Will Trump be impeached?

[Keith&Co.]

To not tolerate his outrageous incompetence would demonstrate something beginning to approach a pale shade of integrity. Come on, this is the GOP we're talking about.

Not integrity, but self interest. He starts attacking individual GOP members for perceived disloyalty, eventually he'll antagonize enough of them to realize their self-interests cannot be advanced unless they perfectly align with his. If they have needs or wants or goals he doesn't approve of, they're a threat, and will be treated as such.

 

[whichphilosophy]

A judge named "Nixon" as a matter fact.

Votes are the issue. If he's 'guilty' of pissing off enough people in House and Senate, he will be.

I don't think there's any level of Trump-fuckery that can piss them off enough because he's a rubber stamp for them. It's not like he's able to muster the mental faculties to contribute ideas beyond extra crispy or traditional recipe when ordering a bucket of KFC. He's certainly not capable of forming his own policies besides what the average Trump voter is capable of. What that means is that they can put anything in front of his face, use some multi-syllabic words, wait for his eyes to glaze over, and seconds later he's scratching his serial killer signature onto whatever it was they wanted him to sign.

To not tolerate his outrageous incompetence would demonstrate something beginning to approach a pale shade of integrity. Come on, this is the GOP we're talking about.

There is no actual charge of pissing off the House. Judge Walter Louis Nixon, Jr. was impeached by the House of Representatives in 1989 for perjury in front of a grand jury and removed from office. In fact he had been convicted in 1986 of false testimony to a grand jury and sentenced to 5 years in jail. This is a case referred to when impeaching Bill Clinton.

 

[Opoponax]

There is no actual charge of pissing off the House.

There is no actual charge of unicorn rape either.

Now we've both said things everyone already knew.

 

[Keith&Co.]

There is no actual charge of pissing off the House.

There is no actual charge of unicorn rape either.

Now we've both said things everyone already knew.

I don't know that everyone knows that, though.

If they DID impeach Trump for unicorn rape, and had the votes, who would he appeal to? There's no 'higher court' for impeachment proceedings. Sure, in the next election, we'll find out if the voters think that was a good reason, but there's nothing preventing them from deciding that his actions with respect to unicorns (or Congress) (or Land Speculation in the 70's) (or campaign promises) did indeed qualify as a 'High Crime.'

 

[DrZoidberg]

In USA a president doesn't have to have done anything wrong to be impeached. He might have committed a "misdemeanour" and it's the House of Representatives that decide what is a misdemeanour.

Everything in this video are valid excuses to impeach a US president.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

There is no actual charge of pissing off the House.

Andrew Johnson?

 

[horhangi]

Johnson's impeachment charges are primarily for violating the tenure of office act. Though the last one for giving speeches showing disrespect for congress might come close to the charge of pissing off the house.

 

[Elixir]

There is no actual charge of pissing off the House.

You are not listening, or simply want to deny the truth of what you have been told.
Read for comprehension:

No
"charge"
is
required
for
impeachment.

 

[horhangi]

There is no actual charge of pissing off the House.

You are not listening, or simply want to deny the truth of what you have been told.
Read for comprehension:

No
"charge"
is
required
for
impeachment.

Actually a charge is required for impeachment, though the House can make the charge anything they want it to be.

 

[whichphilosophy]

There is no actual charge of pissing off the House.

There is no actual charge of unicorn rape either.

Now we've both said things everyone already knew.

As one Captain Obvious to another agreed. This was answering a raised point.

 

[whichphilosophy]

There is no actual charge of pissing off the House.

You are not listening, or simply want to deny the truth of what you have been told.
Read for comprehension:

No
"charge"
is
required
for
impeachment.

This is simply as laid down in the English language and in Law texts.

As shown below an impeachment is an accusation against a public official before an appropriate tribunal of misconduct in office.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment
Impeachment is the process by which a legislative body formally levels charges against a high official of government. Impeachment does not necessarily mean removal from office; it is only a formal statement of charges, akin to an indictment in criminal law, and is thus only the first step towards removal.

http://thelawdictionary.org/impeachment/
A criminal proceeding against a public officer, before a quasipolitical court, instituted by a written accusation called "articles of impeachment;" forbexample, a written accusation by the house of representatives of the United States to the senate of the United States against an officer



http://thelawdictionary.org/article/impeaching-a-president/
Law Dictionary: What is IMPEACHMENT? definition of IMPEACHMENT (Black's Law Dictionary)

The impeachment process begins with a vote in the House of Representatives on the formal accusation or charge giving rise to the call for impeachment. Impeachment requires a majority vote of the members of the House, but this is just the first step of a two-step process.
A successful impeachment vote by the House is a formal accusation or charge against the president or other official. It does not, however, result in the removal of the person from public office. The second step in the process is a trial in the Senate presided over by the vice president in cases involving any public official other than the president. Presidential impeachment trials are presided over by the chief justice of the U.S. Supreme Court.

