. No matter how loathesome the person is or how guilty you are certain he is. He may be a crazed inhuman monster but that doesn't mean that his jailers, representatives of the people, should be.

But more than that, as was stated, it is a known technique to get better cooperation. Feeding people breaks down barriers, creates a situation where the person's guard might be let down better. Which is very important if you are concerned that he might be part of a larger conspiracy and there might be other gunmen waiting to shoot up another place. Or just a conspiracy. You want to know as much as you can from this guy. One good way to get him talking is to feed him.



I also haven't heard a lot of outrage at his treatment. Doesn't mean that there isn't any. I just haven't heard it.

 

[Bronzeage]

You got a mouse in your pocket? Who the hell is "we?"

Do you even know what you are going on about?

Yes, but I got tired of explaining it.

You didn't explain it. You just assumed the reaction to Roof having a cheeseburger was universal indignation.

It wasn't. My initial reaction was "Meh." My second reaction was "Actually, that makes sense... he'll be more cooperative if you make him comfortable. 'Rapport building' as intelligence guys call it."

My third reaction was "How come they never try that on black people?"

It's really simple. If you think no one was indignant about the appearance of preferential treatment for a mass murderer, it must be true. What I saw and read in news reports and internet comments must be something I imagined. I'll accept your authority on this matter.

I'm sure plenty of people were pretty indignant at the appearance of preferential treatment for Roof.

Thing is, it wasn't or at least should not have been preferential treatment. If you take someone into custody, you have a legal and moral obligation to provide adequate food, shelter, medical care necessary. No matter how loathesome the person is or how guilty you are certain he is. He may be a crazed inhuman monster but that doesn't mean that his jailers, representatives of the people, should be.

But more than that, as was stated, it is a known technique to get better cooperation. Feeding people breaks down barriers, creates a situation where the person's guard might be let down better. Which is very important if you are concerned that he might be part of a larger conspiracy and there might be other gunmen waiting to shoot up another place. Or just a conspiracy. You want to know as much as you can from this guy. One good way to get him talking is to feed him.



I also haven't heard a lot of outrage at his treatment. Doesn't mean that there isn't any. I just haven't heard it.

My word for it was "indignant," not outrage. Some of the news feed headlines made it sound like they stopped at Burger King on the way to the police station. Some people have trouble with comprehension and read what they think they see, not what is actually there.

 

[laughing dog]

You got a mouse in your pocket? Who the hell is "we?"

Do you even know what you are going on about?

Yes, but I got tired of explaining it.

You didn't explain it. You just assumed the reaction to Roof having a cheeseburger was universal indignation.

It wasn't. My initial reaction was "Meh." My second reaction was "Actually, that makes sense... he'll be more cooperative if you make him comfortable. 'Rapport building' as intelligence guys call it."

My third reaction was "How come they never try that on black people?"

It's really simple. If you think no one was indignant about the appearance of preferential treatment for a mass murderer, it must be true. What I saw and read in news reports and internet comments must be something I imagined. I'll accept your authority on this matter.

How hard is it to comprehend that whatever "indignation" happened in your purview, it was not necessarily repeated elsewhere. Hence, when you use the term "we" without any clarification whatsoever, others could reasonably doubt or ask about it.