How should west respond to potential (likely) Russian invasion of Ukraine?

[barbos]

Well, what use are they now? What would satisfy Russia?

They ARE useless now. That was not the point.
The point was, that you (the west) are full of shit and can not ever be trusted.
You (the west) are utter scum.

 

[barbos]

Ukraine will be made whole.

Russian population is slowly turning against it.
Ukraine can not be left alone with western scum.
Georgia learned their lesson and quite happy with their de-facto neutral status.
Ukraine must be fully occupied and integrated back into Russia.
Will it be done? I personally doubt. But in my opinion it should be done.

Wondering if this post could be moved to the Humor thread?

Move all you want, but that's the mood in Russia, prevailing among educated people.

 

[Harry Bosch]

Ukraine will be made whole.

Russian population is slowly turning against it.
Ukraine can not be left alone with western scum.
Georgia learned their lesson and quite happy with their de-facto neutral status.
Ukraine must be fully occupied and integrated back into Russia.
Will it be done? I personally doubt. But in my opinion it should be done.

Wondering if this post could be moved to the Humor thread?

Move all you want, but that's the mood in Russia, prevailing among educated people.

I don't disagree with you here. I actually think that a majority, maybe a slim majority, of Russians agree with you. And therefore, probably no worthwhile peace will suffice long term. Therefore, the only lasting solution is to bring Ukraine into Nato.

 

[barbos]

Ukraine will be made whole.

Russian population is slowly turning against it.
Ukraine can not be left alone with western scum.
Georgia learned their lesson and quite happy with their de-facto neutral status.
Ukraine must be fully occupied and integrated back into Russia.
Will it be done? I personally doubt. But in my opinion it should be done.

Wondering if this post could be moved to the Humor thread?

Move all you want, but that's the mood in Russia, prevailing among educated people.

I don't disagree with you here. I actually think that a majority, maybe a slim majority, of Russians agree with you. And therefore, probably no worthwhile peace will suffice long term. Therefore, the only lasting solution is to bring Ukraine into Nato.

You gave an excellent reason for a full and unconditional occupation of Ukraine.
And you are not listening. I said majority of educated (in the topic) people support occupation and reintegration of Ukraine into Russia.
There is simply no other choice which would lead to peace.

 

[steve_bank]

Russian revolution led to an oppressive regime. Regime failed followed by a few years of potenia;l stability. Eventually the old order reestablished itself, authoritarianism, military conquest, and corruption.

The regime is again bringing about its own destruction and fostering a poential revolution.

A recurring Russian theme while the west through difficulties moves forward.

Hitler had no choice but to keep on keeping on, as with Putin. Putin can no longer control events, he can only stay alive as long as possible at any cost to others.

China pragmatically adjusted. While authoritarian and oppressive, Chinese leaders have improved the lives of the Chinese people.

Russia seems like it is always a dark, dull place.

If things do fall apart the question is who ends up controlling the nukes. Other than that I could care less.

 

[barbos]

Russian revolution led to an oppressive regime. Regime failed followed by a few years of potenia;l stability. Eventually the old order reestablished itself, authoritarianism, military conquest, and corruption.

The regime is again bringing about its own destruction and fostering a poential revolution.

A recurring Russian theme while the west through difficulties moves forward.

Hitler had no choice but to keep on keeping on, as with Putin. Putin can no longer control events, he can only stay alive as long as possible at any cost to others.

China pragmatically adjusted. While authoritarian and oppressive, Chinese leaders have improved the lives of the Chinese people.

Russia seems like it is always a dark, dull place.

If things do fall apart the question is who ends up controlling the nukes. Other than that I could care less.

You are regurgitating the shit you are being subjected to by your Media. They are lying to you.
Russians don't consider themselves oppressed, and they are not. Your usual list of "oppressed" Russians non-withstanding.

 

[Elixir]

The entire western hemisphere (possible exception of Argentina) and Western Europe are all inhuman scum according to our little Ruskie. This bespeaks the reason we need to put a shock collar on the bear. They have always been in the business of devaluing human life.

 

[ZiprHead]

Funny how you can't seem to be able to name those "actual" generals. Or any of your other sources

I can do better than that, I can name an actual american colonel who said that.

First you said it was generalS. Now it's one colonel that you can name but won't.

How much bullshit do you expect us to tolerate?

 

[Elixir]

How much bullshit do you expect us to tolerate?

Rhetorical question?
How much bullshit has he already dumped on this form?

 

[barbos]

Funny how you can't seem to be able to name those "actual" generals. Or any of your other sources

I can do better than that, I can name an actual american colonel who said that.

First you said it was generalS. Now it's one colonel that you can name but won't.

How much bullshit do you expect us to tolerate?

I don't want to search for the name of the general. And colonel is way better than general.
What would be the point anyway, you always ignore any evidence you don't like.
As for the generalS, is english your native language?

