Woke is white arrogance

[untermensche]

You will find that "woke" is just the latest term from the insane right

It's actually a term from the insane left. It was started by people like this Jezebel writer in the aftermath of Ferguson insurrection.
In the Aftermath of Ferguson, Stay Angry and Stay Woke

That is a use of the term.

I am talking about the present madness from the angry uneducated sheep on the right over the term.

The left has helpful policy like the Green New Deal.

The right has madness and more madness. They are totally under the control of corporate power playing them like puppets.

 

[Derec]

Anecdotal and meaningless.

No, it is not. It is an example of wokeism in academia. By the way, Duquesne University is standing behind this self-hating racist piece of shit.

Here we have a real widespread problem:

What does that have to do with wokeism? There is more than enough discussion on that in the Presidential subforum!

Besides,
Nearly Half Of Democrats Think The 2016 Election Was ‘Rigged’

 

[Derec]

I am talking about the present madness from the angry uneducated sheep on the right over the term.

What about the miseducated woke sheeple on the left?

 

[Derec]

I think that's just an example of definition 1.

No it is not. It is self-hatred, a very dominant trait among the white male wokesters.

 

[untermensche]

Anecdotal and meaningless.

No, it is not. It is an example of wokeism in academia. By the way, Duquesne University is standing behind this self-hating racist piece of shit.

Here we have a real widespread problem:

What does that have to do with wokeism? There is more than enough discussion on that in the Presidential subforum!

Besides,
Nearly Half Of Democrats Think The 2016 Election Was ‘Rigged’

It is anecdotal and meaningless.

It takes an education to understand.

 

[untermensche]

I am talking about the present madness from the angry uneducated sheep on the right over the term.

What about the miseducated woke sheeple on the left?

You mean the scattered and rare individuals?

Meaningless.

Unless you are a lost sheep on the right.

 

[Derec]

Regardless of its merits, Kaepernick's method of protest was poorly chosen. He made it too easy to confuse his message. It upset people even sympathetic to his cause. I can appreciate just wanting to keep any politics out of sports, I was annoyed when Tebow knelt too. If CK did something outside the game instead, he probably would have gotten more support and could have played longer.

This. He is free to protest (no matter how misguided his pro-thug, anti-police cause is), but not while working and wearing his employer's uniform.

 

[Derec]

You mean the scattered and rare individuals?

They are far from scattered and rare, especially in academia and media.

 

[untermensche]

You mean the scattered and rare individuals?

They are far from scattered and rare, especially in academia and media.

You can't name one that didn't appear in your daily talking points from your masters.

 

[Arctish]

I think that's just an example of definition 1.

No it is not. It is self-hatred, a very dominant trait among the white male wokesters.

Did you read the article?

The professor said he think there is merit in the statements of philosopher who argues that " The only way then for white people to become part of Africa is to not exist as white people anymore. If the goal is to dismantle white supremacy, and white supremacy is white culture … then the goal has to be to dismantle white culture and ultimately white people themselves. The total integration into Africa by white people will also automatically then mean the death of white people as white as a concept would not exist anymore,"

The professor finds merit in the view that the concept of 'whiteness' must cease to exist in order for it to no longer be a barrier to white people's full integration in Africa. That's very much in line with the first definition .

Are you proposing that self hatred is an essential component of 'woke'?

 

[Derec]

The players were, and are still, being used as props.

Their whole purpose is to entertain the audience. That's why they are being paid millions of dollars.
There is no inherent economic value in people tossing an prolate spheroid around a pitch of astroturf. Without a paying audience, they would not even be paid minimum wage.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Where do you anti-wokesters get all the time for all this virtue signaling?

 

[Derec]

Did you read the article?

Yes. Does not change the fact that the professor is a self-hating racist.

The professor said he think there is merit in the statements of philosopher who argues that " The only way then for white people to become part of Africa is to not exist as white people anymore.

Why should white people, but not anybody else, have to give up their identity?
Let's try this on for size: "The only way then for black people to become part of America (or Europe) is to not exist as black people anymore."

If the goal is to dismantle white supremacy, and white supremacy is white culture

How is this not a racist statement?

… then the goal has to be to dismantle white culture and ultimately white people themselves.

An inherently racist statement. Note that they are not saying to dismantle the concept of race. No, they are singling out white people for "dismantlement". That is racist.

The professor finds merit in the view that the concept of 'whiteness' must cease to exist in order for it to no longer be a barrier to white people's full integration in Africa. There's no self hatred in that. But if you think there is, are you proposing that as a definition of 'woke'?

It is completely self-hating and racist, as is his violent language about "castration of whiteness". That you defend this shows how extreme you yourself are on race issues.

 

[Derec]

You can't name one that didn't appear in your daily talking points from your masters.

Unlike you, I do not have any masters.

