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Why doesn’t the United States invade and conquer Mexico?

I think the reasons the USA does not invade and conquer Mexico are the same reasons the USA does not invade and conquer Canada: there is no real net benefit considering the costs.

Bingo. Why feed, clothe, house them and pay for someone to keep them cowed and under control, when the Mexican government and associated gangs will do all that for you for free, and still give you access to the labor?

Also - I might be wrong about this, but I think that before we could enslave them we'd need to make slavery legal?
 
There would be a popular uprising south of the border. We also have a sizeable group of Latinos with political power.

Land disputes were settled by treaty and payments to Mexico in the 19th century. We already had a war with Mexico.

Our drug problem is primarily an American demand problem. Trying to wipe out the drug cartels by invasion would be yet another unwinnable involvement in a civil war that is unwinable.

It may not seem so with Trump and his lackeys, outright conquest is not in our DNA. Post WWII Italy, Germany.,Japan were not subjugated and are today independent. We toppled Hussein and handed Iraq to the people, who were not ready for it.

Last but not least it is still the constitution that gives congress the power to declare war.I imagine Trump could order troops in to Mexico on some argument of national security, and the Republican senate would roll over. It is what the constitution was designed to prevent, military adventurism by the chief executive.
 
There would be a popular uprising south of the border. We also have a sizeable group of Latinos with political power.

Land disputes were settled by treaty and payments to Mexico in the 19th century. We already had a war with Mexico.

Our drug problem is primarily an American demand problem. Trying to wipe out the drug cartels by invasion would be yet another unwinnable involvement in a civil war that is unwinable.

It may not seem so with Trump and his lackeys, outright conquest is not in our DNA. Post WWII Italy, Germany.,Japan were not subjugated and are today independent. We toppled Hussein and handed Iraq to the people, who were not ready for it.

Last but not least it is still the constitution that gives congress the power to declare war.I imagine Trump could order troops in to Mexico on some argument of national security, and the Republican senate would roll over. It is what the constitution was designed to prevent, military adventurism by the chief executive.

Throughout the 19th Century, the US was happy to engage in military adventurism and outright conquest. Slavery was legal and nowhere in our laws did it limit such to blacks. So it is in our DNA to conquer. And Americans were happy to support it outright.

The question is why haven’t we continued to conquer? Mexico is right next door. Iraq, Germany and Japan are too far away.

Is it a moral calculus? Or something else?

SLD
 
Its because the plutocrats who run the US like the status quo better. They can get their labor cheaper by leaving Mexico just like it already is.
 
There would be a popular uprising south of the border. We also have a sizeable group of Latinos with political power.

Land disputes were settled by treaty and payments to Mexico in the 19th century. We already had a war with Mexico.

Our drug problem is primarily an American demand problem. Trying to wipe out the drug cartels by invasion would be yet another unwinnable involvement in a civil war that is unwinable.

It may not seem so with Trump and his lackeys, outright conquest is not in our DNA. Post WWII Italy, Germany.,Japan were not subjugated and are today independent. We toppled Hussein and handed Iraq to the people, who were not ready for it.

Last but not least it is still the constitution that gives congress the power to declare war.I imagine Trump could order troops in to Mexico on some argument of national security, and the Republican senate would roll over. It is what the constitution was designed to prevent, military adventurism by the chief executive.

Throughout the 19th Century, the US was happy to engage in military adventurism and outright conquest. Slavery was legal and nowhere in our laws did it limit such to blacks. So it is in our DNA to conquer. And Americans were happy to support it outright.

The question is why haven’t we continued to conquer? Mexico is right next door. Iraq, Germany and Japan are too far away.

Is it a moral calculus? Or something else?

SLD

Asked and answered. My examples are post WWII. VN, both gulf wars, Iraq, and Syria are all military adventurism. Conservatizes act like it is college football. Flag waving. Were the baldest in the world. Military action makes people feel good. We have gone from appreciating our military to a worship of our military. A military culture.

That being said we have not planted the flag anywhere. As I recall US business got none of the post Hussein oil contracts. We got rid of colonies, with territories a hold over.
 
It used to be that if two countries shared a border, they needed to have roughly equal military strength on that border, or the stronger one would invade the weaker as a matter of course. This was the obvious and normal way of things, for centuries. If you had the power to invade a neighbour with impunity, then that's what you did.

Then there was a big war. At the time, it was called "The Great War", and was described as "the war to end all wars". It didn't quite live up to that billing; indeed, twenty years later, they had a reunion and did the whole thing over - at which point the two periods of fighting became known as "World War I" and "World War II".

