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Why is Baltimore burning?

Bronzeage

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Everyone keeps asking me what anyone hopes to gain by burning and looting. That's not really the way to look at it. There is no gain. When something is off balance, there is pressure to a return to balance. The further something is from the balance point, the more erratic and unpredictable it becomes. It's all about Power and the deal we make with Power.

We let Power tell us how fast we can drive, how tall our grass can grow, and a multitude of other rules and regulations that don't mean anything, except without them we would have chaos. In return for knuckling under and obeying the rules, Power promises to maintain order. It's a pretty good deal for us. We get to have nice things like cars and houses and clean water, without having to turn our house into a fortress to protect our stuff from our neighbors.

There are always a few people who want to steal our stuff. They steal our car, break into our house, they might even dump oil in our water. Power keeps these people under control. They maintain order. They made a deal. Order is the opposite of chaos. As long as Power keeps their side of the bargain, all is fine.
Power has limited resources. It depends upon the cooperation of most people, to keep the unruly people under control. When most people start to get the feeling that Power is not keeping up the bargain, bad things happen. Power can't do it all. When enough people decide to go out in the street and confront Power, to demand the bargain be kept, it doesn't matter how orderly they are. It doesn't matter how peaceful they are. Power doesn't have the resources to keep order when too many people decide to be a little disorderly.
Power can't be everywhere at the same time, so the few people who never respected Power in the first place, do what they've been wanting to do. There is no plan, there is no goal. They just want to steal and break stuff, and Power has its hands full at the moment.

The only thing Power values more than keeping Power, is keeping order. Without order, Power is useless. Without order, Power has nothing to offer and it's very likely some other Power will come along and make a new bargain. It happens all the time. We call it revolution.
In the case of Baltimore, Power lost sight of the critical element in the great bargain. If you want a person to cooperate, they must have something at stake, if they don't cooperate. You can't threaten a person who has nothing to lose. The death of a man in police custody is an extreme thing. For every extreme thing, there are thousands of moderate things. What's moderate compared to a fatal spinal injury? Maybe a concussion. Maybe a cracked rib. If the Baltimore Police can fatally injure a man who is handcuffed, how many did they moderately injure?

Every person who was mistreated by the Baltimore police has parents and brothers and sisters and friends. The guy with the concussion may have a criminal record, and maybe deserves to have permanent brain damage, but who thinks his mother, the licensed practical nurse, is going to forget what happened. Will his father, the Postal Carrier, think his son got what he deserved from the police?
That's not the way it works.

If Power wants to keep the bargain, they can't do it by hurting people. The bargain is, "cooperate and we will keep you safe." There is nothing in the bargain about "refuse to cooperate and we will kill you." No one signed up for that deal. If anyone in Baltimore wants to restore order, they need to go back and figure out when it was that people decided they had nothing to lose.
 
To their credit, everyone personally involved in the whole situation have implored people from the beginning to not riot and to show the US that they're not just a bunch of thugs looking for an excuse to loot and riot because it doesn't help their cause or image.

Alas, their pleas fell on deaf ears.

And word around was two local gangs were inciting the riot so as to be able to loot.
 
To their credit, everyone personally involved in the whole situation have implored people from the beginning to not riot and to show the US that they're not just a bunch of thugs looking for an excuse to loot and riot because it doesn't help their cause or image.

Alas, their pleas fell on deaf ears.

And word around was two local gangs were inciting the riot so as to be able to loot.

That is predictable as rain and to be expected. It's also expected to hear people say things like that, but it presumes a level of planning that only exists in Charles Bronson movies.
 
The vast majority of the protestors were peaceful and not violent, despite what news headlines might have one believe.
 
The vast majority of the protestors were peaceful and not violent, despite what news headlines might have one believe.

The vast majority of the protestors were peaceful and not violent, despite what news headlines might have one believe.
This. And if there wasn't violence the media would ignore it.

It doesn't matter how peaceful they were. Their decision to walk in the street, something which violates some rule, somewhere, pushed the Baltimore police beyond their limit to maintain order. Power failed to keep the bargain.
 
i think it simply comes down to the fact that human civilization is built on a somewhat shaky premise in the first place: that a very few people have the vast majority of power, wealth, security, and comfort - made on the backs of, and at the expense of, the mindless teeming massive hordes of the rest of the species. but, the teeming masses will generally have just enough so that they're better off than they would be in a solo survivalist scenario.
this is pretty much the basis for human society in every country for all of recorded history.

what never ceases to astonish me is how those in power and those with wealth forget that they're vastly outnumbered by a horde of downtrodden people, and the social contract of "we agree not to just kill you rich mother fuckers in the street and take your shit" is never anymore than a perceived downward shift in the "better off than they would be in a solo survivalist scenario" from being discarded and for polite society to break down.

in my experience most humans spend most of their lives being a single spark away from a bonfire of violence against the inherent stupidity and inequality of civilization.
why it is that every 50-100 years the rich and powerful feel the need to rile the proles up and start putting flint to steel is beyond me.
 
