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The War Of Hunter Biden's Laptop

 
 
 
Elixir said:
TomC said:
Jimmy Higgins said:
That statements make an undemonstrated presumption that they ever had values to begin with.
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They includes me.
Tom
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No Tom, "they" doesn't include you in my lexicon. Having been conservative or a Republican doesn't make you or anyone else one of 'them". Only abject disregard for the truth can get you in that club. That most all of that ken are Republicans, is just a transitory semantic state of affairs. In a few years, most of "them" will be regarded as never having been Republicans.
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I'd like to be honest with you here.
But it's a bad idea.
 
TomC said:
I'd like to be honest with you here.
But it's a bad idea.
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I'd like you to be honest with me here as well.
But at least I believe you are being honest in your belief that it's a bad idea... even though I'd like to know why.
(I was brought up to believe honesty is always the best policy, and my life experiences have borne that out.)
 
Elixir said:
In a few years, most of "them" will be regarded as never having been 'true' Republicans.
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Or just... something no one on the right wants to talk about at all, despite knowing damn well it was they and their friends who allowed it all to take place. This is also not especially unlike like the situation with Nixon. The Republican playbook changes in degree but not in basic tactics. What they do works for them, and has kept them in power these long years. They aren't afraid to fight dirty, and their opponents are usually too spineless to call them on it.
 
Elixir said:
I'd like you to be honest with me here as well.
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That's not always worked out well, for me.
Elixir said:
But at least I believe you are being honest in your belief that it's a bad idea... even though I'd like to know why.
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It would involve staff, so I have found that it doesn't work out well.
Elixir said:
(I was brought up to believe honesty is always the best policy, and my life experiences have borne that out.)
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I was brought up gay in a very Christian world. I was also nearly atheist in a Catholic school system.
I learned early on that being too honest is not the best policy. Honesty must be tempered. My life experiences have borne that out.
Tom
 
TomC said:
I learned early on that being too honest is not the best policy.
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I coined a platitude long ago that would seem to apply here, in lieu of saying "too honest".

"The fact that something is true, doesn't make it worth saying."

Not saying certain things isn't (always) lying by omission. Sometimes it's just the better part of valor.
 
"According to multiple people involved in distributing the material, Guo ordered them to claim that the laptop material included images of Hunter Biden having sex with underage Chinese girls. There is no evidence supporting this allegation against Hunter. Guo also told subordinates to assert that the Chinese government had obtained the material and used it to blackmail both Hunter and Joe Biden. That, too, was made up, people involved said."

This all goes beyond releasing files from Biden's laptop. But this is a case of knowing, orchestrated defamation, libel, and slander spread to destroy Hunter Biden, and Joe Biden.

As more evidence accumulates as to these facts, we shall see more well deserved lawsuits and maybe even felonies presentered to grand juries. A number of far right media sources gleefully spread the lies, including Faux Noise who is already up to its neck in lawsuits. Dominion, Smartmatic et al.
 
thebeave said:
First of all, he initially left it with a laptop repair place, not a political enemy. If you saw the video clips Hunter recklessly made of himself with hookers and buying drugs, you would have no problem believing him forgetting to pick up his laptop. In an interview, he claims to not even know for sure it was his, but forensics established that it was. He even claimed he smoked parmesan cheese, thinking it was cocaine! The guy, at least at one time, was a total train wreck.

Hunter Biden smoking parmesan cheese
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I'm not at all sure it is even his.

Yes, the data clearly shows it came from his system--but it could have been a covertly-made copy, nothing says the repair shop even had it.
 
Politesse said:
It didn't stop them from going after the Hillary e-mails and, arguably, using them to put their favored turd on the golden throne for four years.
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It did not stop your side to go after Trump-Alfa Bank story. Completely made up story at that. In contrast, Biden notebook is real.
 
barbos said:
Politesse said:
It didn't stop them from going after the Hillary e-mails and, arguably, using them to put their favored turd on the golden throne for four years.
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It did not stop your side to go after Trump-Alfa Bank story. Completely made up story at that. In contrast, Biden notebook is real.
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Agreed. The Hunter notebook is a real notebook. Why should I care?
 
