Covid-19 miscellany

[ZiprHead]

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Fucking anti-vaxxers!

 

[ZiprHead]

‘Are Americans Being Poisoned?’: Diamond’s Memorial Goes Off the Rails

“People are dropping dead around here, and nobody is talking about it!” Silk said at her sister’s celebration of life ceremony. “They are dropping dead suddenly and unexpectedly.”

www.thedailybeast.com

Trumpworld figures converged at Lynnette “Diamond” Hardaway’s remembrance ceremony on Saturday afternoon to celebrate the life of the pro-Trump pundit who died suddenly at 51—but the memorial took a dark turn as her sister suggested a nefarious plot behind her death.

Diamond’s sister—half of the “Diamond and Silk” duo—Rochelle “Silk” Richardson addressed the crowd at the Crown Theatre in Fayetteville, North Carolina, and appeared to fall back into her old anti-vaxxer ways.

“Instead of asking if Americans are vaxxed or unvaxxed, the real question to ask is: Are Americans being poisoned?” she asked the pro-Trump crowd filled with friends and family.

“In the wild, when they want to depopulate and sterilize a large group of animals, they usually inject one animal, and that one animal infect the rest of the animals,” Silk said, suggesting, without evidence, that the COVID-19 vaccine creates harm. “People are dropping dead around here, and nobody is talking about it! They are dropping dead suddenly and unexpectedly.”


According to fact-checkers and researchers, there is no evidence that COVID-19 vaccines cause people to die. And despite far-right pundits amplifying the phrase “died suddenly” on social media with videos of people having seizures to support their theory, the claim isn’t supported by science.

Silk also recalled her sister’s final moments: “She said to me, ‘I can’t breathe.’ It was something out of nowhere, and no warning… Each breath was less, and less, and less.”

A covid vaccine probably could have prevented that.

 

[blastula]

So, she got infected from the vaxxed? Of what? And I thought her immune system would protect her?

 

[ZiprHead]

So, she got infected from the vaxxed? Of what? And I thought her immune system would protect her?

Silk said it was the vax Diamond caught from being near vaxed that killed her. The old shedding vaccine fairy tale.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

I get that some people that fear this stuff can be misled. But weren't these people the ones doing the misleading. And more importantly, the number of people that died of Covid-19 was large. The number of Americans immunized much larger, and the number of Americans that died from being immunized doesn't seem to have been statistically relevant, when you look at the excess death statistics. If people were dying from immunization, it'd be noticeable.

Instead, we just get these accusations from Silk or whomever survived that people are dying everywhere. Including those that didn't get immunized. So it is more fear mongering.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Yup, it's not like with pills where there are extra packaging ingredients that can be hard to know when you're talking about generics because it might be arbitrarily switched from one manufacturer to another by the pharmacy.

I don't know what rules apply in your area, but in Australia the TGA requires that prescription medications, including both solid dose medicine and injections, are supplied along with a Consumer Product Information guide, that lists all of the ingredients, along with other information such as the side effects noted during trials, known interactions with other medications, and advice on what to do if symptoms of serious side effects are noticed.

If you obtain your medication from a pharmacy, they are required to give you a hard copy of the CPI (most medications have this included inside the packaging by the manufacturer); If the medication is administered by a hospital or clinic, you can request a hard copy from the person administering the drug.

Note that I'm not talking about the medicine per se, but rather the packaging material. The disclosures all talk about the medicine and have little information on the binders etc.

 

[bilby]

Yup, it's not like with pills where there are extra packaging ingredients that can be hard to know when you're talking about generics because it might be arbitrarily switched from one manufacturer to another by the pharmacy.

I don't know what rules apply in your area, but in Australia the TGA requires that prescription medications, including both solid dose medicine and injections, are supplied along with a Consumer Product Information guide, that lists all of the ingredients, along with other information such as the side effects noted during trials, known interactions with other medications, and advice on what to do if symptoms of serious side effects are noticed.

If you obtain your medication from a pharmacy, they are required to give you a hard copy of the CPI (most medications have this included inside the packaging by the manufacturer); If the medication is administered by a hospital or clinic, you can request a hard copy from the person administering the drug.

Note that I'm not talking about the medicine per se, but rather the packaging material. The disclosures all talk about the medicine and have little information on the binders etc.

Australian CPI leaflets list all ingredients, including any binders, coatings, colours, flavours, fillers, and solubility aids. If it goes in the medication, it goes on the leaflet.

