Split Gendered spaces, split from Drag Shows

[TSwizzle]

These people are out of their cotton picking minds;

Minnesota Democratic state Rep. Sandra Feist, who introduced the “Menstrual Equity Bill” to provide all students access to menstrual products, insisted during a Jan. 11 education policy hearing that the amendment restricting the products to only female bathrooms should not be supported for multiple reasons. "I would encourage the committee to vote no on this amendment for a few reasons: practical, financial, social, emotional,” Feist said during the hearing. “First, there are a lot of schools that are moving towards gender-neutral bathrooms and if we add ‘female’ we might become obsolete very quickly. Second, not all students who menstruate are female – we need to make sure that all students have access to these products.” Feist did concede that there would be much less “non-female menstruating students,” which she noted had been factored into the cost of the bill.

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[Toni]

These people are out of their cotton picking minds;

Minnesota Democratic state Rep. Sandra Feist, who introduced the “Menstrual Equity Bill” to provide all students access to menstrual products, insisted during a Jan. 11 education policy hearing that the amendment restricting the products to only female bathrooms should not be supported for multiple reasons. "I would encourage the committee to vote no on this amendment for a few reasons: practical, financial, social, emotional,” Feist said during the hearing. “First, there are a lot of schools that are moving towards gender-neutral bathrooms and if we add ‘female’ we might become obsolete very quickly. Second, not all students who menstruate are female – we need to make sure that all students have access to these products.” Feist did concede that there would be much less “non-female menstruating students,” which she noted had been factored into the cost of the bill.

News

Here is a less biased article: https://www.house.leg.state.mn.us/sessiondaily/Story/17529

The issue is about how some students miss class because they do not have access to menstrual products.

 

[TSwizzle]

These people are out of their cotton picking minds;

Minnesota Democratic state Rep. Sandra Feist, who introduced the “Menstrual Equity Bill” to provide all students access to menstrual products, insisted during a Jan. 11 education policy hearing that the amendment restricting the products to only female bathrooms should not be supported for multiple reasons. "I would encourage the committee to vote no on this amendment for a few reasons: practical, financial, social, emotional,” Feist said during the hearing. “First, there are a lot of schools that are moving towards gender-neutral bathrooms and if we add ‘female’ we might become obsolete very quickly. Second, not all students who menstruate are female – we need to make sure that all students have access to these products.” Feist did concede that there would be much less “non-female menstruating students,” which she noted had been factored into the cost of the bill.

News

Here is a less biased article: https://www.house.leg.state.mn.us/sessiondaily/Story/17529

The issue is about how some students miss class because they do not have access to menstrual products.

All well and good but to come out and say something so wrong as "not all students who menstruate are female" says a lot about Feist and their agenda.

 

[Toni]

These people are out of their cotton picking minds;

Minnesota Democratic state Rep. Sandra Feist, who introduced the “Menstrual Equity Bill” to provide all students access to menstrual products, insisted during a Jan. 11 education policy hearing that the amendment restricting the products to only female bathrooms should not be supported for multiple reasons. "I would encourage the committee to vote no on this amendment for a few reasons: practical, financial, social, emotional,” Feist said during the hearing. “First, there are a lot of schools that are moving towards gender-neutral bathrooms and if we add ‘female’ we might become obsolete very quickly. Second, not all students who menstruate are female – we need to make sure that all students have access to these products.” Feist did concede that there would be much less “non-female menstruating students,” which she noted had been factored into the cost of the bill.

News

Here is a less biased article: https://www.house.leg.state.mn.us/sessiondaily/Story/17529

The issue is about how some students miss class because they do not have access to menstrual products.

All well and good but to come out and say something so wrong as "not all students who menstruate are female" says a lot about Feist and their agenda.

It recognizes that there are pre/non-surgical trans students in schools.

 

[TSwizzle]

It recognizes that there are pre/non-surgical trans students in schools.

The statement "not all students who menstruate are female" is flat out false.

 

[Oleg]

The issue is about how some students miss class because they do not have access to menstrual products.

Odd that for the 100+ years we’re had co-ed schools, it’s only now an issue. How did female students of last century survive?

 

[Oleg]

It recognizes that there are pre/non-surgical trans students in schools.

The statement "not all students who menstruate are female" is flat out false.

But worse, it’s just a waste of money to impose a political viewpoint. On the other hand, ya gotta know the boys are gonna take those menstrual products in their restroom and do a lot of funny shit with it.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

The issue is about how some students miss class because they do not have access to menstrual products.

Odd that for the 100+ years we’re had co-ed schools, it’s only now an issue.

Inertia is rarely ever the go to card to play for why we should continue something. Segregation worked for decades... slavery worked for centuries... women have been not working outside the house for millennia...

How did female students of last century survive?

You've been indicating you don't think the problem exists, therefore it wasn't a problem.

Is it a problem now? For almost all cases, no. Is there a case where it could be? Rarely, but it is non-zero. Should boys rooms be stocked with these things because of it? Most likely not. Why are the two of you getting so emotional over it?

 

[Oleg]

Why are the two of you getting so emotional over it?

Emotional? Are you kidding? I just posted a picture of boys laughing about tampons up the nose.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Why are the two of you getting so emotional over it?

Emotional? Are you kidding?

You obsess over it, and obsession is founded within deep emotional reaction.

 

[Oleg]

Why are the two of you getting so emotional over it?

Emotional? Are you kidding?

You obsess over it, and obsession is founded within deep emotional reaction.

I can’t even.

 

[Toni]

The issue is about how some students miss class because they do not have access to menstrual products.

Odd that for the 100+ years we’re had co-ed schools, it’s only now an issue. How did female students of last century survive?