A CHARGE IS REQUIRED FOR IMPEACHMENT

 

[whichphilosophy]

Johnson's impeachment charges are primarily for violating the tenure of office act. Though the last one for giving speeches showing disrespect for congress might come close to the charge of pissing off the house.

The attempt to convict was one vote short. The charges were in the realm of high crimes and misdemeanours.

 

[horhangi]

Johnson's impeachment charges are primarily for violating the tenure of office act. Though the last one for giving speeches showing disrespect for congress might come close to the charge of pissing off the house.

The attempt to convict was one vote short. The charges were in the realm of high crimes and misdemeanours.

This is the part you are missing: "high crimes and misdemeanors" mean whatever the House wants them to mean.

 

[fromderinside]

So the investigation goes on. Democrats win the house in 2018. Now, will the EmptyheadhairyTrumpbaby be impeached? If so will it be good for US democracy?

 

[Elixir]

So the investigation goes on. Democrats win the house in 2018. Now, will the EmptyheadhairyTrumpbaby be impeached? If so will it be good for US democracy?

If Dems win the House in '18, then yes, and yes.

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You are not listening, or simply want to deny the truth of what you have been told.
Read for comprehension:

No
"charge"
is
required
for
impeachment.

This is simply as laid down in the English language and in Law texts.

The "charges" don't have to be criminal - but you already knew that if you were paying attention.
GAWD, scientologists are dense!

 

[Keith&Co.]

The attempt to convict was

This is the part you are missing:

And more to the point, JOHNSON WAS IMPEACHED on that article. Conviction was a separate issue from "CAN THEY IMPEACH THE PRESIDENT FOR PISSING OFF CONGRESS?"

 

[whichphilosophy]

The attempt to convict was one vote short. The charges were in the realm of high crimes and misdemeanours.

This is the part you are missing: "high crimes and misdemeanors" mean whatever the House wants them to mean.

High Crimes and Misdemeanours are defined in US statutes and precedent where a 2/3 vote after the proceedings are completed will determine guilt or not. In full the vote will be whether or not treason, bribery, and other high crimes and misdemeanours were committed.

http://www.crf-usa.org/impeachment/high-crimes-and-misdemeanors.html

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This is the part you are missing:

And more to the point, JOHNSON WAS IMPEACHED on that article. Conviction was a separate issue from "CAN THEY IMPEACH THE PRESIDENT FOR PISSING OFF CONGRESS?"

Only if this fell within treason, bribery, and other high crimes and misdemeanours.

 

[whichphilosophy]

If Dems win the House in '18, then yes, and yes.

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You are not listening, or simply want to deny the truth of what you have been told.
Read for comprehension:

No
"charge"
is
required
for
impeachment.

This is simply as laid down in the English language and in Law texts.

The "charges" don't have to be criminal - but you already knew that if you were paying attention.
GAWD, scientologists are dense!

The charges are not criminal but of a political nature. This is in previously quoted materials as the court is not a criminal court. The Senate trial is a political trial not a criminal trial.The reference in the post just before this states this also. Charges apply but they are political ones. Captain Obvious.

 

[Keith&Co.]

And more to the point, JOHNSON WAS IMPEACHED on that article. Conviction was a separate issue from "CAN THEY IMPEACH THE PRESIDENT FOR PISSING OFF CONGRESS?"

Only if this fell within treason, bribery, and other high crimes and misdemeanours.

It (assuming that by 'this' you mean 'CAN THEY IMPEACH THE PRESIDENT FOR PISSING OFF CONGRESS?') falls under 'high crimes and misdemeanors.'

Same as Johnson's impeachment article 10: Making three speeches with intent to show disrespect for the Congress among the citizens of the United States.

 

[whichphilosophy]

Only if this fell within treason, bribery, and other high crimes and misdemeanours.

It (assuming that by 'this' you mean 'CAN THEY IMPEACH THE PRESIDENT FOR PISSING OFF CONGRESS?') falls under 'high crimes and misdemeanors.'

Same as Johnson's impeachment article 10: Making three speeches with intent to show disrespect for the Congress among the citizens of the United States.

He was charged with 11 counts of high crimes and misdemeanours.

There's an interesting Law Lesson here. Page 16 Para 2 (case for conviction) is interesting.

http://www.digitalhistory.uh.edu/teachers/lesson_plans/pdfs/unit6_3.pdf

If Pissing Off congress was a crime, then perhaps Trump may have been impeached before even swearing office.