Right Wing Terrorism

[ZiprHead]

A general thread for the subject of the title.

Gunman in Paris kills three people in attack on Kurdish community

A gunman killed three people at a Kurdish cultural centre and nearby Kurdish cafe in central Paris on Friday, prompting violent protests in nearby streets as night fell.

www.reuters.com

PARIS, Dec 23 (Reuters) - A gunman killed three people at a Kurdish cultural centre and nearby Kurdish cafe in central Paris on Friday, prompting violent protests in nearby streets as night fell.

President Emmanuel Macron said France's Kurdish community had been the target of a heinous attack. French Interior Minister Gerald Darmanin said the suspected assailant had clearly wanted to target foreigners.

Multiple gunshots were fired on Rue d'Enghien at about midday, creating panic on a street lined with small shops and cafes in the French capital's busy 10th district.

All three of those who died were Kurdish, a lawyer for the Kurdish cultural centre told Reuters. Three others were wounded, one of them with life threatening injuries.

Authorities said they had arrested a 69-year-old man, who Paris prosecutor Laure Beccuau said had recently been freed from detention while awaiting trial for a sabre attack on a migrant camp in Paris a year ago. He was convicted in June of committing violent acts with a weapon in 2016, and had lodged an appeal.

Reuters was not immediately able to contact legal representatives for the suspect.

Images broadcast on French news networks on Friday showed a white man, a French national, wearing a grey top and scruffy white trainers being led away from the scene, his hands cuffed behind his back

Deadly attack in central Paris: shooter was 'clearly targeting foreigners', minister said - France 24

www.france24.com

A 69-year-old gunman who opened fire at a Kurdish cultural centre and a hairdressing salon in Paris on Friday (December 23) was deliberately seeking out foreigners, Interior Minister Gerald Darmanin said. The man, a retired train driver, "was clearly targeting foreigners", Darmanin told reporters, adding however that it was "not certain" that the man was aiming to kill "Kurds in particular". FRANCE 24's Douglas Herbert tells us more.

 

[Patooka]

In before the whataboutism "anteepha is just bad !!!!11111" rears its head. Because as we all know, throwing a rock at a window is just as bad.

 

[Derec]

In before the whataboutism "anteepha is just bad !!!!11111" rears its head. Because as we all know, throwing a rock at a window is just as bad.

Sigh. #BLM/Antifa did far worse than that in 2020 alone. Including numerous arsons.

Including actually killing people like a retired police captain and a random guy in a pawn shop a #BLMer torched.

But that's all "mostly peaceful protest" to the Left and the mainstream media.

 

[Derec]

A general thread for the subject of the title.

I am not condoning the shooting, but it is notable that the number of casualties is orders of magnitude lower than the terrorist attacks committed by the "religion of peace" in Paris alone.
 November 2015 Paris attacks
Here, Islamists murdered 130 and wounded hundreds more.

Also, something like this is an understandable backlash to EU's migration policies. Millions of mass migrants, mostly Muslims, have been showing up in EU year after year, changing the continent's demographics and identity. Very few ever get deported, even if they have committed crimes.

This is what European cities like Paris increasingly look like, and politicians are doing nothing against it.

And, as I said, the shooting itself is not justified. And neither are riots by Muslims that followed. Do you agree, or do you think these riots are "peaceful protests" (which is also how you leftists dismiss the #BLM rioting in the US).

 

[ZiprHead]

A general thread for the subject of the title.

I am not condoning the shooting, but something like this is understandable backlash to EU's migration policies. Millions of mass migrants, mostly Muslims, have been showing up in EU year after year, changing the continent's demographics and identity. Very few ever get deported, even if they have committed crimes.
This is what European cities like Paris increasingly look like, and politicians are doing nothing against it.

People are peacefully praying.

Run away!!! Run away!!!

 

[Derec]

People are peacefully praying.

Well, they are blocking the street.
The point was about the identity of Europe changing due to this mass migration.
Look at the chart I also posted. The % of Muslims has been rising rapidly over the last few decades, and that is slated to continue. Faster under the high rate of mass migration EU politicians do not want to stop. You may argue that 14% is not a majority, but it is far more than the % of Muslims was even in the 1990s. And Muslims tend to be concentrated in the cities. 14% Europe-wide will mean solid Muslim majorities in major European cities by then. Will you be able to get a Maß of Weißbier in München, a glass of red in Paris or a pint of ale in London in 2050? As things are going right now, probably not.

What do you have to retort to this other than silly gifs?

 

[laughing dog]

People are peacefully praying.

Well, they are blocking the street.
The point was about the identity of Europe changing due to this mass migration.
Look at the chart I also posted. The % of Muslims has been rising rapidly over the last few decades, and that is slated to continue. Faster under the high rate of mass migration EU politicians do not want to stop. You may argue that 14% is not a majority, but it is far more than the % of Muslims was even in the 1990s. And Muslims tend to be concentrated in the cities. 14% Europe-wide will mean solid Muslim majorities in major European cities by then. Will you be able to get a Maß of Weißbier in München, a glass of red in Paris or a pint of ale in London in 2050? As things are going right now, probably not.