We know why Baltimore is burning. And so do the people who keep asking why.

But the asking removes the need to take responsibility for changing an injustice in the status quo from the person asking.

And before the accusations of appeals to guilt, white or otherwise, do understand

Guilt is what you feel because of you do, responsibility is what you take because of who you are. If one of my guests runs over my neighbor's flowers, I take responsibility for the damage because that's what grown folk do. Grown folk see something broken and we fix it, whether we broke it or not.

It's time for America to grow the fuck up.
 
The vast majority of the protestors were peaceful and not violent, despite what news headlines might have one believe.
This. And if there wasn't violence the media would ignore it.

The key image for me was a photo of a man smashing a police car window with a trash can. In the background were six other photographers racing in to get the shot.

It's practically reached the level of performance art.
 
And word around was two local gangs were inciting the riot so as to be able to loot.

That's odd. Word around here, from the actual gangs, is that they were banding together to keep things peaceful. And that the riot began when a bunch of high school kids were forced off of the public transit busses they use to go home by police, who then shoved them around and told them to "go home".
 
There are always a few people who want to steal our stuff. They steal our car, break into our house, they might even dump oil in our water. Power keeps these people under control.
I live in a different place to you and I find that a strange way to think.
 
Baltimore is burning because the police kill and injure too many people, and are not effectively held to account for doing so. Given that one of the primary functions of the police is to keep the streets safe and private property intact, publically disrupting the streets and burning private property is a sane and rational response. It humiliates the police, and prevents them from carrying out their function in they way to which they have become accustomed.

The citizens of Baltimore don't have to have riots and burned out buildings. They could have an effective police force. They haven't managed to do that in the past. They tried to get away with a police force that was only effective for some of the people, some of the time, and it bit them in the ass.

What will be interesting is whether they have learned anything. If we just get the same old platitudes and appeals for harmony, then it's probably time to make sure you don't like in Baltimore, or have any investments or property in the area that you want to keep. If, instead, the citizens get serious about running an effective city, then we should see some signs of that in the months to come.
 
And word around was two local gangs were inciting the riot so as to be able to loot.

That's odd. Word around here, from the actual gangs, is that they were banding together to keep things peaceful. And that the riot began when a bunch of high school kids were forced off of the public transit busses they use to go home by police, who then shoved them around and told them to "go home".

Read this over coffee:

After Baltimore police and a crowd of teens clashed near the Mondawmin Mall in northwest Baltimore on Monday afternoon, news reports described the violence as a riot triggered by kids who had been itching for a fight all day. But in interviews with Mother Jones and other media outlets, teachers and parents maintain that police actions inflamed a tense-but-stable situation.

The funeral of Freddie Gray, a 25-year-old black man who died in police custody this month, had ended hours earlier at a nearby church. According to the Baltimore Sun, a call to "purge"—a reference to the 2013 dystopian film in which all crime is made legal for one night—circulated on social media among school-aged Baltimoreans that morning. The rumored plan—which was not traced to any specific person or group—was to assemble at the Mondawmin Mall at 3 p.m. and proceed down Pennsylvania Avenue toward downtown Baltimore. The Baltimore Police Department, which was aware of the "purge" call, prepared for the worst. Shortly before noon, the department issued a statement saying it had "received credible information that members of various gangs…have entered into a partnership to 'take-out' law enforcement officers."

When school let out that afternoon, police were in the area equipped with full riot gear. According to eyewitnesses in the Mondawmin neighborhood, the police were stopping busses and forcing riders, including many students who were trying to get home, to disembark. Cops shut down the local subway stop. They also blockaded roads near the Mondawmin Mall and Frederick Douglass High School, which is across the street from the mall, and essentially corralled young people in the area. That is, they did not allow the after-school crowd to disperse.
 
One big contributing factor is surely Baltimore mayor, Stephanie Rawlings-Blake, saying that those who wish to destroy should be given space.
Baltimore Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake Under Fire For 'Space' to Destroy Comment


Speaking of stupid statements, there is a woman in East Point, Ga who got arrested for calling on black people to murder white cops.
Ebony Monique Dickens said:
All Black ppl should rise up and shoot at every white cop in the nation starting NOW.

