How should west respond to potential (likely) Russian invasion of Ukraine?

[Harry Bosch]

So Trump just blamed the war on Zelensky because he fought back.

Trump suggests Ukraine shouldn't have fought back against Russia

“Zelenskyy was fighting a much bigger entity, much bigger, much more powerful,” Trump said. “He shouldn’t have done that, because we could have made a deal.”

www.nbcnews.com

Zelensky should have just surrendered. Says he can’t beat Russia. WTF? Is he that fucking clueless and doesn’t understand what has happened in the last three years? He will abandon Ukraine and say it had to be that way. After all that’s what his handlers in the Kremlin have told him to do.

And people deny he’s a Russian agent. SMH

Yea, I was just starting to feel that maybe Trump won't wimper to Putler, then he made the above statements! Say what you want to about Biden, but he stood up to Putler. He stood up to the bully. Hence the hate that Barbos had for Biden!

 

[crazyfingers]

Well, Brisbane City Council have decided to "increase" their pay offer to 3.2% - up $2.70 per week from the original offer, and still markedly below the 4% that BCC management have awarded themselves, or the 6% that was our initial claim. This was, of course, rejected by the union, and The Industrial Relations Commission have given them until February 3rd to reconsider.

So, from next Friday, we are going to start our industrial action, with a symbolic gesture - We will refuse to wear our uniforms.

If the new offer on 3 Feb is still not acceptable, we will work to rule from Feb 4th.

And if there is no agreement by Feb 14th, we will start rolling stoppages - one hour mini-strike actions.

Interesting times.

So Trump just blamed the war on Zelensky because he fought back.

Trump suggests Ukraine shouldn't have fought back against Russia

“Zelenskyy was fighting a much bigger entity, much bigger, much more powerful,” Trump said. “He shouldn’t have done that, because we could have made a deal.”

www.nbcnews.com

Zelensky should have just surrendered. Says he can’t beat Russia. WTF? Is he that fucking clueless and doesn’t understand what has happened in the last three years? He will abandon Ukraine and say it had to be that way. After all that’s what his handlers in the Kremlin have told him to do.

And people deny he’s a Russian agent. SMH

Yea, I was just starting to feel that maybe Trump won't wimper to Putler, then he made the above statements! Say what you want to about Biden, but he stood up to Putler. He stood up to the bully. Hence the hate that Barbos had for Biden!

Clearly if the US was invaded by 20 million Chinese troops the US should just not fight back because 20 million is too big a number.

 

[barbos]

Zelensky should have just surrendered.

Yep. He should have gave what Russia wanted, which was:
1. No NATO
2. No ban on russian language
3. Autonomy for East Ukraine
4. No Nazi ideology

 

[barbos]

Says he can’t beat Russia. WTF?

Because .... WW3?
And do you know what your former dear Leader himself now (according MSM) says?
He says the same damn thing!

 

[laughing dog]

Zelensky should have just surrendered.

Yep. He should have gave what Russia wanted, which was:
1. No NATO
2. No ban on russian language
3. Autonomy for East Ukraine
4. No Nazi ideology

Perhaps the problem is that Zelensky needs a role model. Perhaps if Putin modelled demands 3-4, demands 1 and 2 would be superfluous.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Are you perhaps talking about a pipeline going through Ukraine? If so, it's your own fault for attacking a country where you have infrastructure.

Fucking hohols were stealing it in 2000s.
So it's your damn fault that we invaded,

Evidence?

 

[barbos]

Are you perhaps talking about a pipeline going through Ukraine? If so, it's your own fault for attacking a country where you have infrastructure.

Fucking hohols were stealing it in 2000s.
So it's your damn fault that we invaded,

Evidence?

LOL. Evidence is data from measuring equipment.

Russia–Ukraine gas disputes - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

BBC NEWS | Europe | Ukraine 'stealing Europe's gas'

 

[Loren Pechtel]

So Trump just blamed the war on Zelensky because he fought back.

Trump suggests Ukraine shouldn't have fought back against Russia

“Zelenskyy was fighting a much bigger entity, much bigger, much more powerful,” Trump said. “He shouldn’t have done that, because we could have made a deal.”

www.nbcnews.com

Zelensky should have just surrendered. Says he can’t beat Russia. WTF? Is he that fucking clueless and doesn’t understand what has happened in the last three years? He will abandon Ukraine and say it had to be that way. After all that’s what his handlers in the Kremlin have told him to do.

