Why Trump Won't Divest - or release his taxes - EVER

[bilby]

Only if someone expected you to eat cornflakes.

Just as many people expected that the 2016 presidential candidates would release their taxes - and were surprised when one of them failed to do so.

Failure to do something implies that it is expected, not that it is mandatory.

Sounds like some people had an expectations fail then. I'm not going to be responsible for whether someone thinks I should eat corn flakes or not.

Nobody suggested that you should be.

 

[Elixir]

Sounds like some people had an expectations fail then. I'm not going to be responsible for whether someone thinks I should eat corn flakes or not.

Nobody suggested that you should be.

I guess the implication is that nobody should be concerned about Don the Con hiding his conflicts of interest and monetary misdeeds...

 

[dismal]

Nobody suggested that you should be.

I guess the implication is that nobody should be concerned about Don the Con hiding his conflicts of interest and monetary misdeeds...

Have you failed to make your tax returns public?

I find virtually everyone fails at this.

 

[Elixir]

I guess the implication is that nobody should be concerned about Don the Con hiding his conflicts of interest and monetary misdeeds...

Have you failed to make your tax returns public?

Nope. Nobody has asked. But I will make them public the second I decide to run for public office. I have nothing to hide, no conflicts of interest with foreign entities and no elaborate tax evasion scams that would embarrass me.

You FAILED to make a true equivocation there, dismal.

 

[dismal]

Have you failed to make your tax returns public?

Nope. Nobody has asked. But I will make them public the second I decide to run for public office. I have nothing to hide, no conflicts of interest with foreign entities and no elaborate tax evasion scams that would embarrass me.

You FAILED to make a true equivocation there, dismal.

Elixir, I call on you to stop failing to make your tax returns public.

What are you hiding? Wife beating lessons?

 

[Elixir]

Nope. Nobody has asked. But I will make them public the second I decide to run for public office. I have nothing to hide, no conflicts of interest with foreign entities and no elaborate tax evasion scams that would embarrass me.

You FAILED to make a true equivocation there, dismal.

Elixir, I call on you to stop failing to make your tax returns public.

What are you hiding? Wife beating lessons?

Please dismal - stop failing to raise any salient point based on rhetorical interpretations of the word FAIL.

PS - I only need some slightly more compelling reason to make my tax returns public than the idle curiosity of one individual whom I don't even know. It would take me at least a half hour to post the last four years' returns online, so you gotta cough up some reason why that would be worth my while. I don't have an accountant I can call for that purpose and just say "do it".

 

[dismal]

Elixir, I call on you to stop failing to make your tax returns public.

What are you hiding? Wife beating lessons?

Please dismal - stop failing to raise any salient point based on rhetorical interpretations of the word FAIL.

PS - I only need some slightly more compelling reason to make my tax returns public than the idle curiosity of one individual whom I don't even know. It would take me at least a half hour to post the last four years' returns online, so you gotta cough up some reason why that would be worth my while. I don't have an accountant I can call for that purpose and just say "do it".

I'm gonna assume that's a "yes, i am hiding wife beating lessons".

 

[laughing dog]

Please dismal - stop failing to raise any salient point based on rhetorical interpretations of the word FAIL.

PS - I only need some slightly more compelling reason to make my tax returns public than the idle curiosity of one individual whom I don't even know. It would take me at least a half hour to post the last four years' returns online, so you gotta cough up some reason why that would be worth my while. I don't have an accountant I can call for that purpose and just say "do it".

I'm gonna assume that's a "yes, i am hiding wife beating lessons".

Another failure of logic.

 

[KeepTalking]

I'm gonna assume that's a "yes, i am hiding wife beating lessons".

Another failure of logic.

How can it be a failure of logic when no one expects dismal to come up with anything logical in his posts?

 

[laughing dog]

Another failure of logic.

How can it be a failure of logic when no one expects dismal to come up with anything logical in his posts?

It is not a failure of expectations, but a failure of actuality.

 

[KeepTalking]

How can it be a failure of logic when no one expects dismal to come up with anything logical in his posts?

It is not a failure of expectations, but a failure of actuality.

Oh, I see. Well, I will give credit where credit is due, dismal is pretty damn good at failures of logic.

Keep up the good work, dismal, old buddy.

 

[Elixir]

Not to derail this thread or anything, but...
Nobody seems to argue against the OP, or its point that Don the Con is a fraud, a liar and up to his neck in conflicts of interest.
But let's talk some more about what constitutes "FAIL", since our trumpsuckers are unable to address the above...

 

[dismal]

Not to derail this thread or anything, but...
Nobody seems to argue against the OP, or its point that Don the Con is a fraud, a liar and up to his neck in conflicts of interest.
But let's talk some more about what constitutes "FAIL", since our trumpsuckers are unable to address the above...

