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The Global Warming Fraud


Folks, we should get together with the administrators and mods, and have a serious talk about shutting down this forum for good. I mean, we've been unfortunate enough to have the most educated, competent scientist in the entire world grace us with his presence and superior knowledge.

Your words, not mine. You gang up on a new member like an angry pack of wild dogs, and when he stands up to your bullying, you snivel. I've been maliciously attacked as ignorant, and I am anything but. Your ignorance does show, however and I'm calling you on it

You atheists never shut up. You shut non-atheists up with your relentless ridiculing, pretentiousness, and claims of intellectual superiority. I threw it back at one of you with a challenge. Obviously I touched a nerve. About time someone did.
If you think being asked for recent scientific citations to back up your claims is being bullied then you likely won’t enjoy being on this board.

And I don’t see how atheism has anything to do with this discussion of global warming.
 

Folks, we should get together with the administrators and mods, and have a serious talk about shutting down this forum for good. I mean, we've been unfortunate enough to have the most educated, competent scientist in the entire world grace us with his presence and superior knowledge.

Your words, not mine. You gang up on a new member like an angry pack of wild dogs, and when he stands up to your bullying, you snivel. I've been maliciously attacked as ignorant, and I am anything but. Your ignorance does show, however and I'm calling you on it

You atheists never shut up. You shut non-atheists up with your relentless ridiculing, pretentiousness, and claims of intellectual superiority. I threw it back at one of you with a challenge. Obviously I touched a nerve. About time someone did.
Yeah. We come to your discussion board, arrogantly demanding that you...

Oh, wait.

Shit.
 
Even with a small increase in ocean temperture when a cold front enters warmer air rises fast increasing storm intensity.

Utter tosh. Even the IPCC acknowledges there has been no increase in frequency or intensity in storms.

I don’t take anything you or your fellow cultists say seriously. I’m not convinced you (and others) believe the bullshit you post either.

Rain delay in Dodgers v Padres game, GLOBAL WARMING!!!111!!!!
 
Even with a small increase in ocean temperture when a cold front enters warmer air rises fast increasing storm intensity.

Utter tosh. Even the IPCC acknowledges there has been no increase in frequency or intensity in storms.

I don’t take anything you or your fellow cultists say seriously. I’m not convinced you (and others) believe the bullshit you post either.

Rain delay in Dodgers v Padres game, GLOBAL WARMING!!!111!!!!
Orgasmic, almost a sexual release.

The effects of global warming are evident. How bad it gets 50 or 100 yeras from now no one knows for sure.

Here in Seattle its the16th inning Seattle 0 Houston 0. It is clear skies but we have a lot of smoke from fire seasons now running almost continually, fueled by rising temperatures. The climate is tinging in Seattle. Long term residents amd those born here and are older see it. I have been here for 30 years and I see it.

In Portland the Willamette River used to freeze hard enough for preople to drive cars on it.

Rising river and stream temperatures frm the NW to Aalska are lowering O2 in the water. Spawning salmon are literally suffocating. Salmon is a mjor global food sor and protein source.

Rising ocean temperatures are threatening coral reefs at the bottom of the ocean marine life food cga hin. Upset the oceam ecosyem and ultimat;y it affects human survival. If nohting else O2 generation.

Like I said, I feel sorry for the science illiterates. Ignorant of science and the ecosystem we live in and depend on.



Average hurricanes

1900-1917 4.06
2000 - 2017 7.33

To be more thorough I'd do an autorgressibe moving avergae through thr entire record and plot that.

I am not going to take the time to read your links and figure out where it comes from and how you are interpreting.
 
Astros sweep the Mariners, must be global warming. Is there anything you won’t blame on global warming? Probably not. You want it to be global warming because it’s a religion for you. You’re every bit as bad as flat earthers.
 
Astros sweep the Mariners, must be global warming. Is there anything you won’t blame on global warming? Probably not. You want it to be global warming because it’s a religion for you. You’re every bit as bad as flat earthers.
Is there anything you won't blame on Hunter Biden's laptop?
 
Astros sweep the Mariners, must be global warming. Is there anything you won’t blame on global warming? Probably not. You want it to be global warming because it’s a religion for you. You’re every bit as bad as flat earthers.
I have no idea what you and the other guy are trying to accomplish on the thread.

It does not matter what you or I think. Climate change is measurably and observationally upon us. Young kids today are the ones who will be facing worsening conditions.

Even if greenhouse gases net away today climate patterns are not going to go back to where they were. Polar ice will not reestablish itself.

The majority of humans live on a coast. Ports and shipping will be affected.