 

[TV and credit cards]

Funny how you can't seem to be able to name those "actual" generals. Or any of your other sources

I can do better than that, I can name an actual american colonel who said that.

First you said it was generalS. Now it's one colonel that you can name but won't.

How much bullshit do you expect us to tolerate?

Well, if it's ruble(s) per reply, he'll stretch it out as long as possible.

 

[ZiprHead]

Funny how you can't seem to be able to name those "actual" generals. Or any of your other sources

I can do better than that, I can name an actual american colonel who said that.

First you said it was generalS. Now it's one colonel that you can name but won't.

How much bullshit do you expect us to tolerate?

I don't want to search for the name of the general. And colonel is way better than general.
What would be the point anyway, you always ignore any evidence you don't like.
As for the generalS, is english your native language?

Is being obtuse your natural state?

And we don't ignore, we check out for confirmation and it's usually BS.

 

[barbos]

Funny how you can't seem to be able to name those "actual" generals. Or any of your other sources

I can do better than that, I can name an actual american colonel who said that.

First you said it was generalS. Now it's one colonel that you can name but won't.

How much bullshit do you expect us to tolerate?

I don't want to search for the name of the general. And colonel is way better than general.
What would be the point anyway, you always ignore any evidence you don't like.
As for the generalS, is english your native language?

Is being obtuse your natural state?

And we don't ignore, we check out for confirmation and it's usually BS.

What you post is usually BS. What I post is usually correct, that's why you keep asking for confirmation.
You are hoping to find one example where it was BS. I don't really care for opinions of american generals or colonels for that matter.
Or rather, I don't care for ranks.
But it was mentioned in the news somewhere.
But if you care, you are free to look, You can start with watching pro-russia youtube channels
Who knows, you might switch sides

 

[ZiprHead]

Funny how you can't seem to be able to name those "actual" generals. Or any of your other sources

I can do better than that, I can name an actual american colonel who said that.

First you said it was generalS. Now it's one colonel that you can name but won't.

How much bullshit do you expect us to tolerate?

I don't want to search for the name of the general. And colonel is way better than general.
What would be the point anyway, you always ignore any evidence you don't like.
As for the generalS, is english your native language?

Is being obtuse your natural state?

And we don't ignore, we check out for confirmation and it's usually BS.

What you post is usually BS. What I post is usually correct, that's why you keep asking for confirmation.
You are hoping to find one example where it was BS. I don't really care for opinions of american generals or colonels for that matter.
It's just that it was mentioned in the news somewhere.
But if you care, you are free to look, You can start with watching pro-russia youtube channels
Who knows, you might switch sides

Yeah, somewhere. Somewhere...

Somewhere over the rainbow...

 

[barbos]

Yeah, somewhere. Somewhere...

Don't care. You are on record ignoring links I provided after your request.
Why should I bother with you?

 

[Copernicus]

...
What would be the point anyway, you always ignore any evidence you don't like.
...

The usual excuse for his refusal to give actual evidence. Then, when nobody tries to refute his unevidenced claim, he scolds them for ignoring evidence.

 

[steve_bank]

People vote with their feet.

People want to go to Canada, USA, and the western systems. Freedom and opportunity. A minimum of coruption and abuse of power. Indvdual rights. Rule of law. Due process.

NK sends workers to Russia. Other than that who wants to move to Russia?

Russia has been declining for a long time. Poor nutrition. Declining population. A dismal economy.


I never was an overt American fag waver, but there t is. The west vs Russia in human terms. Russia comes up short. A dark cultural ugliness, a death spiral.

Remember Putin's Olympic fiasco? He wanted to project Russian power. Poor quality unfinished construction projects. The same old Soviet incompetence and centralized rule.

On paper the Russian military sholdd have quicky taken control of Ukraine. Again, the old Soviet incompetence. A rag tag ill equipped Ukrainian army initially held off and puched back the full might of the Russian military, and then westrn support came into play.

F16s may be the final nail in the Russian coffin. Ukrainian air superiority.

 

[ZiprHead]

Yeah, somewhere. Somewhere...

Don't care. You are on record ignoring links I provided after your request.
Why should I bother with you?

Fine. Continue to display your self as a person with no integrity and ethics just like your stupid ass country.

 

[Tigers!]

Well, what use are they now? What would satisfy Russia?

They ARE useless now. That was not the point.
The point was, that you (the west) are full of shit and can not ever be trusted.
You (the west) are utter scum.

Tell us what you really think of us.
Don't hold back.

 

[steve_bank]

Putin tore up the agreement Russia signed that guaranteed Ukrainian sovereignty in exchange for giving up its nukes.

Don't know about Canada and western Europe. Here in the USA we have an obesity problem, we have far more food available to most people than anyone possibly needs to survive.

Our grocery stores are always well stocked. Fresh fruits and vegtavl;es everyday of the year. Fresh eggs and milk everyday. Plenty of fish,chicken, and beef. Plenty of bread.

Barbos, how about the average Russian food store?

Shoes, clothes, underwear?