What a lot of conservatives feel is attacked.
oh, first time?
yeah that’s hard. Wait’ll year 400.
What a lot of conservatives feel is attacked.
Feel? What does feeling have to do with anything if I'm an adult and I can think and act rationally? I'm supposed to have mastered those "feelings" that controlled my behavior when I was a child.What a lot of conservatives feel is attacked.
oh, first time?
yeah that’s hard. Wait’ll year 400.
‘Supposed to’ is the operative phrase here.Feel? What does feeling have to do with anything if I'm an adult and I can think and act rationally? I'm supposed to have mastered those "feelings" that controlled my behavior when I was a child.What a lot of conservatives feel is attacked.
oh, first time?
yeah that’s hard. Wait’ll year 400.
LIke what?It is more urgent today than ever before that we look for common ground. There is a lot there. We just need to pay more attention to it.
Letting our feelings rule our actions and responses is the antithesis of being a mature grownup.Feelings: We all got ‘em.
We all need to deal with them.
Stuffing them down inside until we are numb to anything except outrage is not being a mature grown up.
That is all well and good, but it ignores an observational reality that a large promotion of people who are chronologically adults have not mastered their feelings to such a degree. And I would add I see no difference in proportions based on ideology. In my view, it is part of the human condition.Letting our feelings rule our actions and responses is the antithesis of being a mature grownup.Feelings: We all got ‘em.
We all need to deal with them.
Stuffing them down inside until we are numb to anything except outrage is not being a mature grown up.
Mastering our feelings doesn’t mean suppressing them as you imply. TGG is talking about knowing the difference between an impulse (feeling) and a considered response/action, and choosing the appropriate one in a given situation.
(Correct me if I’m wrong, TGG)
Good jobsLIke what?It is more urgent today than ever before that we look for common ground. There is a lot there. We just need to pay more attention to it.
I can only think of really fundamental stuff like Maslowe's hierarchy of needs.
Can you think of any policies that would appeal to people based on this common ground?
As far as I can tell people who live in different environs and have different social and economic priorities usually benefit from different government policies, and therefore fall into different political interest groups to be carved out and won over. Politics inevitabilty pits such interest groups against each other.
I don't even know what people in country towns need to make their lives significantly and immediately better but I'm pretty sure it's quite different than what I need in the suburbs/city.
I agree that is how mature adults manage their emotions and how they respect other people’s emotions.Letting our feelings rule our actions and responses is the antithesis of being a mature grownup.Feelings: We all got ‘em.
We all need to deal with them.
Stuffing them down inside until we are numb to anything except outrage is not being a mature grown up.
Mastering our feelings doesn’t mean suppressing them as you imply. TGG is talking about knowing the difference between an impulse (feeling) and a considered response/action, and choosing the appropriate one in a given situation.
(Correct me if I’m wrong, TGG)
Has it always been so, or has a culture of immaturity risen with the anti truth cult of personality that has enveloped some 30% of the American public?a large promotion of people who are chronologically adults have not mastered their feelings to such a degree
My town and my County have undergone radical transformation in the 26 years I’ve lived here. 25 years ago there was an insurgency of artists and musicians - you know, “enlightened” types who tended to look down on the locals, whether they were unemployed former molybdenum miners, cattle ranchers or hay farmers. Then in the early 2000s, the money started to show up. Tech employees were suddenly able to live wherever they wanted, and hordes of them descended on the area. That seemed to have a surprising equalizing effect. Local rancher’s’ knowledge of the local ecology, for instance, became valuable to people whose interest was purely recreational. Artists representations started becoming more literal and less interpretive, making it accessible even to those locals who have been rightfully fearful of displacement.people tend to know when others think they matter and when others look down upon them. Even without Ivy League educations.
You ask a good question. I like to think that the proportions haven’t changed haven’t changed much. I like to think what has changed is the avenues for quick public dissemination. But what I like to think is true and what is true are not necessarily the same.Has it always been so, or has a culture of immaturity risen with the anti truth cult of personality that has enveloped some 30% of the American public?a large promotion of people who are chronologically adults have not mastered their feelings to such a degree
Seems to me that Trumpism is, at its heart, a permission slip for a range of infantile behavioral responses to intrusive realities (like Trump’s criminal conduct).
Perhaps it has always existed and Trumpism just focuses it, but I think it’s actually new.