And people deny he’s a Russian agent. SMH

It's always the victim's fault for fighting back against the bully!

 

[barbos]

So Trump just blamed the war on Zelensky because he fought back.

Trump suggests Ukraine shouldn't have fought back against Russia

“Zelenskyy was fighting a much bigger entity, much bigger, much more powerful,” Trump said. “He shouldn’t have done that, because we could have made a deal.”

www.nbcnews.com

Zelensky should have just surrendered. Says he can’t beat Russia. WTF? Is he that fucking clueless and doesn’t understand what has happened in the last three years? He will abandon Ukraine and say it had to be that way. After all that’s what his handlers in the Kremlin have told him to do.

And people deny he’s a Russian agent. SMH

It's always the victim's fault for fighting back against the bully!

I agree, so stop blaming Russia and start blaming the bully - regime in USA.

 

[TV and credit cards]

So it's your damn fault that we invaded,

Japan had more justification for bombing Pearl Harbor.

Fucking Russia. I'll bet a woman can get jail time for making her husband beat the shit out of her.

 

[barbos]

So it's your damn fault that we invaded,

Japan had more justification for bombing Pearl Harbor.

Yes, they did have more justification for that than US starting their aggression against Russia.

 

[barbos]

Are you perhaps talking about a pipeline going through Ukraine? If so, it's your own fault for attacking a country where you have infrastructure.

Fucking hohols were stealing it in 2000s.
So it's your damn fault that we invaded,

Evidence?

That's it? no further blabbering?

 

[ZiprHead]

Donald J. Trump
@realDonald Trump
I'm not looking to hurt Russia. I love the Russian people, and always had a very good relationship with President Putin - and this despite the Radical Left's Russia, Russia, Russia HOAX.
We must never forget that Russia helped us win the Second World War, losing almost 60,000,000 lives in the process. All of that being said, I'm going to do Russia, whose Economy is failing, and President Putin, a very big FAVOR.
Settle now, and STOP this ridiculous War! IT'S ONLY GOING TO GET WORSE. If we don't make a "deal," and soon, I have no other choice but to put high levels of Taxes, Tariffs, and Sanctions on anything being sold by Russia to the United States, and various other participating countries.
Let's get this war, which never would have started if I were President, over with! We can do it the easy way, or the hard way - and the easy way is always better. It's time to "MAKE A DEAL. "NO MORE LIVES SHOULD BE LOST!!!

 

[barbos]

Trump is an asshole and a moron.

 

[Tigers!]

Trump is an asshole and a moron.

Those are the most true words you have ever uttered on these fora.

 

[Harry Bosch]

Trump is an asshole and a moron.

What part of Trump's statement above didn't you like?

 

[barbos]

Trump is an asshole and a moron.

What part of Trump's statement above didn't you like?

All of them?

 

[Harry Bosch]

Trump is an asshole and a moron.

What part of Trump's statement above didn't you like?

All of them?

I agree with Trump that we need to increase the tariffs on Russia. And anyone that trades with Russia. We have to figure out a way to bring Putler to the negotiating table.

 

[barbos]

Trump is an asshole and a moron.

What part of Trump's statement above didn't you like?

All of them?

I agree with Trump that we need to increase the tariffs on Russia.

LOL, you can't put tariffs anymore. there is noting left to put tariffs on

And anyone that trades with Russia.

Well, good luck with pissing off your "allies" even more.

We have to figure out a way to bring Putin to the negotiating table.

What table? Putin has already said he is at the table, waiting for Trump, Biden, Obama, Bush, whoever.
He has been waiting for 20 years.
Problem is, you thought you did not need negotiating.

 

[TV and credit cards]

I agree with Trump that we need to increase the tariffs on Russia.

LOL, you can't put tariffs anymore. there is noting left to put tariffs on

Unless it's EU companies still doing business with Russia. Those we could hit.

I think since we have an authoritarian president now, he ought to put his disregard for laws and norms to good use and start seizing Russia's shadow fleet on the high seas.