Why the Constitution is now null and void

[Shadowy Man]

I thought you had some compassion.

I'm not at all against Bill Gates continuing his pledges to the cause. Bill Gates can afford to do this and I think that would be wonderful.

Would you have been ok with Joe Biden letting Bill Gates have access to the Treasury department so he could decide which programs were compassionate enough for his causes and which weren't? Would that have been acceptable to you? Or would you have been screaming bloody murder that that is an inappropriate, probably illegal action for Biden to take?

I don't doubt that impeachment proceedings would have begun immediately, with many simply calling for Biden's hanging as a traitor.

 

[ZiprHead]

I know I did not want to live in a country that censored its then elected president and then attempted to take him off the ballot in several states. Even if he was corrupt. What the Democrats did felt more like a banana republic then the US.

Following the constitution makes us a banana republic???

I would say trying to steal the election from Biden and succeeding would make us a banana republic.

 

[robnisch]

You might think Musk is the bad person right now but he might well be the savior of our government not completely failing in the near future.

So, you are willing to do away with Democracy, because it apparently isn't working well enough for you, and go with autocracy because it "might well" produce the result you do like?

Living in a democracy is hard and most people won't like it. Compromising almost never makes anyone happy. However, isn't it still better than the alternative. Yes, it can become corrupted and we should fight against that corruption, but we don't solve the corruption by simply going full-on corrupted.

Are you hoping that Elon will simply destroy our current democracy and then somehow lead the charge in developing a new, better democracy from its ashes? What are the chances that that is his current motivation? This just makes no sense to me.

Yes! Burn down the house 'cause there are mice!

 

[robnisch]

I know I did not want to live in a country that censored its then elected president and then attempted to take him off the ballot in several states. Even if he was corrupt. What the Democrats did felt more like a banana republic then the US.

Following the constitution makes us a banana republic???

I would say trying to steal the election from Biden and succeeding would make us a banana republic.

I cringe every time someone uses the term "banana republic". It's like they don't know the history.
but, maybe I'm too "woke".

 

[crazyfingers]

I know I did not want to live in a country that censored its then elected president and then attempted to take him off the ballot in several states. Even if he was corrupt. What the Democrats did felt more like a banana republic then the US.

Following the constitution makes us a banana republic???

I would say trying to steal the election from Biden and succeeding would make us a banana republic.

What's more, Trump tried to overthrow the election and participated in a insurrection. He should have been disqualified to run again under the 14th Amendment.

 

[ideologyhunter]

We have a criminal in charge of law enforcement, a Fox pundit running national defense, an unelected billionaire with govt. contracts making budget decisions, a blog troll with an enemies list most probably in line to head FBI, a vaccine conspiracist most likely to direct the nation's health. I can't look, tell me when we're great again.
But at least we don't have a traitorous insurrectionist as head of state.
Wait.
Fuck.

 

[ZiprHead]

I know I did not want to live in a country that censored its then elected president and then attempted to take him off the ballot in several states. Even if he was corrupt. What the Democrats did felt more like a banana republic then the US.

Following the constitution makes us a banana republic???

I would say trying to steal the election from Biden and succeeding would make us a banana republic.

What's more, Trump tried to overthrow the election and participated in a insurrection. He should have been disqualified to run again under the 14th Amendment.

That is what I was referencing when I said "following the constitution".

 

[barbos]

I agree. Russia does it too. China does it. All major countries try to expand their influence. So... ?

First, Russia does not do that to any comparable degree. Second. Russia started doing it very recently looking at what you were doing.

 

[barbos]

I guess Barbos doesn't like the fact that JFK started USAID during the Cold War with the Soviet Union. He is either making up shit or has been a victim of the massive disinformation that he likely hears from his own dictator. Of course, he never provides any evidence of his stupid claims.

Or maybe USAID has become corrupt over the years and Barbos can actually see what you can't since he is less tone deaf about Ukraine events.

if USAID has become corrupt then it’s the duty of Congress to call hearings and investigate.