I'm not aware of anyone who is allergic to or reacts adversely to, for example, crospovidone, when consumed orally in the quantities found in tablets containing that ingredient. But if anyone is avoiding that ingredient for any reason (or none), the CPI will allow them to do so.

 

[ZiprHead]

Yup, it's not like with pills where there are extra packaging ingredients that can be hard to know when you're talking about generics because it might be arbitrarily switched from one manufacturer to another by the pharmacy.

I don't know what rules apply in your area, but in Australia the TGA requires that prescription medications, including both solid dose medicine and injections, are supplied along with a Consumer Product Information guide, that lists all of the ingredients, along with other information such as the side effects noted during trials, known interactions with other medications, and advice on what to do if symptoms of serious side effects are noticed.

If you obtain your medication from a pharmacy, they are required to give you a hard copy of the CPI (most medications have this included inside the packaging by the manufacturer); If the medication is administered by a hospital or clinic, you can request a hard copy from the person administering the drug.

Note that I'm not talking about the medicine per se, but rather the packaging material. The disclosures all talk about the medicine and have little information on the binders etc.

Australian CPI leaflets list all ingredients, including any binders, coatings, colours, flavours, fillers, and solubility aids. If it goes in the medication, it goes on the leaflet.

I'm not aware of anyone who is allergic to or reacts adversely to, for example, crospovidone, when consumed orally in the quantities found in tablets containing that ingredient. But if anyone is avoiding that ingredient for any reason (or none), the CPI will allow them to do so.

All the pharmacy leaflets I get with my medications include everything about the medicine, including those chemical maps, whatever those are called.

 

[TomC]

All the pharmacy leaflets I get with my medications include everything about the medicine, including those chemical maps, whatever those are called.

I'm ridiculously healthy, given my age and lifestyle. I don't do much prescription drugs. Almost all were meds for my mother-in-law.

I found I could reduce waste by asking the pharmacy clerk, "Is there a wastebasket I can toss this in?" The answer was near always, "Give it back".

I knew what the stuff was. So did she. We didn't need to kill a twig, we had internet.
Tom

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Diamond died due to bad health. It is a conspiracy!

Lynette Hardaway, a zealous supporter of former President Donald Trump whose death had prompted widespread speculation over its cause, died earlier this month of a heart condition, according to a death certificate obtained Monday by The Associated Press.

Known by the moniker “Diamond” of the conservative political commentary duo Diamond and Silk, Hardaway, 51, died Jan. 8 of heart disease due to chronic high blood pressure.

 

[blastula]

I was going to say that's really fucked up of Silk then to try to grift off of her sister's death, by trying to tie it to the conspiracy of the day about people dropping dead for no reason. But come to think of it, Diamond would have wanted it that way.

 

[bilby]

I found I could reduce waste by asking the pharmacy clerk, "Is there a wastebasket I can toss this in?" The answer was near always, "Give it back".

Sorry to break it to you, but it's almost certainly impossible to reduce waste in this way - it's a sunk cost, the paper has been printed and the tree killed whether or not you take a leaflet.

If you give it back, the pharmacy now has one more leaflet than they have packages of that medication. No trees were saved in the making of this mismatch. Next time they order twenty more packages, they'll get twenty more leaflets.

The pharmaceutical companies won't only send nineteen copies, just because the pharmacy says they already have a spare, and setting things up to allow this would likely be more environmentally damaging than the printing of a few unwanted leaflets anyway.

The environmental benefit of throwing a leaflet away unread after storing it at a pharmacy for a few weeks, months or years, vs you throwing it in the trash right now, is zero. The clerk is just saving you the hassle of finding a wastebasket.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

I was going to say that's really fucked up of Silk then to try to grift off of her sister's death, by trying to tie it to the conspiracy of the day about people dropping dead for no reason. But come to think of it, Diamond would have wanted it that way.

Don't know whether to or

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Note that I'm not talking about the medicine per se, but rather the packaging material. The disclosures all talk about the medicine and have little information on the binders etc.

Australian CPI leaflets list all ingredients, including any binders, coatings, colours, flavours, fillers, and solubility aids. If it goes in the medication, it goes on the leaflet.

I'm not aware of anyone who is allergic to or reacts adversely to, for example, crospovidone, when consumed orally in the quantities found in tablets containing that ingredient. But if anyone is avoiding that ingredient for any reason (or none), the CPI will allow them to do so.