What do you have to retort to this other than silly gifs?

Silly gifs are appropriate responses to hysterically inane worries about access to alcohol 30 years from now.

Plenty of Muslims imbibe alcohol. Especially in the West.

 

[Patooka]

Definitely glad I got in before the whataboutism took full stride.

 

[Elixir]

“B-b-but LOOK at all those blue dots!”
- RW apologist

 

[Derec]

[some unsourced chart]

Pretty sus they are not including Islamic terrorism and also that they started the chart after 9/11.
Also, how do they define "left wing" vs. "right wing" terrorism? For example, what about all the arsons etc. by #BLMers in 2020? Not counted as left-wing terrorism? Why?

 

[Elixir]

10 yr view. Suspicious?
Source your own data and get back to me. Also notify the FBI, CIA, NSA et al, since they all basically agree with the graph.

What is suspicious is stream of single whataboutisms based on single incidents and anecdotes rather than what compiled data reveal. Right wingers are the biggest threat we have, period. Because of morons who enable them.

 

[Derec]

Silly gifs are appropriate responses to hysterically inane worries about access to alcohol 30 years from now.

It's about the very real threat to the European identity of Europe due to invasion from both Asia (mostly Afghanistan, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Syria) and Africa (mostly Nigeria, Sudan, Egypt, Morocco). The alcohol was just one example of the dire consequences of this impending demographic and cultural change.

Plenty of Muslims imbibe alcohol. Especially in the West.

And plenty of majority Muslims polities have banned alcohol.
But take pork if you prefer. You should be able to have a Schweinhaxe in München in 2050 as much as you should be able to have a Maß of Paulaner.

At least three things that are absolutely haram in one stock photo ...

 

[Derec]

10 yr view. Suspicious?

Suspicious to talk about terrorism and start your chart shortly after the biggest terrorist attack in a century.
Also suspicious to exclude Islamic terrorism which is, on a per capita basis, by far most common.

Source: Islamist terrorist attacks in the world 1979-2019

Source your own data and get back to me.

Why? It is your graph. You source it.

 

[Elixir]

Also suspicious to exclude Islamic terrorism which is, on a per capita basis, by far most common.

Yes, I agree. Not much difference between the Middle Eastern and ‘Murkin talibans.
Per capita is meaningless though, unless your intent is to identify a group to vilify. Always a good thing for right wingers…

 

[Derec]

Yes, I agree. Not much difference between the Middle Eastern and ‘Murkin talibans.

You mean like this guy?

You'd be wrong. He is not the American Taliban. He is a Shia cleric, and allied with the theocratic regime in Tehran.
Not a mystery any more as to why Bernie is so gung ho on helping the Houthis conquer Yemen, right?

Per capita is meaningless though, unless your intent is to identify a group to vilify.

It's not meaningless. It's the only real way to compare rates across groups of disparate sizes, be the groups geographic (cities, states, countries), demographic (race, religion, etc.), or other (e.g. people with a particular disease). Unless you want to vilify the majority group by dishonestly comparing raw numbers only.

 

[laughing dog]

The alcohol was just one example of the dire consequences of this impending demographic and cultural change.

Get a grip. Change is inevitable.

 

[Derec]

Get a grip. Change is inevitable.

Of course change itself is inevitable. That does not mean any particular change is inevitable. It does not mean all change is good either. It certainly does not mean that all change should be welcomed, or that no particular change should be opposed.

And you are not doing that for changes you oppose. You argue against trends you dislike. As do other posters here.
So why is the Islamic takeover of Europe the only change we are supposed to just fatalistically accept and not say anything against? Is it because you leftists like Islam for some ineffable reason?

 

[Colonel Sanders]

[some unsourced chart]

Pretty sus they are not including Islamic terrorism and also that they started the chart after 9/11.
Also, how do they define "left wing" vs. "right wing" terrorism? For example, what about all the arsons etc. by #BLMers in 2020? Not counted as left-wing terrorism? Why?

Riots have never been classified as terrorism. Maybe put another way, opportunistic vandalism and theft isn't terrorism. It's inexcusable, but it isn't terrorism.

OTOH, I agree with you about Islam being coddled by the left. It's especially puzzling when it comes to the faithless. I get that Muslims are more prone to being victims of discrimination, but for some reason leftists begin their own game of whataboutism the minute that some suicide bomber blows up a cafe.

Anyway, in the U.S. and around the world, right wing terrorism is clearly on the rise. But as the GOP likes to say, "We Are All Domestic Terrorists."

 

[ZiprHead]

Well, they are blocking the street.
The point was about the identity of Europe changing due to this mass migration.

And that's a derail and your hobby horse.

 

[Elixir]

Well, they are blocking the street.
The point was about the identity of Europe changing due to this mass migration.

And that's a derail and your hobby horse.

Lol… seems that all those things that terrify Derec (like Property Damage) are “terrorism” in his mind.