Mississippi Passes "More Dead Kids Please" bill. Texas responds w/ "hold my beer"

[Bomb#20]

If the Earth isn't round how can I be here? I have left home going west and returned still going west. Twice.

 

[Trebaxian Vir]

I rarely ever see so many words used to say so little. In fact, I think I can say this is the first time I've ever seen a post masturbate itself.​

In your “paraphrasis” of my post you overlooked a prodigious 95% of the notions I communicated. It was imperative for my argument that such ideas be conveyed. Owing to your omission of these, you have grossly misportrayed my convictions, making it out as if I uttered the antithesis of my beliefs! Moreover, you would have me make statements that are misleading, since you neglected to incorporate the wordy but very necesssary stipulations and reservations I delineated.
 “Nay, Ixabert; you amalgamate germane utterances into paragraphs, occupying less extent overall than if you fragmented them into manifold posts.
 “You mustn't consolidate such copious well-formulated notions within a solitary post, regardless of how pithy your articulations. If you had broken it up into multiple posts of one sentence each, I'd have been OK with it.
 “For each individual sentence is succinctly said—the quintessence of concision, I willingly concede!—yet I would rather not acknowledge my own cognitive deficiencies. Therefore it is the length of your paragraphs that is at fault, not my limited capacity for sustained concentration.”
   —Jimmy Higgins​

 

[Trebaxian Vir]

The truth of the matter is, I employed the scantiest of verbiage to express my perspective. My paragraph brim with many clear and distinct ideas. Perhaps my ideas are too copious for your limited attention span to assimilate in one session. Perhaps you are more obtuse than you think you are.
 I know for a fact,that if I disassembled the same paragraphs into discrete sentences and dispersed them as a succession of distinct posts, I am confident you would possess the cognitive wherewithal for sustained focus. You would look upon my posts as the very broth of brevity. Allow me to demonstrate--let's go through each sentence one by one:​

1. "You would look upon my posts as the very broth of brevity." Comment: Not verbose.​
2. "If I disassembled the same paragraphs into discrete sentences and dispersed them as a succession of distinct posts, I am confident you would possess the cognitive wherewithal for sustained focus." Comment: Longish, though only relative to contemporary literature. Certainly not needlessly verbose. About the minimum of verbiage needed to convey all of the ideas with the desired degree of fluidity. All of the ideas necessitate conveyance, not solely the meager 5% that you are inclined to transmit within your inept endeavours to paraphrase my expressions.​
3. "The truth of the matter is, I employed the scantiest of verbiage to express my perspective." Comment: Not prolixious in the slightest. Shall we go on?​

Should it be requested, I have the time and the ability to meticulously (sic) go through the entirety of my contributions within this very discussion, once sentence at a time. I am willing to offer my commentary on each and every individual utterance I have made, if you are so minded. I can demonstrate that in every instance, I employed the scantest of verbiage required to communicate the thoughts I intended to express.​

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

The truth of the matter is, I employed the scantiest of verbiage to express my perspective.​

 

[Trebaxian Vir]

The truth of the matter is, I employed the scantiest of verbiage to express my perspective.​

​

Shall I offer my commentary on each sentence one by one? (Was this sentence concise? Yes, it was.)
 I have proferred you a prelude of such an undertaking hereinabove. (Was this sentence concise? Yes.)
 Chortle as you might; any perspicacious mind surpassing the intellect of a midwit will discern your conflation of brevity with low word count. (Was this sentence concise? Yes.)
 Word count is not an apposite gauge of brevity when the abundance of ideas burgeons. (Was this sentence concise? Yes.)
 This predicament, conjoined with a lethargic intellect, engenders a disinclination to grapple with ideas, thereby creating the illusion that your adversary proffers scant ideas. (Was this sentence concise? Yes. Was it a complex sentence? Yes. Are complexity and concision mutually exclusive? Obviously not.)
 Naturally, such accusations merely arise when individuals aspire to outshine another in disputation. You are naught but an ankle-nibbler, endeavoring to assail the extremities of your betters. It's all you can do. (Were the preceding sentences concise? Of course they were.)
 Did I say a lot? Yes, and I expressed each individual thought in a very concise manner. I used the minimum number of words necessary to convey all of my thoughts on the matter with the desired degree of fluidity. (Were these sentences concise? Yes, and anyone who says otherwise is lying.)​

 

[Jarhyn]

It's kind of funny insofar as many here (including me) are professionals at software engineering: the art of identifying necessary and unnecessary verbiage, and packaging that verbiage in the most succinct and efficient way.

