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WPA2 flaw found. Your WiFi security is now next to worthless

 
 
 
Underseer said:
It's it the access point and not the end point that is vulnerable? Because none of my Android devices have psyched yet, and my router already is.
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EPs are certainly vulnerable to Krack (until patched). APs can be vulnerable, but aren't necessarily so... Yeah, the non-Apple phone makers are being pretty uncommunicative about this... At this point I certainly wouldn't use public APs for my smartphone over the 4G service.
 
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funinspace said:
Underseer said:
It's it the access point and not the end point that is vulnerable? Because none of my Android devices have psyched yet, and my router already is.
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EPs are certainly vulnerable to Krack (until patched). APs can be vulnerable, but aren't necessarily so... Yeah, the non-Apple phone makers are being pretty uncommunicative about this... At this point I certainly wouldn't use public APs for my smartphone over the 4G service.
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Thanks for the clarification.
 
funinspace said:
Google joined the fixed group for their Android smartphones:
https://www.neowin.net/news/google-...ndroid-patch-for-the-krack-wpa2-vulnerability

Apple has their patches out for phones and Macs:
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/201...-and-ios-11-1-with-a-krack-fix-and-new-emoji/

As for all the other smartphones like my Samsung Android...zzzzzz eventually....
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This is the disadvantage of the Android platform right here.

Google has a fix out, so now I have to wait for Samsung to make a patch because they felt the need to customize the OS. Once Samsung makes a patch, then I have to wait for my cell phone carrier to make a patch because they also felt the need to add customization to what Samsung did.

It's going to be a long time before I see a patch for this, and I may never see a patch. All because some suit-wearing idiots learned some bullshit about "value added" crap in business school.
 
Underseer said:
funinspace said:
Google joined the fixed group for their Android smartphones:
https://www.neowin.net/news/google-...ndroid-patch-for-the-krack-wpa2-vulnerability

Apple has their patches out for phones and Macs:
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/201...-and-ios-11-1-with-a-krack-fix-and-new-emoji/

As for all the other smartphones like my Samsung Android...zzzzzz eventually....
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This is the disadvantage of the Android platform right here.

Google has a fix out, so now I have to wait for Samsung to make a patch because they felt the need to customize the OS. Once Samsung makes a patch, then I have to wait for my cell phone carrier to make a patch because they also felt the need to add customization to what Samsung did.

It's going to be a long time before I see a patch for this, and I may never see a patch. All because some suit-wearing idiots learned some bullshit about "value added" crap in business school.
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Well the smaller the carrier and the smaller the phone maker, ones odds of getting a patch soon will probably diminish. Samsung/Verizon-ATT will probably get to it in the next month...ish.

But yeah if you have US Cellular with a Huawei smartphone...good luck.
 
funinspace said:
Underseer said:
This is the disadvantage of the Android platform right here.

Google has a fix out, so now I have to wait for Samsung to make a patch because they felt the need to customize the OS. Once Samsung makes a patch, then I have to wait for my cell phone carrier to make a patch because they also felt the need to add customization to what Samsung did.

It's going to be a long time before I see a patch for this, and I may never see a patch. All because some suit-wearing idiots learned some bullshit about "value added" crap in business school.
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Well the smaller the carrier and the smaller the phone maker, ones odds of getting a patch soon will probably diminish. Samsung/Verizon-ATT will probably get to it in the next month...ish.

But yeah if you have US Cellular with a Huawei smartphone...good luck.
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But even if you're at a larger cell network, the wait for patches can be interminable because you have to wait for 3 separate entities to make a patch. Many times, cell carriers will decide to patch only the newest and latest phones, so you may never see a patch at all depending on what model phone you have.
 
Apple have released a patch - for iOS11. If, like me, you have an iPhone5, then you are out of luck - Apple's philosophy is that you need to throw away their products every few years and buy new ones, so if you have a perfectly good phone that you have no intention of replacing, then you just have to put up with it remaining vulnerable to such attacks.

I could 'upgrade' from a phone that does absolutely everything I want (except get patches for the latest security flaws built into it by its manufacturer), to a new phone that has no headphone jack, and that I therefore cannot use in my seven year old car. But I really don't think I should have to buy a new car because Apple don't feel like maintaining their software.

It's a great business model. :rolleyes:
 
bilby said:
Apple have released a patch - for iOS11. If, like me, you have an iPhone5, then you are out of luck - Apple's philosophy is that you need to throw away their products every few years and buy new ones, so if you have a perfectly good phone that you have no intention of replacing, then you just have to put up with it remaining vulnerable to such attacks.

I could 'upgrade' from a phone that does absolutely everything I want (except get patches for the latest security flaws built into it by its manufacturer), to a new phone that has no headphone jack, and that I therefore cannot use in my seven year old car. But I really don't think I should have to buy a new car because Apple don't feel like maintaining their software.

It's a great business model. :rolleyes:
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Apple's famous walled garden has its own flaws to be sure.

The thing is, if you have a Samsung phone on Europe, you get the patch as soon as Samsung releases it because those cell networks don't add any custom software, but if you have a Samsung phone in America, even the newest phones would still be waiting for the patch, and sometimes a phone much younger than yours is considered too old for the cell carrier to bother issuing a patch for.

Maybe my next phone should be a Nexus/Pixel phone.
 
I bought my S4 second hand and replaced the OS immediately. I didn't have a choice--the Samsung OS was locked to Vodafone--but I would have done it anyway because (1) I've always disliked Samsung's bloated custom Android, and (2) My carrier has always been extremely slow to roll out upgrades.

So rather than waiting for my carrier to roll out a patch--which may never happen--I will just be upgrading to a recent nightly of LineageOS.
 
bigfield said:
I bought my S4 second hand and replaced the OS immediately. I didn't have a choice--the Samsung OS was locked to Vodafone--but I would have done it anyway because (1) I've always disliked Samsung's bloated custom Android, and (2) My carrier has always been extremely slow to roll out upgrades.

So rather than waiting for my carrier to roll out a patch--which may never happen--I will just be upgrading to a recent nightly of LineageOS.
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Rooting is starting to look better and better.
 
Underseer said:
bigfield said:
I bought my S4 second hand and replaced the OS immediately. I didn't have a choice--the Samsung OS was locked to Vodafone--but I would have done it anyway because (1) I've always disliked Samsung's bloated custom Android, and (2) My carrier has always been extremely slow to roll out upgrades.

So rather than waiting for my carrier to roll out a patch--which may never happen--I will just be upgrading to a recent nightly of LineageOS.
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Rooting is starting to look better and better.
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No Australian would disagree.
 
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