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Christianity Really Sucks

That is deeply harmful. I hope there is a secular way to bring them to justice.
 
It is not confined to Christian colleges and universities. Dimissing sexual assault on campus is an ongoing problem. I think federal law says schools have to report sexual assault, but from reporting it does not always happen.

Allso admistraors or even student bodes can rule on it and hand out punishmeny for allegations. Police never hear pf it.
 
It is not confined to Christian colleges and universities. Dimissing sexual assault on campus is an ongoing problem. I think federal law says schools have to report sexual assault, but from reporting it does not always happen.
I probably shouldn't be writing a word about it, but..

At a certain college campus where I may or may not work, the Title IX coordinator - ie., the person whose job and sole responsibility it is to ensure that these things get reported - is reportedly currently under investigation for allegedly harassing a student when she contacted him to ask for help. I'm livid.

I can't picture something like what's described in the article happening at a secular college, though. I mean, the student is at least being taken seriously now, and the incident investigated. If these allegations are true, Visible is trying to actively enforce a code of morality that destroys student lives instead of helping them.

On the other hand, it could be argued that the federal government is also responsible here. The college isn't lying about not having an obligation to report allegations of off-campus rape, the colleges have in fact been forbidden to do so ever since Trump "revised" (read: intentionally eviscerated) the enforcement of Title IX legislation in 2020.
 
Secular school faculty are all pure of heart?

One of the biggest sex abuse scandals was a decades long cover up at Penn State of sexual abuse by a coach of football players. The cover up went all tye way up to tthe president.

To the OP a private school is free to set conditions of attendance. I don't see much controversy in the link.


The Penn State child sex abuse scandal concerned allegations and subsequent convictions of child sexual abuse committed by Jerry Sandusky, an assistant coach for the Penn State Nittany Lions football team, over a period of at least fifteen years. The scandal began to emerge publicly in March 2011 and broke in early November 2011 when Sandusky was indicted on 52 counts of child molestation, stemming from incidents that occurred between 1994 and 2009.[1] Sandusky was ultimately convicted on 45 counts of child sexual abuse on June 22, 2012,[2] and was sentenced to a minimum of 30 years and a maximum of 60 years in prison.[3]

Additionally, three Penn State officials – school president Graham Spanier, vice president Gary Schultz and athletic director Tim Curley – were charged with perjury, obstruction of justice, failure to report suspected child abuse, and related charges.[4] The Penn State Board of Trustees commissioned an independent investigation by former FBI Director Louis Freeh, whose report stated that Penn State's longtime head football coach Joe Paterno, along with Spanier, Curley and Schultz, had known about allegations of child abuse by Sandusky as early as 1998, had shown "total and consistent disregard...for the safety and welfare of Sandusky's child victims", and "empowered" Sandusky to continue his acts of abuse by failing to disclose them.[5]: 14 [6][7] Shortly after the scandal broke, Spanier resigned. The Board of Trustees terminated the contracts of Paterno and Curley.

As a result of the scandal, the National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) imposed sanctions on the Penn State football program: a $60 million fine, a four-year postseason ban, scholarship reductions, and a vacation of all victories from 1998 to 2011.[8] These sanctions were considered to be among the most severe ever imposed on an NCAA member school. NCAA President Mark Emmert stated that the sanctions were levied "not to be just punitive, but to make sure the university establishes an athletic culture and daily mindset in which football will never again be placed ahead of educating, nurturing and protecting young people."[9][10] The Big Ten Conference subsequently imposed an additional $13 million fine.[11]

The Paterno family retained former Attorney General Richard Thornburgh to conduct a review of the Freeh report, which concluded that the report constituted a "rush to injustice" that could not be relied upon[12][13] and that Freeh's evidence fell "far short" of showing that Joe Paterno attempted to conceal the scandal, but rather that "the contrary is true".[13] In January 2013, state senator Jake Corman and state treasurer Rob McCord sued the NCAA, seeking to overturn the Penn State sanctions on the basis that Freeh had been actively collaborating with the organization and that due process had not been followed. In November 2014, Corman released emails showing "regular and substantive" contact between Freeh's investigators and the NCAA, suggesting that Freeh's conclusions were orchestrated.[14] As part of a settlement, the NCAA restored the 111 wins to Paterno's record on January 16, 2015.[15][10]

On March 25, 2017, Curley, Schultz, and Spanier pleaded or were found guilty of misdemeanor charges of child endangerment.[16] All conspiracy charges against Curley and Schultz were dropped, and Spanier was acquitted of conspiracy, the charges central to Louis Freeh's allegation of a cover-up.[17][18] In June 2017, all three were sentenced to jail terms, fines, and probation for the misdemeanors.[19] Spanier was sentenced to four to twelve months in jail, a $7,500 fine, and two years of probation.[20] Spanier's misdemeanor conviction was overturned by the federal district court, but reinstated by the court of appeals in December 2020.[21][22]
 
Secular school faculty are all pure of heart?

One of the biggest sex abuse scandals was a decades long cover up at Penn State of sexual abuse by a coach of football players. The cover up went all tye way up to tthe president.

To the OP a private school is free to set conditions of attendance. I don't see much controversy in the link.


