China Prepares for War - Our Response?

[barbos]

Kai-Shek was a fascist, but he was our anti communist fascist. The enemy of my enemy is my friend, a Cold War American theme.

Replace Kai-Shek with Zelensky. Whatever he is, he is your "whatever he is". He is really a puppet, US is really interested in puppets they can control, be it fascist or democrat, does not matter, even communist is fine as long as he is your puppet.

 

[barbos]

Unfortunately for Putin the former Soviet client states chose to go with the EU and NATO. Not just the fromer Warsaw Pact.

No, they did not, puppet regimes, US installed, did.
With maybe exception of Poland, people in these countries are way way less anti-russian than their "governments".
Even governments are really just playing their part in the game. They are more afraid of US than Russia.
However, Western Europe (according to anecdotes from russian expats) is more damaged by anti-russian hysteria.

Remember that bulgarian trucker versus ukrainian street debate in the early days of SMO? That's indicative of Eastern Europe population.

 

[steve_bank]

College and pro football is staring, the Word Series is comming, and basketball will be strting.

The economy has largely recovered. Tourism in Seattle is back to normal.

All in all, nobody gives a flying fuck about Putin and what Russians do in Russia or what China does , as long as it does not impact their lives.

Like the price of bread when Russia cuts off Ukrainian wheat supplies. A hrorible thing to have done affecting people who starve without it. Like when China threatens free navigation in the South China Sea.

You and your fellow Russians can kiss Putin's ass if that is what you wnat to do. Just leve the rest of world out of your misery.

 

[barbos]

College and pro football is staring,

Long time Chicago Bears fan here.
I heard you the first time.

All in all, nobody gives a flying fuck about Putin and what Russians do in Russia or what China does

That's how they (US neocons) wants you.

 

[barbos]

You and your fellow Russians can kiss Putin's ass if that is what you wnat to do. Just leve the rest of world out of your misery.

You first, get out of Ukraine.

 

[zorq]

You and your fellow Russians can kiss Putin's ass if that is what you wnat to do. Just leve the rest of world out of your misery.

You first, get out of Ukraine.

NATO isn't in Ukraine except in small advisosor and training roles, and that is only because they were invited to be there by Ukraine.

But if NATO were in Ukraine in the way that you (falsely) insist they are, then why should they leave? Because Ukraine belongs to the Ukranians? Or because Ukraine belongs to Russia?

 

[barbos]

NATO isn't in Ukraine

I did not say NATO, I said US.
And I have bridge to sell to you.

 

[barbos]

Ukraine belongs to Russia?

Yes, most of the territory called Ukraine should be part of Russia.

 

[barbos]

But if NATO were in Ukraine in the way that you (falsely) insist they are

It is you who falsely insist that the west has nothing to do with what's going on in Ukraine.
The west overthrew democratically elected president in Ukraine. Installed nazi regime which started terror campaign on russian population in historically russian parts on Ukraine which refused to accept the coup. The West armed and supported that regime with hundreds of billions of dollars in weapons, it provided intelligence, training, salaries to this terrorist regime in order to wage proxy war with Russia.
Say what you want, but Russia will not tolerate such "regime" on its border.

 

[steve_bank]

When a popular uprising by Ukrainians kicked out a Putin puppet they chose to estblish ties with the EU. There was no coercion or military pressure.

Putin responded by weaponize energy supplies to Ukraine.

By the way Barbos, the CIA has reported Putin likes to wear women's underwear. It has been corroborated by British and French intelligence services. Who would have thought the manly Russian Putin would be wearing a woman's brassiere under his suii.

Understand it really does not matter to me, but Putin wearing womens uderwear might not go well with Russians.

 

[steve_bank]

College and pro football is staring,

Long time Chicago Bears fan here.
I heard you the first time.

All in all, nobody gives a flying fuck about Putin and what Russians do in Russia or what China does

That's how they (US neocons) wants you.

Golly its really nice to be wanted, even if it is neocons.

 

[zorq]

Ukraine belongs to Russia?

Yes, most of the territory called Ukraine should be part of Russia.

So we all agree that Russia is trying to conquer Ukraine because Russia wants to steal Ukraine's land.

 

[barbos]

So we all agree that Russia is trying to conquer Ukraine because Russia wants to steal Ukraine's land.

No, I don't agree.

 

[barbos]

When a popular uprising by Ukrainians kicked out a Putin puppet they chose to estblish ties with the EU

It was not popular. In fact pretty much had ended when Nuland decided to employ nazis.
And why are you talking about ukraine in China thread, when NFL season has already started?

 

[barbos]

College and pro football is staring,

Long time Chicago Bears fan here.
I heard you the first time.

All in all, nobody gives a flying fuck about Putin and what Russians do in Russia or what China does

That's how they (US neocons) wants you.

Golly its really nice to be wanted, even if it is neocons.

Yes, that's how neocons want you - ignorant and distracted.

 

[Elixir]

Ukraine belongs to Russia?

Yes, most of the territory called Ukraine should be part of Russia.

So we all agree that Russia is trying to conquer Ukraine because Russia wants to steal Ukraine's land.

Nonononono, when Russian come live in your house, YOU invade Russia!

 

[ZiprHead]

Putin can trust China for support as far as Stalin Trusted Hitler.

Putin can trust west even less.
Having said that, China throughout its history have shown little interest in territorial conquests, In that sense it is very similar to Russia.

 

[steve_bank]

Barbos a Bears fan? I doubt that. You get the NFL on TV over there? HeeHee.

My point is again nobody over here cares about what Russians do in Russia. People are busy enjoying themselves. Putin maintains the Soviet isolationist anti west paradigm. That means we don't see what goes on in Russia, your media is controlled.

We see news from many viewpoints from Canada, Europe, South Korea, Japan, Australia. Nothing from Russia and little from China, free reporting by foreigners are not permitted. Same in China.

Do you get CNN in Russia? The BBC? Finland or Poland?

Western reporters have been jailed in Russia.

I watch news and world perspectives from the Brits, the French, and the Japanese. They are broadcast on local TV stations. There are no government restrictions. Foreign reporting can be critical of the USA.

 

[Elixir]

China throughout its history have shown little interest in territorial conquests, In that sense it is very similar to Russia.

“China throughout its history have HAD VARYING BORDERS DEPENDING IN EACH SUCCESSIVE RULER’S MAXIMUM CAPABILITY TO HOLD ON TO territorial conquests, In that sense it is very similar to Russia.”

There. Fixed it for you.

 

[barbos]

Do you get CNN in Russia? The BBC? Finland or Poland?

CNN is not news, it's neocon propaganda. They left Russia in 2022. BBC is the same thing, left in 2022.
There were real prospects of criminal charges against them so they left.