For most of my life I felt like there was broad general agreement across the social spectrum about what was good and what was bad, and it seems that now, that has been turned on it’s head.
Indeed. Of course when conservatives are proudly telling liberals "fuck your feelings", makes it a but harder to empathize... especially while supporting the actual policies that'd help conservatives in economically lagging areas... while the conservatives actively reject those policies.I agree that is how mature adults manage their emotions and how they respect other people’s emotions.Letting our feelings rule our actions and responses is the antithesis of being a mature grownup.Feelings: We all got ‘em.
We all need to deal with them.
Stuffing them down inside until we are numb to anything except outrage is not being a mature grown up.
Mastering our feelings doesn’t mean suppressing them as you imply. TGG is talking about knowing the difference between an impulse (feeling) and a considered response/action, and choosing the appropriate one in a given situation.
(Correct me if I’m wrong, TGG)
But what I hear from a lot of my fellow liberals is a lot of unstated fuck your feelings and we college educated people know what’s best for YOU. Wrapped up in a lot of politically correct verbiage, of course.Indeed. Of course when conservatives are proudly telling liberals "fuck your feelings", makes it a but harder to empathize... especially while supporting the actual policies that'd help conservatives in economically lagging areas... while the conservatives actively reject those policies.I agree that is how mature adults manage their emotions and how they respect other people’s emotions.Letting our feelings rule our actions and responses is the antithesis of being a mature grownup.Feelings: We all got ‘em.
We all need to deal with them.
Stuffing them down inside until we are numb to anything except outrage is not being a mature grown up.
Mastering our feelings doesn’t mean suppressing them as you imply. TGG is talking about knowing the difference between an impulse (feeling) and a considered response/action, and choosing the appropriate one in a given situation.
(Correct me if I’m wrong, TGG)
You HEAR that?But what I hear from a lot of my fellow liberals is a lot of unstated fuck your feelings and we college educated people know what’s best for YOU.
UNsaid, and almost purely unintended.what is unsaid is that the feelings and sensibilities of conservatives have been ignored and ridiculed by liberals for years.
So: rural and small town people are stupid.You HEAR that?But what I hear from a lot of my fellow liberals is a lot of unstated fuck your feelings and we college educated people know what’s best for YOU.
I suspect that you FEEL it.
UNsaid, and almost purely unintended.what is unsaid is that the feelings and sensibilities of conservatives have been ignored and ridiculed by liberals for years.
Stupid people have been ignored and ridiculed by smart people, and ignorant people have been ridiculed and ignored by informed people since time immemorial. We can change that if there’s some reason to heed the stupid and the ignorant, I suppose. Seems like you, Toni, are doing your best to heed their concerns. How’s that working out?
BTW, I freely ridicule or ignore the stupid and the ignorant as groups, but treat the stupid/ignorant individuals with due consideration and respect, just for their basic humanity - which varies very little between us. Nonetheless I dont want them making decisions for the rest of us.
Have conservatives ever done anything wrong, or is everything bad the fault of meanie liberals?But what I hear from a lot of my fellow liberals is a lot of unstated fuck your feelings and we college educated people know what’s best for YOU. Wrapped up in a lot of politically correct verbiage, of course.Indeed. Of course when conservatives are proudly telling liberals "fuck your feelings", makes it a but harder to empathize... especially while supporting the actual policies that'd help conservatives in economically lagging areas... while the conservatives actively reject those policies.I agree that is how mature adults manage their emotions and how they respect other people’s emotions.Letting our feelings rule our actions and responses is the antithesis of being a mature grownup.Feelings: We all got ‘em.
We all need to deal with them.
Stuffing them down inside until we are numb to anything except outrage is not being a mature grown up.
Mastering our feelings doesn’t mean suppressing them as you imply. TGG is talking about knowing the difference between an impulse (feeling) and a considered response/action, and choosing the appropriate one in a given situation.
(Correct me if I’m wrong, TGG)
When conservatives cry fuck your feelings ( which, tbh, I only hear liberals talk about) maybe it should occur to liberals that what is unsaid is that the feelings and sensibilities of conservatives have been ignored and ridiculed by liberals for years. Or it seems that way to conservatives.