All the pharmacy leaflets I get with my medications include everything about the medicine, including those chemical maps, whatever those are called.

Everything about the medicine itself, yes. What I'm talking about is the non-medical ingredients. The labeling there leaves a lot to be desired. It sounds like it's handled better in Australia.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

All the pharmacy leaflets I get with my medications include everything about the medicine, including those chemical maps, whatever those are called.

I'm ridiculously healthy, given my age and lifestyle. I don't do much prescription drugs. Almost all were meds for my mother-in-law.

I found I could reduce waste by asking the pharmacy clerk, "Is there a wastebasket I can toss this in?" The answer was near always, "Give it back".

I knew what the stuff was. So did she. We didn't need to kill a twig, we had internet.
Tom

Yeah, they can recycle some of the stuff. I even see the point of it--for the first fill of a prescription. I'd love it if you could set a default that you get the paperwork on any new or chemically changed prescription, but not on anything you have already filled, including if it's a new script for the old thing. I question the completeness of the first one and the lack of necessity of the rest. Even worse, my wife takes one that's blister-packed rather than pill bottles. 4 weeks/box, the mail order pharmacy ships 3 boxes at a time--and the majority of the volume of each box is the paper. 3 copies per fill.

 

[ZiprHead]

Diamond died due to bad health. It is a conspiracy!

Lynette Hardaway, a zealous supporter of former President Donald Trump whose death had prompted widespread speculation over its cause, died earlier this month of a heart condition, according to a death certificate obtained Monday by The Associated Press.

Known by the moniker “Diamond” of the conservative political commentary duo Diamond and Silk, Hardaway, 51, died Jan. 8 of heart disease due to chronic high blood pressure.

Maybe. It depends on the definition of just straight up heart disease:
MAGA Supporter Diamond, Of Diamond And Silk, Has Been Hospitalized Due To COVID (MSN, Nov 30, 2022)
COVID-19 patients retain elevated risk of death for at least 18 months after infection (European Society of Cardiology, Jan 19, 2023)
Unvaccinated COVID patients 'at greater risk of death and cardiovascular disease for at least 18 months after infection' (Sky, Jan 18, 2023)

 

[TSwizzle]

Gee, I wonder what could be causing all these excess deaths in Wales/England;

MPs have called for an urgent investigation into Britain's soaring death rates as thousands more people than usual are dying each week. Some 17,381 deaths were registered in England and Wales in the seven days to January 13 – 2,837 above average for the time of year.This is the highest number of excess deaths since 3,429 in the week to February 12, 2021, when the UK was experiencing its second wave of Covid-19 infections and vaccination had only just begun.

Daily Mail

It couldn’t possibly be…nah, couldn’t be, could it? Just need to wait on the investigation.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Gee, I wonder what could be causing all these excess deaths in Wales/England;

MPs have called for an urgent investigation into Britain's soaring death rates as thousands more people than usual are dying each week. Some 17,381 deaths were registered in England and Wales in the seven days to January 13 – 2,837 above average for the time of year.This is the highest number of excess deaths since 3,429 in the week to February 12, 2021, when the UK was experiencing its second wave of Covid-19 infections and vaccination had only just begun.

Daily Mail

It couldn’t possibly be…nah, couldn’t be, could it? Just need to wait on the investigation.

Conservatives like to pretend Covid isn't a big killer.

 

[TSwizzle]

Most Americans who get their bivalent booster vaccine are not protected against falling sick with Covid, official data suggests. A report by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) released today found the updated shots were just 48 percent effective at stopping symptomatic infection caused by the XBB.1.5 subvariant for up to three months.

Daily Mail

These “vaccines” are proving to be a bit of a bust really.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Most Americans who get their bivalent booster vaccine are not protected against falling sick with Covid, official data suggests. A report by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) released today found the updated shots were just 48 percent effective at stopping symptomatic infection caused by the XBB.1.5 subvariant for up to three months.

Daily Mail

These “vaccines” are proving to be a bit of a bust really.

You mean other than the magnitude of so number of lives not being lost relative to the unvaxxed?

The updated vaccine was designed for a variant a number of variants before XBB.1.5.

Also, the goal is not having people in the hospital and not having people dying. The vaccine has succeeded there. That is the backstop. The goal is no infection, the next goal if that can't be assured to help ensure infection doesn't make people have to get hospitalized.