The Penn State child sex abuse scandal concerned allegations and subsequent convictions of child sexual abuse committed by Jerry Sandusky, an assistant coach for the Penn State Nittany Lions football team, over a period of at least fifteen years. The scandal began to emerge publicly in March 2011 and broke in early November 2011 when Sandusky was indicted on 52 counts of child molestation, stemming from incidents that occurred between 1994 and 2009.[1] Sandusky was ultimately convicted on 45 counts of child sexual abuse on June 22, 2012,[2] and was sentenced to a minimum of 30 years and a maximum of 60 years in prison.[3]

Additionally, three Penn State officials – school president Graham Spanier, vice president Gary Schultz and athletic director Tim Curley – were charged with perjury, obstruction of justice, failure to report suspected child abuse, and related charges.[4] The Penn State Board of Trustees commissioned an independent investigation by former FBI Director Louis Freeh, whose report stated that Penn State's longtime head football coach Joe Paterno, along with Spanier, Curley and Schultz, had known about allegations of child abuse by Sandusky as early as 1998, had shown "total and consistent disregard...for the safety and welfare of Sandusky's child victims", and "empowered" Sandusky to continue his acts of abuse by failing to disclose them.[5]: 14 [6][7] Shortly after the scandal broke, Spanier resigned. The Board of Trustees terminated the contracts of Paterno and Curley.

As a result of the scandal, the National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) imposed sanctions on the Penn State football program: a $60 million fine, a four-year postseason ban, scholarship reductions, and a vacation of all victories from 1998 to 2011.[8] These sanctions were considered to be among the most severe ever imposed on an NCAA member school. NCAA President Mark Emmert stated that the sanctions were levied "not to be just punitive, but to make sure the university establishes an athletic culture and daily mindset in which football will never again be placed ahead of educating, nurturing and protecting young people."[9][10] The Big Ten Conference subsequently imposed an additional $13 million fine.[11]

The Paterno family retained former Attorney General Richard Thornburgh to conduct a review of the Freeh report, which concluded that the report constituted a "rush to injustice" that could not be relied upon[12][13] and that Freeh's evidence fell "far short" of showing that Joe Paterno attempted to conceal the scandal, but rather that "the contrary is true".[13] In January 2013, state senator Jake Corman and state treasurer Rob McCord sued the NCAA, seeking to overturn the Penn State sanctions on the basis that Freeh had been actively collaborating with the organization and that due process had not been followed. In November 2014, Corman released emails showing "regular and substantive" contact between Freeh's investigators and the NCAA, suggesting that Freeh's conclusions were orchestrated.[14] As part of a settlement, the NCAA restored the 111 wins to Paterno's record on January 16, 2015.[15][10]

On March 25, 2017, Curley, Schultz, and Spanier pleaded or were found guilty of misdemeanor charges of child endangerment.[16] All conspiracy charges against Curley and Schultz were dropped, and Spanier was acquitted of conspiracy, the charges central to Louis Freeh's allegation of a cover-up.[17][18] In June 2017, all three were sentenced to jail terms, fines, and probation for the misdemeanors.[19] Spanier was sentenced to four to twelve months in jail, a $7,500 fine, and two years of probation.[20] Spanier's misdemeanor conviction was overturned by the federal district court, but reinstated by the court of appeals in December 2020.[21][22]
There is a Netfix series about this. It is harrowing watching.
 
It is just as bad the RCC.
I expect not. The Penn State thing was one guy of inordinate power getting away with it because of his individual inordinate power AFAIK.

The RCC is layers of shuffling of abusers between parishes to keep the names and identities fresh and nigh infinite pools of money and enablers of the same ilk on every side, or enough sides that it's eminently easy to hide and be hidden.
 
It is just as bad the RCC.
I expect not. The Penn State thing was one guy of inordinate power getting away with it because of his individual inordinate power AFAIK.

The RCC is layers of shuffling of abusers between parishes to keep the names and identities fresh and nigh infinite pools of money and enablers of the same ilk on every side, or enough sides that it's eminently easy to hide and be hidden.
It was te same cover up and looking the other way in both cases.

One can carry anti religion too far by trying to say sex abuse in secular institutions is not as bad as the relgious. The staistic quoted was that by prcntage of poulation sex abuse in the RCC may hve been lower than the general population. It was the ongoing coverup.

Athletics with teens is rdlled with sex abuse. Consider the man who as a gymnastics coach and trainer abused young girls for years.
 
It is just as bad the RCC.
I expect not. The Penn State thing was one guy of inordinate power getting away with it because of his individual inordinate power AFAIK.

The RCC is layers of shuffling of abusers between parishes to keep the names and identities fresh and nigh infinite pools of money and enablers of the same ilk on every side, or enough sides that it's eminently easy to hide and be hidden.
It was te same cover up and looking the other way in both cases.

One can carry anti religion too far by trying to say sex abuse in secular institutions is not as bad as the relgious. The staistic quoted was that by prcntage of poulation sex abuse in the RCC may hve been lower than the general population. It was the ongoing coverup.

Athletics with teens is rdlled with sex abuse. Consider the man who as a gymnastics coach and trainer abused young girls for years.
I recognize it happens and it's bad, it's just a lot harder as such a person to pick up shop, disappear, and abuse elsewhere under that generic name like "Father Paul" in the public education system..
 
From reporting there are teachers with a history of sex abuse who do manage to find jobs elsewhere.

It is endemic to culture.

The Boy Scouts sex abuse scandal. Again like the RCC it became more about the cover up than the crime.

The problem with the RCC is the arrogant position that they are above secular civil law. They had to be coerced and shamed into reporting all claims of abuse to police.
 
I would agree with steve_bank.

The response from authority often seems to be "come on, it was only rape."
 
It does suck.



The internet is a big place. You can find someone, somewhere, saying nearly any stupid things you can think of.

I remember watching a panel of BLM leaders justifying the looting at demonstrations as reparations. I didn't find them credible as representatives of all BLM supporters.
Tom
 
That's true but those homophobe ideas are legitimately in their Bible. The more fundamentalist or traditional a sect is, the more homophobic it is.
 
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