The first world war may not have ended all wars, but it did teach most of the Great Powers that the old system of invading anyone weaker that oneself was a poor idea - modern weapons and tactics made even a successful invasion of another Great Power too costly to bother with.

Some of the Great Powers were slow learners, and had to have a do-over before realising that this wasn't solely an effect of getting bogged down in a static defensive conflict until one side ran out of shells, food, and troops; It proved to also be true of a "lightning war" in which armour and air power allowed rapid movement of attacking forces.

Basically, in the first half of the twentieth century, weapons became sufficiently powerful that winning a war cost more than not having one at all, at least for major powers. Small colonial wars against poorly armed people a long way from your borders are still fairly attractive, but even a little bit of war at home is now too much to be worth the cost.

Mexico would lose a war against the USA in short order; But the US wouldn't get off without some serious damage to people and property inside the US itself. That's going to lose a lot of votes for whichever party decides to invade across the Rio Grande.

Shit, Americans have no tolerance for even a small terrorist attack on their own soil - 9/11 caused the entire nation to collectively lose their shit over three buildings being hit. They wouldn't be sanguine about the retreating Mexican defenders shelling US border cities and towns into rubble, even if the Mexicans were bombed back to the paleolithic immediately thereafter.
 
I think the reasons the USA does not invade and conquer Mexico are the same reasons the USA does not invade and conquer Canada: there is no real net benefit considering the costs.


Actually, the US did try to invade and conquer Canada. It ended up causing the war of 1812 with Britain.

Wikipedia - War of 1812

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American defeats at the Siege of Detroit and the Battle of Queenston Heights thwarted attempts to seize Upper Canada, improving British morale. American attempts also failed to invade Lower Canada and capture Montreal. In 1813, the Americans won the Battle of Lake Erie, gaining control of the lake, and they defeated Tecumseh's Confederacy at the Battle of the Thames, securing a primary war goal. The Americans made a final attempt to invade Canada but fought to a draw at the Battle of Lundy's Lane during the summer of 1814. At sea, the powerful Royal Navy blockaded American ports, cutting off trade and allowing the British to raid the coast at will.
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Why doesn’t the United States invade and conquer Mexico?

Not that there’s any moral reason to do so, but simply because it can. Mexico could be quickly and easily conquered by the US military machine. Mexico has no serious allies that could stop us or even punish us for doing so.

Conquering Mexico could allow us cheaper access to its oil and other natural resources. We could enslave its population and use them as agricultural workers or other cheap sources of labor. Their women could be used as comfort women for our soldiers.

So why don’t we?

Our Overseers have a "free trade" agreement that allows corporations to hire them at serf wages. So they already work for The Man and help to yield profits. For example Walmart. In 2008 the Mexican govt said Walmart would have to stop trying to pay employees in Walmart coupons.

No worries! The minimum wage is $6 per day. Across everything, even good paying jobs, outside Walmart, The average salary is about $16k per year.

This allows our Overseers to extract labor efficiently while mitigating the risk of costly revolution.

As far as natural resources, currently our Overseers are looking into overtaking Venezuelan oil from the inside by bribing right wing politicians to overthrow govt and denationalize the oil. This is a low cost, high reward endeavor and why our Overseers are geniuses.

Why spend high cost on military campaigns when diplomacy, bribery, and propaganda do the job?
 
It may not seem so with Trump and his lackeys, outright conquest is not in our DNA. Post WWII Italy, Germany.,Japan were not subjugated and are today independent. We toppled Hussein and handed Iraq to the people, who were not ready for it.
This is just silly, of course it's in our DNA. The country was founded by conquest, and most of its history was characterized by conquest. Indeed, as pointed out, part of that already involved Mexico. We tried, and failed, to conquer Canada as well.
 
It may not seem so with Trump and his lackeys, outright conquest is not in our DNA. Post WWII Italy, Germany.,Japan were not subjugated and are today independent. We toppled Hussein and handed Iraq to the people, who were not ready for it.
This is just silly, of course it's in our DNA. The country was founded by conquest, and most of its history was characterized by conquest. Indeed, as pointed out, part of that already involved Mexico. We tried, and failed, to conquer Canada as well.

Steve is something of a romantic, with regards to American History.

Or, less charitably, we could suggest that he is a victim of Cold War propaganda.

The site ToU prohibit me from any even less charitable assessment. ;)
 
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