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"The law that entropy always increases holds, I think, the supreme position among the laws of Nature. If someone points out to you that your pet theory of the universe is in disagreement with Maxwell's equations — then so much the worse for Maxwell's equations. If it is found to be contradicted by observation — well, these experimentalists do bungle things sometimes. But if your theory is found to be against the second law of thermodynamics I can give you no hope; there is nothing for it but to collapse in deepest humiliation."


—Sir Arthur Stanley Eddington, The Nature of the Physical World (1927)
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Wiploc said:
"The law that entropy always increases holds, I think, the supreme position among the laws of Nature. If someone points out to you that your pet theory of the universe is in disagreement with Maxwell's equations — then so much the worse for Maxwell's equations. If it is found to be contradicted by observation — well, these experimentalists do bungle things sometimes. But if your theory is found to be against the second law of thermodynamics I can give you no hope; there is nothing for it but to collapse in deepest humiliation."


—Sir Arthur Stanley Eddington, The Nature of the Physical World (1927)
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Another relevant point is open versus isolated or closed system views. The magnets will degrade exposed to the elements for instance.
 
Elixir said:
Can anyone here explain this? All i can think is that it HAS to run down...
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Well, the "tile surface" the thing is on gets moved by the guy around 55 seconds in. Could be hiding an induction device underneath it.

The 2 "popsicle sticks" that are pressed together could be some type of heat sensitive metals that generate current when heat is absorbed or given off.

Elixir said:
Also, I can get it to embed... can facebook videos be made to appear here?
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I don't know, but I searched for it on google and found the youtube (about a minute in, check from about 50 seconds in, look at the way the "tiles" move when the guy moves it):
[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeqaSC7yNbU&feature=player_detailpage#t=52[/YOUTUBE]
 
Elixir said:
Can anyone here explain this? All i can think is that it HAS to run down...
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Most likely there's a battery hidden in one of the "electromagnets". But in the event that the "inventor" wanted to get fancy and/or wanted to eventually allow a skeptic to rip the thing apart on Youtube in order to "prove" they were really just electromagnets, then it presumably runs on the J.P. Morgan principle.


Your invention is brilliant, Mr. Tesla; but where do we put the meter?

 
Bomb#20 said:
Elixir said:
Can anyone here explain this? All i can think is that it HAS to run down...
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Most likely there's a battery hidden in one of the "electromagnets". But in the event that the "inventor" wanted to get fancy and/or wanted to eventually allow a skeptic to rip the thing apart on Youtube in order to "prove" they were really just electromagnets, then it presumably runs on the J.P. Morgan principle.


Your invention is brilliant, Mr. Tesla; but where do we put the meter?

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This is what I was thinking. The electromagnets are conveniently shaped like a C-cell battery. :consternation1:
 
Without the ability to objectively examine the device there is nothing to be said.

The question is, is it possible to hide some kind of battery within this device?
 
The point of Bomb#20's comment is that it would be relatively easy to hide batteries in the coils on either side of the device.

Not only that, even if there were not batteries in the coils, there could be some sort of induction device underneath the mat the thing is on (the mat is designed to look like tiles, yet moves during the video).

Telekinesis is also cheating. :cheeky:
 
Kharakov said:
The point of Bomb#20's comment is that it would be relatively easy to hide batteries in the coils on either side of the device.

Not only that, even if there were not batteries in the coils, there could be some sort of induction device underneath the mat the thing is on (the mat is designed to look like tiles, yet moves during the video).

Telekinesis is also cheating. :cheeky:
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Yes, obviously it is some trick.

But what kind of trick is impossible to say.
 
I can think of several ways to build this device. None of them involve breaking the laws of thermodynamics; most of them involve small batteries, but there are other options - it could be powered by induction; or it could be a wind turbine - powered by a jet of air blowing the rotor around.
 
Either the person who made the device will be a very rich man soon or the device is a fake. My money is on the later.
 
rjh01 said:
Either the person who made the device will be a very rich man soon or the device is a fake. My money is on the later.
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Or else the inventor will imminently disappear/be killed in a traffic accident/be confined to a mental institution/confess to a hoax and the device will shortly be swapped out to the same secret laboratory within Exxon Mobil where the identical-appearing device containing a battery is already under construction. :cheeky:
 
Bomb#20 has it right, I am sure.
Why bother with induction fields when AAA batteries are two for a buck?
 
Elixir said:
Bomb#20 has it right, I am sure.
Why bother with induction fields when AAA batteries are two for a buck?
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Someone interested in induction could have made that video, put it online, and then another person used it for their free lunch.
 
Bomb#20 said:
rjh01 said:
Either the person who made the device will be a very rich man soon or the device is a fake. My money is on the later.
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Or else the inventor will imminently disappear/be killed in a traffic accident/be confined to a mental institution/confess to a hoax and the device will shortly be swapped out to the same secret laboratory within Exxon Mobil where the identical-appearing device containing a battery is already under construction. :cheeky:
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Trouble is with that idea is that the idea is so simple it would have been invented many times over by so many people that it would have wiped out all the top researchers. Amazing that the idea is still around even as in this case a joke.
 
rjh01 said:
Bomb#20 said:
Or else the inventor will imminently disappear/be killed in a traffic accident/be confined to a mental institution/confess to a hoax and the device will shortly be swapped out to the same secret laboratory within Exxon Mobil where the identical-appearing device containing a battery is already under construction. :cheeky:
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Trouble is with that idea is that the idea is so simple it would have been invented many times over by so many people that it would have wiped out all the top researchers. Amazing that the idea is still around even as in this case a joke.
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So... what is it - hidden batteries, or under-the-table induction? Simplicity argues for the former, but the way the guy handles it argues for induction.
 
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