In theory yes. In practice Congress knew about that from the get go and did nothing.

Instead they acquiesce to an unelected, non-governmental civilian with massive economic and legal conflicts to simply storm the headquarters and kick out all the employees.

It is clumsy, yes. But is it fundamentally wrong?

Is that the kind of country you want to live in? Regardless of how corrupt USAID is?

Regardless? These motherfuckers are responsible for millions (I count) of deaths.

 

[ZiprHead]

I agree. Russia does it too. China does it. All major countries try to expand their influence. So... ?

First, Russia does not do that to any comparable degree.

I agree. They do it far more and more clandestinely. Russian troll farms are quite active in the US social media.

Second. Russia started doing it very recently looking at what you were doing.

You've been inserting yourselves in our elections through social media for many years.

 

[barbos]

USAid did provide some funding to independent media in Ukraine. There is also a charity fund based in Europe that provides funds for media in Ukraine.

90% is not "some" it is pretty much 100%, considering that remaining 10% are probably indirect funding from the same source.

 

[Elixir]

Russian troll farms are quite active in the US social media.

If by "are quite active in" you mean "utterly predominate".
There are literally hundreds of "local News" sites and lots of fake user-fans, created in Russian and Russia-sponsored countries and inserted organically and by promoted both organically, and with fake robo-profiles and/or by purchase into all the major face ticks , whatsapx etc.
THESE ARE SOCIAL MEDIA'S BIGGEST PAYING CUSTOMERS
Good luck getting them to turn down a well laundered dollar.
It's a cash cow for the media and the buy of all time for Putin, to be able to overthrow the government of the world's largest economy and largest democracy for a few paltry billions.

 

[Axulus]

I know I did not want to live in a country that censored its then elected president and then attempted to take him off the ballot in several states. Even if he was corrupt. What the Democrats did felt more like a banana republic then the US.

Following the constitution makes us a banana republic???

I would say trying to steal the election from Biden and succeeding would make us a banana republic.

What's more, Trump tried to overthrow the election and participated in a insurrection. He should have been disqualified to run again under the 14th Amendment.

That is what I was referencing when I said "following the constitution".

The constitution is the banana republic he was referring to, which is why it must be destroyed.

 

[barbos]

You've been inserting yourselves in our elections through social media for many years.

No, no weren't. After learning what happened in Romania it is pretty clear that it was you doing it and blaming Russia for doing it.

 

[Swammerdami]

In barely two weeks Trump-47 and his criminal accomplices have committed more crimes and stupidities than the previous 2½ centuries of American governance added together. Some of the stupidities are so blatant and do stupid that one has to wonder if Vladimir Vladimirovitch is still the puppet-master. And 50 out of 53 U.S. Senators from the QOPAnon Party are happy to forfeit all self-respect and the lives of their grandchildren for the pieces of silver that corrupt billionaires will trickle their way.

Most MAGA voters seem to be imbeciles who get their info from a Facebook bubble. They voted for Trump because of the price of eggs and will think eggs are now cheaper if Trump tells them so. But we have a few MAGA folk here with 90+ IQs and access to Reuters and the AP. What do they think of Trump-47 so far? Has any of them complained? Even in the slightest?

You might think Musk is the bad person right now but he might well be the savior of our government not completely failing in the near future.

At least Mr. Vonse is consistent. Once an ignorant Fascism sympathizer, always an ignorant Fascism sympathizer. What about our other MAGA fellow travelers?

So, you are willing to do away with Democracy, because it apparently isn't working well enough for you, and go with autocracy because it "might well" produce the result you do like?

Living in a democracy is hard and most people won't like it. Compromising almost never makes anyone happy. However, isn't it still better than the alternative. Yes, it can become corrupted and we should fight against that corruption, but we don't solve the corruption by simply going full-on corrupted.

Are you hoping that Elon will simply destroy our current democracy and then somehow lead the charge in developing a new, better democracy from its ashes? What are the chances that that is his current motivation? This just makes no sense to me.