Trump and Trump Jr both confirmed (actually Junior offered it up without even being asked) that they got “all the money we need from Russia!”.
No wonder they would have handed Putler Ukraine ….
 
Jimmy Higgins said:
TomC said:
Jimmy Higgins said:
That statements make an undemonstrated presumption that they ever had values to begin with.
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They includes me.
Tom
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It does if you complained that "OMG! He cheated on his wife!" and then supported Trump.

Please feel free to enjoy my posts in their original context.
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Tom doesn't really do context, if you haven't noticed.
Where are the people involved with Guo being interviewed or deposed or whatever?

Basically, where is this information coming from?
 
barbos said:
Politesse said:
It didn't stop them from going after the Hillary e-mails and, arguably, using them to put their favored turd on the golden throne for four years.
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It did not stop your side to go after Trump-Alfa Bank story. Completely made up story at that. In contrast, Biden notebook is real.
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I don't even know what you're talking about...

Nor do I care.
 
Elixir said:
Harry Bosch said:
Anything else is just bullshit and a waste of time!
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A gimungous bullshit waste of time is just what the doctor ordered for the Republicans.
I believe they think that if they waste enough time, Trump will miraculously become president again.
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Its more than that... or should I say less than that? What this is, in my observation, is a steady stream of donation revenue. Apparently, if you follow the money, "shock and outrage" against "the Them" is very profitable when you leverage the Social Media Ad Framework and embed whatever you want into perfectly demographed minds. There are 100 Million people with "significantly below-average intelligence" in America. If each would just donate $1 to "build the wall!", "stop the steal!", "read the report!", "word1 word2 word3!"... Then someone that is not in that 100 Million population can do the math...
 
Gun Nut said:
What this is, in my observation, is a steady stream of donation revenue.
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Yup. GQP is now nothing but one gigantic grift. Trump showed them the way, and they have bought in 100%. Now they’ll dump Trump, but keep on grifting just as he taught them. I don’t see that party ever again becoming a viable vehicle of governance. Just a power-grabbing mechanism for bringing in more $$$.
 
Elixir said:
Gun Nut said:
What this is, in my observation, is a steady stream of donation revenue.
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Yup. GQP is now nothing but one gigantic grift. Trump showed them the way, and they have bought in 100%. Now they’ll dump Trump, but keep on grifting just as he taught them. I don’t see that party ever again becoming a viable vehicle of governance. Just a power-grabbing mechanism for bringing in more $$$.
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You say this like it's only the Republicans.

Over the last 20 years the DNC has had opportunities to promote and pass legislation. Legislation concerning reproductive freedom, immigration reform, marriage equality, UHC, to name a few.

But they haven't. They don't want those fund raising opportunities to go away either.
Tom
 
Wow, that is a great example of Moore Coulter.

GOP had Trump advertise the stolen election to get money donated to a Stip the Steal group. That group sent 80+% to the GOP off the top. A tiny percentage went to legal efforts about the election.

The Dems failed to pass legislation on *insert cause* without a fillibuster proof majority in the US Senate.

OMFG, they are both just as bad!
 
TomC said:
You say this like it's only the Republicans.
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That’s because it IS only the Republican Party that is NOTHING more than a grift machine. The Dem party still has some people interested in governing effectively.
 
Jimmy Higgins said:
Wow, that is a great example of Moore Coulter.

GOP had Trump advertise the stolen election to get money donated to a Stip the Steal group. That group sent 80+% to the GOP off the top. A tiny percentage went to legal efforts about the election.

The Dems failed to pass legislation on *insert cause* without a fillibuster proof majority in the US Senate.

OMFG, they are both just as bad!
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I did say the exact opposite, in this thread.

Oh well, the staff is giving you likes so I'll shut up.
 
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