A basic question. Do you know where the oxygen you brethe comes from? High school biology. You can look it up on the net.

I did not watch the gane, I listened on the radio. The fanat the game got their money's worth and more. They lost because Houston is a better team.
 
Storms and climate are driven by differences in heat. Thunderstorms are a boundary between hot and cold air. Same with ocean storms.,increase the ocean heat and storms get stronger.

We call this weather fella.

An end of times, rapture like cult.
Of course thunderstorms are weather, not climate. They are driven by climate, though.
 

The average concentration of atmospheric water vapor is 1.5% or 15,000 ppmv.
After rainfall, it does not go to 0 ppmv. You claim scientific knowledge and superiority?

You missed the point. The H2O capacity of the atmosphere is a function of temperature. It's impossible to put more in the air on a sustained basis. It's very relevant to calculating the effects but it is not a primary cause.

No, YOU miss the point, intentionally. 1.3 ppmv increase on a basis of 15,400 ppmv is insignificant, particularly when only 3% of that trivial amount is anthropogenic. Refusing to look at evidence does not help your understanding or argument. Moreover, carbon dioxide LAGS temperature by hundreds of years, as explained by climate scientist in his book Unstoppable Global Warming Every 1500 Years

Every 1500 years? Then why are we seeing glaciers disappear that had more than 1500 years worth of ice in them? Glaciers are like trees--annual layers. You can count them--and it's often done to know the age of trapped air that can be analyzed to learn things about the past. While it's possible for something to remove an ice layer nothing is going to create a fake one, thus glacier layer counts will never be too high. If you see 10,000 layers in the ice then the ice has been there at least 10,000 years.

And you still are completely ignoring the fact that most of that CO2 is a cycle--plant grows, decays or gets eaten. And adding CO2 and H2O makes no sense at all unless your objective is to sow disinformation.
 
Even with a small increase in ocean temperture when a cold front enters warmer air rises fast increasing storm intensity.

Utter tosh. Even the IPCC acknowledges there has been no increase in frequency or intensity in storms.

I don’t take anything you or your fellow cultists say seriously. I’m not convinced you (and others) believe the bullshit you post either.

Rain delay in Dodgers v Padres game, GLOBAL WARMING!!!111!!!!
Something you need to understand about scientific data: It always has some degree of uncertainty. In common usage we might say that piece of wood is 24 inches long--but when you're cutting a bunch of them you very much care how precisely 24" they are. My former boss bugged many a manufacturer with wanting chop saws that would cut that 24 inches to within 1/64th of an inch of accuracy. At the time at least (it's been 15 years since I have had any reason to deal directly with the equipment and thus keep up with improvements) that was beyond the capability of most of the chop saws on the market--most companies handled it by cutting too long on the chop saws and then a second cutting step to even them up. We used the pieces directly off the chop saws, no second cut.

The noisier the data is (and storm data is very noisy) the wider your error margins must be--and standard scientific protocol is if your error margins (typically, 95% confidence interval) include the null you must report it as no effect. That doesn't mean it actually is no effect.
 
Astros sweep the Mariners, must be global warming. Is there anything you won’t blame on global warming? Probably not. You want it to be global warming because it’s a religion for you. You’re every bit as bad as flat earthers.
I have no idea what you and the other guy are trying to accomplish on the thread.
They’re probably just here for the arguing.
 
No, YOU miss the point, intentionally. 1.3 ppmv increase on a basis of 15,400 ppmv is insignificant, particularly when only 3% of that trivial amount is anthropogenic. Refusing to look at evidence does not help your understanding or argument. Moreover, carbon dioxide LAGS temperature by hundreds of years, as explained by climate scientist in his book Unstoppable Global Warming Every 1500 Years
Climate scientists all agree that the climate has always changed. Obviously the climate changes without any contribution from human industry, because there was no large scale human industrial activity before the 20th century, and no human industry at all before the last glaciation.

Climate scientists all agree that CO2 lags temperature, but not this time around. In the past, global warming and cooling were triggered by events other than a sudden increase in atmospheric CO2. For instance, volcano eruptions can cause warming by reducing the albedo of snow, and Milankovitch cycles cause the planet to warming and cool. In these situations CO2 will rise after warming has already started. This time around, however, the planet has a new source of atmospheric CO2, human industry, that never existed before, which means that atmospheric CO2 is now able to be the initial source to climate forcing.

That's all pretty obvious, though.

Singer, like some other "skeptics" such as Svensmark, argues that our present warming is caused by increases in solar irradiance. However, if solar irradiance was the dominant source of climate forcing, then we should have seen global temperatures drop as we go through each minimum of the 11-year solar cycle. Instead we have gone several decades without any global cooling. Singer grasps at straws by attributing the current warming to Bond cycles, but these cycles are relatively weak and can't possibly account for the magnitude of present warming.