Yes! Burn down the house 'cause there are mice!

Derec is the one Infidel with a 100+ IQ who consistently allies himself with MAGA, misogyny, xenophobia, etc. But he's lost the privilege of my even seeing his posts. Has he expressed any misgivings about the way Trump and Musk are running the country?

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

I know I did not want to live in a country that censored its then elected president and then attempted to take him off the ballot in several states. Even if he was corrupt. What the Democrats did felt more like a banana republic then the US.

Following the constitution makes us a banana republic???

I would say trying to steal the election from Biden and succeeding would make us a banana republic.

What's more, Trump tried to overthrow the election and participated in a insurrection. He should have been disqualified to run again under the 14th Amendment.

He should have been impeached properly and disqualified by a unanimous Congress.

 

[jonatha]

It's like they don't know the history.

Well, consider the poster...

 

[Elixir]

Derec is the one Infidel with a 100+ IQ who consistently allies himself with MAGA, misogyny, xenophobia, etc.

Many MAGAts have the same curious quality of harboring an IQ that looks above average verbally, but are unable to grasp spatial relationships and factorial interplay.

But he's lost the privilege of my even seeing his posts. Has he expressed any misgivings about the way Trump and Musk are running the country?

I only see a few choice pieces when someone responding to him says something interesting. So he may have expressed utter dismay at the disregard for the Constitution that Cheato has demonstrated, but I doubt it. It never seemed to bother him before.

 

[RVonse]

You might think Musk is the bad person right now but he might well be the savior of our government not completely failing in the near future.

So, you are willing to do away with Democracy, because it apparently isn't working well enough for you, and go with autocracy because it "might well" produce the result you do like?

Living in a democracy is hard and most people won't like it. Compromising almost never makes anyone happy. However, isn't it still better than the alternative. Yes, it can become corrupted and we should fight against that corruption, but we don't solve the corruption by simply going full-on corrupted.

Are you hoping that Elon will simply destroy our current democracy and then somehow lead the charge in developing a new, better democracy from its ashes? What are the chances that that is his current motivation? This just makes no sense to me.

Yes! Burn down the house 'cause there are mice!

Or apply some radiation to remove what would be terminal cancer.

Whether you like Musk or not, you have to at least admit Musk is right about the size of our over grown federal government. Government never gets smaller. When in your lifetime (other than right now) has the federal government ever gotten smaller? When have any departments ever gotten smaller? When have you ever received any more freedom from the federal government? Over time all we get is more and more government, more federal people and programs to take away our freedom. Everyone is so paranoid about the civil war slavery but have you ever considered that you now are a total and complete slave of federal taxes and property taxes. Try not paying your federal or property taxes and see what happens. And unlike the slave of the old south you can not just run away to the north from today's slavery or from our federal government. According to Musk, government never ever gets smaller unless its entire frame changes after a huge war. I agree with that. But does anyone really want a war with high tech nuclear and bio devices just so the government can reduce to a normal size again?

Did Musk cause our government to get too big in the first place? Did Musk cause spending and taxation to get out of control? No. It was the 500+ representatives (all 3 branches) we have in Washington that have complete control over our government who have caused this and are not fixing this....and will not fix this without someone like Musk.

Our government is far too big and Musk is fixing it. This is just common sense that the Democrats (and some Rino's) do not currently have. Everything he is doing is advisory and legal.

 

[RVonse]

At least Mr. Vonse is consistent. Once an ignorant Fascism sympathizer, always an ignorant Fascism sympathizer. What about our other MAGA fellow travelers?

I'm not necessarily 100% in the MAGA camp but I can at least see some benefit to the reduction of the federal government. It is painful today but may give this country life tomorrow so that we can compete with China again.

And it is far far too early for a MAGA traveler to admit any of this is wrong doing since non of us can know the degree of success or failure yet. Sometimes the radiation saves the cancer patients life.