 

[TomC]

It's kind of funny

That's not even the funniest part.

Tom

 

[Jarhyn]

It's kind of funny

That's not even the funniest part.

Tom

Honestly very little of it is funny, seeing as how Texas is already abducting trans kids from their parents for being allowed to voluntarily take a pill to postpone puberty, because "they aren't old enough to make that decision yet".

Even if they are old enough to have A decision forced upon them?

 

[Oleg]

Even if they are old enough to have A decision forced upon them?

Think of all the kids who are forced to go to school. If they already know their true gender at age eight, surely they should be able to make irrevocable life decisions about their education at the same time? Compulsory school is slavery. And if a boy or girl says they’re a superhero, we should affirm their superpowers. Go ahead, Timmy, jump off the roof and fly. We believe in you. Gravity is a social construct.

 

[Toni]

This is perhaps a little bit off topic but I'm curious about other people's thoughts and also if they have sources that discuss this:

Is it me, or does it seem that there are many more trans individuals than there were say, 50-100 years ago? Is it mostly a case that society has changed and now it is possible to discuss this?

I am aware that many cultures today and in the past have recognized more genders than two.

 

[Oleg]

This is perhaps a little bit off topic but I'm curious about other people's thoughts and also if they have sources that discuss this:

Is it me, or does it seem that there are many more trans individuals than there were say, 50-100 years ago? Is it mostly a case that society has changed and now it is possible to discuss this?

I am aware that many cultures today and in the past have recognized more genders than two.

It’s a social contagen.

Parent reports of adolescents and young adults perceived to show signs of a rapid onset of gender dysphoria

Purpose In on-line forums, parents have reported that their children seemed to experience a sudden or rapid onset of gender dysphoria, appearing for the first time during puberty or even after its completion. Parents describe that the onset of gender dysphoria seemed to occur in the context of...

journals.plos.org

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

More people exist today that 50 to 100 years ago, so there would statistically be more. Of course there is also the issue of trans existing and you being aware they existed.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

It's kind of funny insofar as many here (including me) are professionals at software engineering: the art of identifying necessary and unnecessary verbiage, and packaging that verbiage in the most succinct and efficient way.

Indeed, I remember getting hammered down in Engineering classes for writing untechnically. There are different types of writing. Technical, minimalist, creative, and for some thesaurus diarrhea. I'm just imagining the worst way to Hello World in code.

Manager: 100 MB program to print Hello World?
Worker: Well, you need to look under the hood to see just how tight the code really is.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

This is perhaps a little bit off topic but I'm curious about other people's thoughts and also if they have sources that discuss this:

Is it me, or does it seem that there are many more trans individuals than there were say, 50-100 years ago? Is it mostly a case that society has changed and now it is possible to discuss this?

I am aware that many cultures today and in the past have recognized more genders than two.

It’s a social contagen.

Parent reports of adolescents and young adults perceived to show signs of a rapid onset of gender dysphoria

Purpose In on-line forums, parents have reported that their children seemed to experience a sudden or rapid onset of gender dysphoria, appearing for the first time during puberty or even after its completion. Parents describe that the onset of gender dysphoria seemed to occur in the context of...

journals.plos.org

Jebus... you make it sound like it is a brand of sneakers or jeans that children just have to have to be cool. I don't think anyone on the planet WANTS to be transgendered.

 

[Oleg]

Of course there is also the issue of trans existing and you being aware they existed.

And the media pressure to affirm gender ideology; trans flags in classrooms; adults lying to children that they can change their sex; etc.