That's the common theme with these deniers: they claim that the evidence for anthropogenic global warming is dubious and then they marry themselves to these shoddy alternative theories. It is pretty obvious that climate "skepticism" has nothing to do with scientific standards and everything to do with politics.
 
Let's see how he is at arithmetic.
Moreover this is the TOTAL increase in atmospheric carbon dioxide, 96+% of which is produced by decomposing plants and animals.

On the Scary Graph we see CO2 increasing by 70 ppmv over a 50-year period.

96% of 70 ppmv is 67.2 ppmv. Is it your claim that the rise over the same period would have been 67 ppmv even WITHOUT mankind's fossil fuel usage?
 
Let's see how he is at arithmetic.
Moreover this is the TOTAL increase in atmospheric carbon dioxide, 96+% of which is produced by decomposing plants and animals.

On the Scary Graph we see CO2 increasing by 70 ppmv over a 50-year period.

96% of 70 ppmv is 67.2 ppmv. Is it your claim that the rise over the same period would have been 67 ppmv even WITHOUT mankind's fossil fuel usage?
Don't put words in my mouth as the Left is wont to do and then giggle.
It is science which states 96+% of CO2 comes from natural sources. Just think of the decomposing biomass all around the world and under the oceans. It is massive.
 
Astros sweep the Mariners, must be global warming. Is there anything you won’t blame on global warming? Probably not. You want it to be global warming because it’s a religion for you. You’re every bit as bad as flat earthers.
I have no idea what you and the other guy are trying to accomplish on the thread.
Teach, enlighten, show. Isn't it obvious? Must we explain EVERYTHING to you?
Yes, yes we must. You're very stubborn.
 
Astros sweep the Mariners, must be global warming. Is there anything you won’t blame on global warming? Probably not. You want it to be global warming because it’s a religion for you. You’re every bit as bad as flat earthers.
I have no idea what you and the other guy are trying to accomplish on the thread.
Teach, enlighten, show. Isn't it obvious? Must we explain EVERYTHING to you?
Yes, yes we must. You're very stubborn.
It is to me: you are trying to accomplish "add fuel to the fire as the world burns".

I've seen it before and we'll see it again and the answer will always be the same: fuck that noise.
 
Astros sweep the Mariners, must be global warming. Is there anything you won’t blame on global warming? Probably not. You want it to be global warming because it’s a religion for you. You’re every bit as bad as flat earthers.
I have no idea what you and the other guy are trying to accomplish on the thread.
Teach, enlighten, show. Isn't it obvious? Must we explain EVERYTHING to you?
Yes, yes we must. You're very stubborn.
It is to me: you are trying to accomplish "add fuel to the fire as the world burns".

I've seen it before and we'll see it again and the answer will always be the same: fuck that noise.
Number two on my Ignore List for vulgarity compounded by ignorance. Ciao brutto.
 
Let's see how he is at arithmetic.
Moreover this is the TOTAL increase in atmospheric carbon dioxide, 96+% of which is produced by decomposing plants and animals.

On the Scary Graph we see CO2 increasing by 70 ppmv over a 50-year period.

96% of 70 ppmv is 67.2 ppmv. Is it your claim that the rise over the same period would have been 67 ppmv even WITHOUT mankind's fossil fuel usage?
Don't put words in my mouth as the Left is wont to do and then giggle.
It is science which states 96+% of CO2 comes from natural sources. Just think of the decomposing biomass all around the world and under the oceans. It is massive.

:confused: I did not put any words in your mouth. :confused2: I DID ask a specific question to test your understanding and my own. If you can't answer a simple obvious follow-up question in response to your own claim, the inference is that you do not understand the subject matter, not even your own claim.
 
Astros sweep the Mariners, must be global warming. Is there anything you won’t blame on global warming? Probably not. You want it to be global warming because it’s a religion for you. You’re every bit as bad as flat earthers.
I have no idea what you and the other guy are trying to accomplish on the thread.
Teach, enlighten, show. Isn't it obvious? Must we explain EVERYTHING to you?
Yes, yes we must. You're very stubborn.
It is to me: you are trying to accomplish "add fuel to the fire as the world burns".

I've seen it before and we'll see it again and the answer will always be the same: fuck that noise.
Number two on my Ignore List for vulgarity compounded by ignorance. Ciao brutto.
Great. I get to point out how you are grossly wrong without having to deal with last-word-isms.
 
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