Early on, a lot of schools, especially beyond primary schools, were sex segregated. Fewer girls completed school past 8th grade. Later, girls who became pregnant were forced to drop out. Even in the 70’s, a lot of curriculum was sex segregated. Until the 70’s, there were no girls’ sports. One of the big objections to girls’ sports was the need for separate athletic facilities for girls. It was too expensive. The solution, after it became federally mandated for girls to have equal opportunities was that girls could use the athletic facilities and locker rooms at times the boys were not scheduled: so girls got late practice times and fewer practice times. Girls’ games were mid-week, so more disruptive to their education.

Girls were not allowed to take shop classes or things like drafting. Boys could not take home ec. This segregation was eliminated by the time my kids were in school. Some gym classes were coed ( but not locker rooms). Girls still get less desirable play times for sports but generally much better access.

Since having your period was supposed to be a deep dark secret, it WAS challenging to have enough supplies with you and to have something in case your period came unexpectedly. Teenage girls often do not have predictable menses. It definitely was not fun when breaks between classes were only 5 minutes. Fortunately teachers were instructed to allow students to leave class to go to the bathroom. Note: girls NEVER wanted to make use of that for fear that everyone would know or assume they were on their period. Which girls were ridiculed for.

Of course some girls missed school because of cramps, which for some can be very debilitating. Probably some missed school because they did not have access to period products. The last issue is the reason for the legislation mentioned Upthread: lack of access is a serious problem for girls in poverty.

We were more fortunate than the previous generation when there were zero disposable menstrual products. Ever hear of being on the rag? That’s what girls and women had to use: rags which were washed and dried and reused. My grandmother refused to allow my mother to bathe during her period—some superstition about it being dangerous for her health.

Girls were not supposed to swim during their periods, which made sense until you used tampons. You could be excused from participating in gym class if you had your period, including showers. But if you did not want to shower because there was no privacy to remove pads, etc. you had to publicly declare you you were on your period, which was marked down and tracked.

World- wide, the lack of access to period products is an issue for girls, especially those living in poverty or in less developed nations. It causes them to miss a substantial number of class days—a quarter of their class time.

 

[Oleg]

Works wide, the lack of access to period products is an issue for girls, especially those living in poverty or in less developed nations.

But up to maybe yesterday, it wasn’t an issue for period products not to be available in the woman’s public restroom. All those years of feminism, and nothing. It’s only an issue now for the pretext of putting period products in the male public restroom. This is not about need; it’s about imposing on everyone else the ideology that men menstruate.

 

[TSwizzle]

So now the girls get to go on a tampon scavenger hunt looking for tampons in the boys rest room!! Fun days indeed!!

These people make no sense whatsoever.

 

[Toni]

So now the girls get to go on a tampon scavenger hunt looking for tampons in the boys rest room!! Fun days indeed!!

These people make no sense whatsoever.

Your post makes no sense.

 

[TSwizzle]

So now the girls get to go on a tampon scavenger hunt looking for tampons in the boys rest room!! Fun days indeed!!

These people make no sense whatsoever.

Your post makes no sense.

Men can't menstruate, does that make sense to you or not?

 

[Toni]

So now the girls get to go on a tampon scavenger hunt looking for tampons in the boys rest room!! Fun days indeed!!

These people make no sense whatsoever.

Your post makes no sense.

Men can't menstruate, does that make sense to you or not?

Definition of MAN

an individual human; especially : an adult male human; a man belonging to a particular category (as by birth, residence, membership, or occupation) —usually used in combination; husband… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

 

[Oleg]

So now the girls get to go on a tampon scavenger hunt looking for tampons in the boys rest room!! Fun days indeed!!

These people make no sense whatsoever.

Your post makes no sense.

Men can't menstruate, does that make sense to you or not?

Definition of MAN

an individual human; especially : an adult male human; a man belonging to a particular category (as by birth, residence, membership, or occupation) —usually used in combination; husband… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

She's got ya there T dawg. Man is generic for all humanity. Though I thought "mankind" had become a naughty word.

 

[TSwizzle]

Works wide, the lack of access to period products is an issue for girls, especially those living in poverty or in less developed nations.

But up to maybe yesterday, it wasn’t an issue for period products not to be available in the woman’s public restroom. All those years of feminism, and nothing. It’s only an issue now for the pretext of putting period products in the male public restroom. This is not about need; it’s about imposing on everyone else the ideology that men menstruate.

According to Toni, women the world over are in desperate need of feminine hygiene products but they should be squirrelled away in the boys restroom for boys who don't menstruate.

These people make no sense whatsoever. None.

 

[Toni]

Works wide, the lack of access to period products is an issue for girls, especially those living in poverty or in less developed nations.

But up to maybe yesterday, it wasn’t an issue for period products not to be available in the woman’s public restroom. All those years of feminism, and nothing. It’s only an issue now for the pretext of putting period products in the male public restroom. This is not about need; it’s about imposing on everyone else the ideology that men menstruate.

According to Toni, women the world over are in desperate need of feminine hygiene products but they should be squirrelled away in the boys restroom for boys who don't menstruate.

These people make no sense whatsoever. None.

If you have a point to make, you should not have to misrepresent what I write in order to make it.

NO ONE is suggesting that girls' bathrooms should not also have menstrual products.

Only a few people are insisting that there are NO students, likely trans individuals, who would benefit from menstrual products in all bathrooms.

Not that long ago, only women's bathrooms had stations for diaper changing. Then the fact that men also could be responsible for changing diapers became...more mainstream.

I have NO desire to go back to 'the way things were' when people who feel as though they were born in the wrong bodies were also made to feel they could not actually be themselves but had to pretend to be what they were not in order to survive, much less be accepted.

Things change. People grow in awareness. Or at least some people do.