 

[untermensche]

You can't name one that didn't appear in your daily talking points from your masters.

Unlike you, I do not have any masters.

You are a clueless sheep.

Crying about this big nothing "woke" when ordered by your masters.

 

[laughing dog]

Okay, everyone. It's time we figured out exactly what 'Woke' means because we now have at least 4 definitions being used.

Anyone want to submit another definition or refine one of the above?

Whatever this guy is.

Pennsylvania professor teaches White people committing suicide can be an 'ethical' act

I read the article and that is inaccurate.

In the lecture, which was presented to Baltimore-based American Association for Psychoanalysis in Clinical Social Work in June, Hook quoted a South African philosophy professor, Terblanche Delport, who has written about White people committing suicide in South Africa, before further discussing the comments and arguing "there was something ethical in Delport’s statements."

That does not mean that White people committing suicide can be an ethical act.

In fact, the Fox news item goes to later to report

After reading the quotes, Hook said, "I want to suggest that psychoanalytically we could even make the argument that there was something ethical in Delport’s statements."

which makes it clear that Hook was not advocating what you claim.

Furthermore, Professor Hook is not interested in "the castration of whiteness". From your link

"I think that Delport took his White audience to the threshold of a type of symbolic extinction … he took them to a proposed end of whiteness," Hook said, adding that Delport "offered his White audience the opportunity to" contemplate "the castration of whiteness."

It is clear that the phrase "the castration of whiteness" is Professor Delport (who is in South Africa and who was speaking to a South African audience about South Africa).

Your entire response is a complete misrepresentation of the content of your linked article.

 

[Arctish]

Yes. Does not change the fact that the professor is a self-hating racist.



Why should white people, but not anybody else, have to give up their identity?
Let's try this on for size: "The only way then for black people to become part of America (or Europe) is to not exist as black people anymore."

If the goal is to dismantle white supremacy, and white supremacy is white culture

How is this not a racist statement?

… then the goal has to be to dismantle white culture and ultimately white people themselves.

An inherently racist statement. Note that they are not saying to dismantle the concept of race. No, they are singling out white people for "dismantlement". That is racist.

The professor finds merit in the view that the concept of 'whiteness' must cease to exist in order for it to no longer be a barrier to white people's full integration in Africa. There's no self hatred in that. But if you think there is, are you proposing that as a definition of 'woke'?

It is completely self-hating and racist, as is his violent language about "castration of whiteness". That you defend this shows how extreme you yourself are on race issues.

You're getting off track. I'm collecting definitions of 'woke'.

Do you believe that self hatred is an essential component of being 'woke'? If so, then please say so plainly.

Also, do you think this something that only happens to white people or do you think non-whites who hate themselves are also 'woke'? Is violent language an essential component or just one possible indication of 'wokeness' ?

What is the definition you're using?

 

[untermensche]

I read the article and that is inaccurate.

In the lecture, which was presented to Baltimore-based American Association for Psychoanalysis in Clinical Social Work in June, Hook quoted a South African philosophy professor, Terblanche Delport, who has written about White people committing suicide in South Africa, before further discussing the comments and arguing "there was something ethical in Delport’s statements."

That does not mean that White people committing suicide can be an ethical act.

In fact, the Fox news item goes to later to report

After reading the quotes, Hook said, "I want to suggest that psychoanalytically we could even make the argument that there was something ethical in Delport’s statements."

which makes it clear that Hook was not advocating what you claim.

Furthermore, Professor Hook is not interested in "the castration of whiteness". From your link

"I think that Delport took his White audience to the threshold of a type of symbolic extinction … he took them to a proposed end of whiteness," Hook said, adding that Delport "offered his White audience the opportunity to" contemplate "the castration of whiteness."

It is clear that the phrase "the castration of whiteness" is Professor Delport (who is in South Africa and who was speaking to a South African audience about South Africa).

Your entire response is a complete misrepresentation of the content of your linked article.

You will find when you actually look at the facts there is absolutely nothing to this latest insanity from the lockstep herd on the right called "woke".

 

[Derec]

I honestly wonder when people like TomC will realize that they are the minority. the NFL will do just fine because the Majority of their white fan base doesn't have an issue with social justice.

More un-woke people of all races need to stop watching the NFL until things change. You call it "social justice", but there is nothing "just" or even "social" about the NFL glorifying an armed thug like Draesjon Reed.





This is not just about Kaep.

 

[Derec]

Do you believe that self hatred is an essential component of being 'woke'? If so, then please say so plainly.

Perhaps not essential, but still a very common trait among white wokesters.

Also, do you think this something that only happens to white people or do you think non-whites who hate themselves are also 'woke'?

Woke non-whites are usually supremacists for their race.

Is violent language an essential component or just one possible indication of 'wokeness' ?

It is not essential, but it is not rare either.