In this thread or another I wrote about a family member’s farm that was taken by imminent domain to put in a necessary stretch of interstate, for which they were compensated but it destroyed a multigenerational farmstead—and forced a retirement of someone who wasn’t ready.
Now, if this were an urban black neighborhood, there would be a plot of sympathy for the loss of homes, and more importantly, neighborhood.
It’s the same damn thing. But liberals feel sorry for urban black peopl, many f whom have the same conservative family values as the rural farmers who, where I grew up were white. There is to me, a clear racial component to the sympathy and empathy white liberal people are willing to show sympathy for.
People are people are people.
And yeah,, during the Obama era, I suddenly started to see big jacked up trucks with the stars and bats flying in this very far from the Mason Dixon state.
Perhaps you're mistaking the recognition that black people have it much worse as a lack of sympathy for white people.There is to me, a clear racial component to the sympathy and empathy white liberal people are willing to show sympathy for.
If you think liberals are mean, wait until you hear about what right-wingers say about the left/center:But what I hear from a lot of my fellow liberals is a lot of unstated fuck your feelings and we college educated people know what’s best for YOU. Wrapped up in a lot of politically correct verbiage, of course.
But what I hear from a lot of my fellow liberals is a lot of unstated fuck your feelings and we college educated people know what’s best for YOU. Wrapped up in a lot of politically correct verbiage, of course.Indeed. Of course when conservatives are proudly telling liberals "fuck your feelings", makes it a but harder to empathize... especially while supporting the actual policies that'd help conservatives in economically lagging areas... while the conservatives actively reject those policies.I agree that is how mature adults manage their emotions and how they respect other people’s emotions.Letting our feelings rule our actions and responses is the antithesis of being a mature grownup.Feelings: We all got ‘em.
We all need to deal with them.
Stuffing them down inside until we are numb to anything except outrage is not being a mature grown up.
Mastering our feelings doesn’t mean suppressing them as you imply. TGG is talking about knowing the difference between an impulse (feeling) and a considered response/action, and choosing the appropriate one in a given situation.
(Correct me if I’m wrong, TGG)
When conservatives cry fuck your feelings ( which, tbh, I only hear liberals talk about) maybe it should occur to liberals that what is unsaid is that the feelings and sensibilities of conservatives have been ignored and ridiculed by liberals for years. Or it seems that way to conservatives.
Have you ever made a thoughtful post that made an honest attempt to understand the conversation or are you just in it for the lols?Have conservatives ever done anything wrong, or is everything bad the fault of meanie liberals?But what I hear from a lot of my fellow liberals is a lot of unstated fuck your feelings and we college educated people know what’s best for YOU. Wrapped up in a lot of politically correct verbiage, of course.Indeed. Of course when conservatives are proudly telling liberals "fuck your feelings", makes it a but harder to empathize... especially while supporting the actual policies that'd help conservatives in economically lagging areas... while the conservatives actively reject those policies.I agree that is how mature adults manage their emotions and how they respect other people’s emotions.Letting our feelings rule our actions and responses is the antithesis of being a mature grownup.Feelings: We all got ‘em.
We all need to deal with them.
Stuffing them down inside until we are numb to anything except outrage is not being a mature grown up.
Mastering our feelings doesn’t mean suppressing them as you imply. TGG is talking about knowing the difference between an impulse (feeling) and a considered response/action, and choosing the appropriate one in a given situation.
(Correct me if I’m wrong, TGG)
When conservatives cry fuck your feelings ( which, tbh, I only hear liberals talk about) maybe it should occur to liberals that what is unsaid is that the feelings and sensibilities of conservatives have been ignored and ridiculed by liberals for years. Or it seems that way to conservatives.
In this thread or another I wrote about a family member’s farm that was taken by imminent domain to put in a necessary stretch of interstate, for which they were compensated but it destroyed a multigenerational farmstead—and forced a retirement of someone who wasn’t ready.
Now, if this were an urban black neighborhood, there would be a plot of sympathy for the loss of homes, and more importantly, neighborhood.
It’s the same damn thing. But liberals feel sorry for urban black peopl, many f whom have the same conservative family values as the rural farmers who, where I grew up were white. There is to me, a clear racial component to the sympathy and empathy white liberal people are willing to show sympathy for.
People are people are people.
And yeah,, during the Obama era, I suddenly started to see big jacked up trucks with the stars and bats flying in this very far from the Mason Dixon state.