 

[Oleg]

This is perhaps a little bit off topic but I'm curious about other people's thoughts and also if they have sources that discuss this:

Is it me, or does it seem that there are many more trans individuals than there were say, 50-100 years ago? Is it mostly a case that society has changed and now it is possible to discuss this?

I am aware that many cultures today and in the past have recognized more genders than two.

It’s a social contagen.

Parent reports of adolescents and young adults perceived to show signs of a rapid onset of gender dysphoria

Purpose In on-line forums, parents have reported that their children seemed to experience a sudden or rapid onset of gender dysphoria, appearing for the first time during puberty or even after its completion. Parents describe that the onset of gender dysphoria seemed to occur in the context of...

journals.plos.org

Jebus... you make it sound like it is a brand of sneakers or jeans that children just have to have to be cool. I don't think anyone on the planet WANTS to be transgendered.

Have you just forgotten what it’s like being an adolescent?

 

[Oleg]

Teenager. Obvious cutter. How does the gender cult “treat” her - by cutting her more.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Being a skeptic of something where the evidence is overwhelming is simply a fancy way of being a denier.​

My dear, the term 'denier' reeks of religious connotations, whereas I am but a sceptic. To deny suggests an assertive rejection, whereas my stance is one of withholding belief in the declarations of two opposing factions. In essence, my position cannot be accurately described as one of denial, but rather a cautious reservation of judgment. ​

You are making the fallacy of treating not acting as not being a decision.

If the Earth isn't round how can I be here? I have left home going west and returned still going west. Twice.​

 For aught I know to the contrary, our earth may well be a sphere of magnitudes vastly grander than anyone has ever dared to conceive, or perhaps it bears no discernible shape or foundation whatever, and could be likened to a holographic projection, as a natural phenomenon that defies conventional understanding. It could even be the 'basement' of the universe, for lack of a better term, with you circumnavigating the North Pole in a big circle which would be indistinguishible from a straight line, a phenomenon that would hold true on both a spherical and flat plane, by the way. Alas, the example you provide does not favour one model over the other. In truth, neither you nor I can profess to be in possession of any certitude regarding the nature of our earth. Those who claim to have unshakable knowledge on such enigmatic matters are merely indulging in the sweet deception of self-delusion​

If my travels had been confined to northerly latitudes you would be correct. However, the southernmost points of the second trip were Sydney and Johannesburg--far enough south that I would most certainly have noticed the difference in flight times. Hint: Jetliners normally all fly at the same speed on long overwater flights. (This is a safety measure as such flights are outside radar coverage. The rules ensure that other planes you might encounter will be moving slowly relative to you.)

I have also never seen an adequate explanation of time zones in a flat Earth model. My wife's family lives 8 time zones away, think we aren't quite familiar with the difference, both in electronic communication and in airplanes?

Except you haven't cited any evidence against a round Earth or for a flat Earth.​

 One need not present evidence for this or that stance when one adheres to neither. The absence of compelling evidence for either side only serves to fuel my scepticism towards both positions. What meets the eye, it seems, is either a web of deceit spun by the proponents of each view or a collection of observations compatible with an array of models, encompassing the globe and flat earth theories among others. Truly, the situation presents itself as a bewildering muddle.​

On the left we have an elephant. On the right we have nothing. To say you are unsure of the position of the scale makes you a denier.

 

[TomC]

I don't think anyone on the planet WANTS to be transgendered.

Do you know the term "bug chaser"?

It refers to gay men who want to be infected with HIV. Small number, but yeah. People are weird and sometimes very self destructive.

There's just no 'splainin.
Tom

 

[Loren Pechtel]

The fact that someone hasn't a strong position on, say, the shape of the earth, is kind of laughable.

It's basic geometry, and I can think back on my life to multiple times where I had to directly rely on the shape of the earth being spherical to accomplish some task, mostly with aligning satellite dishes to geosynchronous orbit.

Yup, I've done that more than once. The second time took careful computation because the dish had to look through a gap that would be only several degrees wide--the mounting had to be done correctly, there was very little adjusting that was possible.