Women's Studies Must Die

[GenesisNemesis]

sorry I got it from Milo Yianoppoulis' twitter stream.

"He is the technology editor for Breitbart.com, a conservative news and opinion website based in the United States."

Why am I not surprised?

 

[Nice Squirrel]

From her facebook profile I see nothing wrong with her and she seems like a daughter I'd be proud to have.

 

[KeepTalking]

From her facebook profile I see nothing wrong with her and she seems like a daughter I'd be proud to have.

But, she got a nose ring, and cut her hair. That is the kind of shit that happens when you let yer daughters go to college take them Wimmen Studies courses.

 

[ronburgundy]

Hold up, are y'all saying feminism shouldn't be taught about in school? Cause that's ridiculous.

I think the point is that gender/women's studies should not be taught with the pretense that it is a legitimate field of intellectual inquiry, but rather taught the same way that the politically motivated ideological views about gender and sexuality held by religious fundamentalists are taught.

 

[J842P]

I don't have a problem with social and cultural studies per se, I just disagree with the current paradigms, and my impression is that plenty of these departments are echo chambers mired in post-structuralist, post-modernist nonsense, which has affected (I would say infected) a lot of the humanities in general. Essentially, I see continental philosophy like Hitchens saw religion: it poisons everything. "Critical theory" is the worst of the lot.

Hell, you can now get a PhD in just "Theory."

 

[Derec]

Hell, you can now get a PhD in just "Theory."

Sounds like one of those Community night school courses

Theoretical Phys Ed is probably my favorite.

 

[Keith&Co.]

From her facebook profile I see nothing wrong with her and she seems like a daughter I'd be proud to have.

But, she got a nose ring, and cut her hair. That is the kind of shit that happens when you let yer daughters go to college take them Wimmen Studies courses.

My sons hit college, have experimented with hair styles, wines and other intoxicants; have tattoos, piercings in nose, eyebrows, ears; and have sometimes worn their hats on backwards to look stupid.



But I don't think that any of them took a women's studies course...

So maybe something else is the issue, here? Just maybe?

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

You can take Gym as a class in college... oh but if women's studies is offered, that is reverse misogynism!

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Hold up, are y'all saying feminism shouldn't be taught about in school? Cause that's ridiculous.

I think the point is that gender/women's studies should not be taught with the pretense that it is a legitimate field of intellectual inquiry...

Like economics.

Sorry ld.

 

[KeepTalking]

But I don't think that any of them took a women's studies course...

Can you be sure? I mean, it's a great place to pick up chicks...

 

[ronburgundy]

You can take Gym as a class in college... oh but if women's studies is offered, that is reverse misogynism!

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I think the point is that gender/women's studies should not be taught with the pretense that it is a legitimate field of intellectual inquiry...

Like economics.

Sorry ld.

No, far worse than economics.

The issue is that legit questions related to gender that are approached with legit methods are already part of various departments which are more general but encompass a subset of questions related to gender (e.g., biology, psychology, sociology, political science, economics, etc..). Being approached within these disciplines subjects theorists to the same methodological scrutiny and empirical standards that any other topic within those disciplines is subject to. Most academics within women's studies programs are not trained in each of these various relevant disciplinary methods, but rather in none of them.

Getting a degree in such departments rarely requires ever taking a course that focuses upon learning empirical or statistical methods for testing theories. In contrast degrees in the legit disciplines within which gender related issues can be and are studied do require courses in empirical methods and statistical analyses of data.
At the University of Illinois at Chicago the gender and women's studies department does not require nor even offer a single course related to empirical methodology or statistical analyses used to evaluate the mountain of theories students are fed in the 70 courses that this department does offer. about how the mountain of theories they are fed in other courses ever get rationally evaluated. In contrast, an economics degree at the same institution requires that 3 of the 7 core required courses be on research methodology and statistical analyses directly relevant to evaluating economic theories.

Gender studies pays no attention to empirical methods and statistics because it is in no way a social science or a legit discipline of honest inquiry. It is a psuedo-intellectual and often hostile to actual science religion.

 

[Juma]

Do you want this to happen to your daughter?!?

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Why not?

 

[laughing dog]

You can take Gym as a class in college... oh but if women's studies is offered, that is reverse misogynism!

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I think the point is that gender/women's studies should not be taught with the pretense that it is a legitimate field of intellectual inquiry...

Like economics.

Sorry ld.

Nah, it's not like economics hasn't shot its disciplinary feet many a time.

 

[ronburgundy]

You can take Gym as a class in college... oh but if women's studies is offered, that is reverse misogynism!

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Like economics.

Sorry ld.

Nah, it's not like economics hasn't shot its disciplinary feet many a time.

Being wrong and making errors in the analysis of data is not the same as never even bothering to analyze any data to test whether you are right (and the latter is what most published proclamations (it isn't research) coming from gender studies programs amounts to.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

You can take Gym as a class in college... oh but if women's studies is offered, that is reverse misogynism!

A gym class in college? I don't recall any--all college-level PE classes were more specific than that. I even took a couple where the entirety of the class was an overnight or three-day hike to someplace some miles from the trailhead. (In as much as PE is a class at all this was actually reasonable--the time involved was similar to or even longer than a typical college class, it's just it was all done in one block rather than spread over the semester.)

 

[Angry Floof]

 

[GenesisNemesis]

Gender studies pays no attention to empirical methods and statistics because it is in no way a social science or a legit discipline of honest inquiry. It is a psuedo-intellectual and often hostile to actual science religion.

Can you give some examples of the pseudo-intellectualism? Other than Anita Sarkeesian. I would like concrete evidence that the current conception of women's studies is problematic. Articles about students wanting "safe spaces" are not concrete evidence either. What is it about the courses themselves? As of right now, your claim is simply a just-so story.

 

[rousseau]

Starting to regret the donation I just made to this place.

 

[Angry Floof]

Gender studies pays no attention to empirical methods and statistics because it is in no way a social science or a legit discipline of honest inquiry. It is a psuedo-intellectual and often hostile to actual science religion.

Can you give some examples of the pseudo-intellectualism? Other than Anita Sarkeesian. I would like concrete evidence that the current conception of women's studies is problematic. Articles about students wanting "safe spaces" are not concrete evidence either. What is it about the courses themselves? As of right now, your claim is simply a just-so story.

It's too many vaginas in one place doing something other than taking care of men and kids, in fact only doing vagina related things specifically and not much else.

That is scary. You want to talk about breaking up banks? Well, try breaking up Big Vagina!!!!11!!

 

[rousseau]

A lot of the liberal leaning humanities courses have always struck me as a bit pseudo-sciency, but that's because they're almost completely new disciplines. The origins of philosophy and science go back a long way, but the idea that women, homosexuals, people of colour etc exist somewhere in a power dynamic and that we'd benefit by understanding that dynamic is a relatively new one.

That doesn't mean that women's studies should die, that means we should continue to refine it's theories until it's not pseudo-sciency.

 

[whichphilosophy]

This is a great video in a series of videos...

What does she mean by queer? Who defines truth.