I condone black on white killings. Hell they condone crimes against us.

I’ve thought about shooting every white cop I see in the head until I’m either caught by the police or killed by them. Ha!!!! I think I can pull it off. Might kill at least fifteen tomorrow. I’m plotting now. They reading this sh** too right now. Freedom of speech tho. So when you can absolutely show me the 1st amendment where it explicitly says you can’t say “kill all cops,” then I’ll delete my status. Other than that…NOPE!

Death to all white cops nationwide.
I wonder how long it will be until somebody starts defending her.
 
And word around was two local gangs were inciting the riot so as to be able to loot.

That's odd. Word around here, from the actual gangs, is that they were banding together to keep things peaceful. And that the riot began when a bunch of high school kids were forced off of the public transit busses they use to go home by police, who then shoved them around and told them to "go home".

Also:


How drunk sports fans helped spark Saturday night's post-protest violence

On Saturday night, following the violence that broke out near Camden Yards, a photo of me supposedly protecting a woman from violent protesters surfaced on BuzzFeed and then trickled down to the conservative armpit of the internet where it was mischaracterized. In the photo, I look strangely heroic, and the picture was quickly co-opted by those who like to present an all-too-common and easy narrative: white people being terrorized by black people.

The truth, or as much as I have been able to cobble together from my own memory and notes, videos online, video I shot, and videos from City Paper’s Managing Editor Baynard Woods, is far less interesting, though much more important than “white dude saves white lady.”


[...]
When the protesters turned the corner onto Washington Boulevard from Camden Street chanting “black lives matter,” some baseball fans applauded and a few angrily chanted back, “We don’t care”—someone who worked at The Bullpen confirmed this for me. He also said that some patrons chanted “run them over,” and one yelled “go get them.” Other protestors, including City Paper contributor D. Watkins and gang members interviewed on WBAL, recall bar patrons calling them “niggers,” among other racist epithets.

[...]
In part, it also seems like it was a failure of security, who didn’t stop customers from jeering at the protesters. I was also told by employees at the bars that they had a discussion beforehand about how bad it would be if O’s fans who “every game, drink way too much” encountered protesters. The protesters who got violent weren’t from “out of town,” by the way. Some of their faces were recognizable to me as people who had been with the protests. Here were drunk, angry, white baseball fans and bar-goers who were equally guilty for the violence that happened that night and embraced the chance to fight and provoked some of it, and any accurate narrative must acknowledge that and barely anyone has acknowledged that. If you’d like to call Baltimore County whites and Boston Red Sox fans “outside agitators,” then you’ve got your outside agitators.

[...]

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Some of the Oriole fans who got their asses whipped this weekend were taunting protesters , calling us “Apes, Niggers and Monkeys”

I seems to me from all I'm reading that thousands and thousands of people protested peacefully, and a few score turned violent/destructive for a variety of reasons, some planned, some stupid, some emotionally reactionary.
 
Baltimore is burning because the police kill and injure too many people, and are not effectively held to account for doing so.

I think it's important to remember that it is not just the injuries and deaths. But the very disparity of arrests, such as the fact that marijuana use is similar among people who are black and white in the city, but people who are black are arrested at FIVE TIMES the rate. That this then affects their income, their ability to get and keep a job, their ability to stay in school, and their ability to have their victimhood acknowledged when they are killed by police.

Oh, he's got a rap sheet as long as my arm!
Yes, for mostly marijuana charges. Divide those by 5 because 80% of them are a result of racial disparity not more drug use.

You get stopped, hauled in, etc, even if you are not injured, you are going to miss work, pay fees and then have that arrest on your record when you go to apply for a job.


It's a fucking CYCLE that needs to be broken from above.

I was thinking last night as I heard a radio article about state-troopers from neighboring states coming in to help, and I thought, "How much money are they spending to investigate and stop the reaction to brutality and inequality. And how much money are they spending to investigate and stop the brutality and inequality?"

It's shameful, unproductive, hateful and harmful to us all.
 
There are always a few people who want to steal our stuff. They steal our car, break into our house, they might even dump oil in our water. Power keeps these people under control.
I live in a different place to you and I find that a strange way to think.

Do you live in a place where no one steals or pollutes the water, or do you live in a place where the government does not try to prevent these things?
 
Can someone help reconcile why if burning down the city where you live is so explainable/predictable/justifiable/inevitable so few people participate in it?
 
Can someone help reconcile why if burning down the city where you live is so explainable/predictable/justifiable/inevitable so few people participate in it?

Because it takes so much egregious and accumulated injustice to precipitate it and the aggregation of enough people to be empowered to risk it.
 
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