If only there were some way for compliance professionals at the IRS to look at his tax returns and ensure he was paying the appropriate taxes.

 

[Elixir]

Not to derail this thread or anything, but...
Nobody seems to argue against the OP, or its point that Don the Con is a fraud, a liar and up to his neck in conflicts of interest.
But let's talk some more about what constitutes "FAIL", since our trumpsuckers are unable to address the above...

If only there were some way for compliance professionals at the IRS to look at his tax returns and ensure he was paying the appropriate taxes.

Is the the only thing you'd be concerned about? I am sure beyond a shadow of a doubt, that Trump's accountant and lawyers have made sure that there is nothing in those tax returns that is so blatantly illegal that those same lawyers and accountants couldn't effectively argue that they are permissible.
But again - is that the only thing you'd be concerned about? Wouldn't bother you if it turns out that he owes some Russian oligarch a few billion, for instance?

 

[dismal]

If only there were some way for compliance professionals at the IRS to look at his tax returns and ensure he was paying the appropriate taxes.

Is the the only thing you'd be concerned about? I am sure beyond a shadow of a doubt, that Trump's accountant and lawyers have made sure that there is nothing in those tax returns that is so blatantly illegal that those same lawyers and accountants couldn't effectively argue that they are permissible.
But again - is that the only thing you'd be concerned about? Wouldn't bother you if it turns out that he owes some Russian oligarch a few billion, for instance?

I will grant you that Trump releasing his tax returns could have been a political problem. He may have judged it to be more of a political problem than not releasing them.

The time for discussion of various political problems is over. Now you are just howling at the wind.

We settle political issues with elections. The election is over. Trump won.

It's incredibly stupid to think he'd take whatever political hit he took not releasing his tax returns and then release them anyway when he had nothing to gain by doing it. Almost beyond stupid into crazynuts.

 

[Philos]

Folks,

I won't reply to this thread because I won't mention Trump, except that I have mentioned him - Oh, and I have replied to the thread.

A.

 

[Elixir]

Is the the only thing you'd be concerned about? I am sure beyond a shadow of a doubt, that Trump's accountant and lawyers have made sure that there is nothing in those tax returns that is so blatantly illegal that those same lawyers and accountants couldn't effectively argue that they are permissible.
But again - is that the only thing you'd be concerned about? Wouldn't bother you if it turns out that he owes some Russian oligarch a few billion, for instance?

I will grant you that Trump releasing his tax returns could have been a political problem. He may have judged it to be more of a political problem than not releasing them.

Thank you Captain Obvious!

We settle political issues with elections. The election is over. Trump won.

And again... thanks.
Do you think it might become a problem for him in about 3 years? (I don't - at least I don't expect Trump to think so.)

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

I remember all the scandal with Obama not releasing papers he wrote in college, and then the great scandal of the Wright church deal. It seemed every rock needed to be unturned during his campaign. Heck, some even suggested he was a secret Muslim and not even born in the US and needed to give out his 'long-form' birth certificate.

Seems like the same assholes who demanded everything short of a rectal exam from Obama, seem quite fine with getting almost no disclosure from Trump. A man who said he was going to step back from his massive corporation (and apparently has decided against that). Hypocrites is one word for it, but I think that term underscores the level of hypocrisy from said assholes.

 

[fast]

Folks,

I won't reply to this thread because I won't mention Trump, except that I have mentioned him - Oh, and I have replied to the thread.

A.

You could have utilized the "use/mention" distinction and espoused the view that you will not use Trump's name. In such an instance, you would have succeeded (instead of failing) at stating the name you won't use.

 

[Elixir]

I remember all the scandal with Obama not releasing papers he wrote in college, and then the great scandal of the Wright church deal. It seemed every rock needed to be unturned during his campaign. Heck, some even suggested he was a secret Muslim and not even born in the US and needed to give out his 'long-form' birth certificate.

Seems like the same assholes who demanded everything short of a rectal exam from Obama, seem quite fine with getting almost no disclosure from Trump. A man who said he was going to step back from his massive corporation (and apparently has decided against that). Hypocrites is one word for it, but I think that term underscores the level of hypocrisy from said assholes.

White is, by it's very nature, transparent. By the same token, black is opaque. So if you have the severe misfortune to have a black president elect, ya gotta examine everything from the political leanings of his baby sitter when he was an infant, to the fine print on his possibly fake birth certificate to everything he wrote in college. But if you put up a white Russian puppet cocaine addict, there's nothing to see there... nothing could possibly be hidden in his tax returns, anyone who accuses him of groping must be lying, and nothing he says needs to bear any relationship to the truth. All he has to do is repeat "believe me!" 5000 times.