Well... it's Trump... again. #47, here we go.

[Shadowy Man]

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It’s official!!

Renaming things could be fun.

How about the first hurricane to hit the Gulf Coast of America gets named Hurricane Donald J?
Or maybe save that name for the first one that hits southern Florida. Call the first to hit Texas "Hurricane Abbott".
Tom

Well, after they disband NOAA and privatize the National weather service, perhaps the naming of hurricanes will be up for bid.

Ya I read that the Associated Press still referred to the Gulf of Mexico ad the Gulf of Mexico and as punishment were barred from the White House press core. That 3 year olds Trump and his gang are.

Well, clearly if they Are willing to lie about even basic geographic facts, just imagine how they will twist Trump’s words.

 

[Derec]

Shift the goal posts much? It is not a fact that only white farmers are having their farmland appropriated. At this point, there is no reports that I have seen of any land having been redistributed.

Not shifting anything. Even Beebs is admitting that this is the goal of the new land theft law.

And, of course, the issue that Trump's executive order is for white farmers just files by your "race blind" radar.

If white South Africans are being persecuted by their government, should they not have the right to asylum? Or is asylum only something for non-whites and Muslims in your book?

For someone who allegedly despises Trump, you're doing a like of whiteknighting here for him.

I despise him for the bad things he does or is trying to do. Like idiotic tariff policies or dismantling federal spending.

But he is often attacked no matter what he does. Like the claim that his paper straw EO went against the "free market" when it merely undid Biden's EO about use of things like plastic straws by the federal government.

 

[Derec]

Your only grounds for complaint here seems to be that you thought that the game was over, but it turns out it was just the half-time break, and your team (who dominated the first half) are now getting thrashed in the second.

So you are saying you are fine with government arbitrarily stealing land from some people?
Or just when you don't like the victims of that theft?

 

[laughing dog]

Shift the goal posts much? It is not a fact that only white farmers are having their farmland appropriated. At this point, there is no reports that I have seen of any land having been redistributed.

Not shifting anything. Even Beebs is admitting that this is the goal of the new land theft law.

Of course you are shifting the goalposts (see the bold-faced potion that you seem to be unable to parse).

And, of course, the issue that Trump's executive order is for white farmers just files by your "race blind" radar.

If white South Africans are being persecuted by their government, should they not have the right to asylum? Or is asylum only something for non-whites and Muslims in your book?

Stop blowing smoke. This is a race-based policy - something you claim to abhor. This is refugee status for land-owning Afrikaaners (who, by the way, have publicly refused the offer), not any South African who is persecuted. Or are you saying that only land-owning white South Africans should have the right of asylum?

For someone who allegedly despises Trump, you're doing a like of whiteknighting here for him.

I despise him for the bad things he does or is trying to do. Like idiotic tariff policies or dismantling federal spending.

But he is often attacked no matter what he does. Like the claim that his paper straw EO went against the "free market" when it merely undid Biden's EO about use of things like plastic straws by the federal government.

Nice try, but you are not fooling anyone.

 

[Derec]

I almost never use straws. I just drink from the glass like a normal person. And the ice is at the top so the drink is colder.

As I said before, they are needed for to-go cups and frozen drinks like Frappuccinos.

The soda fountains in the forties and fifties used paper straws. There were no plastic straws.

Do we really want to go back to the 40s and 50s?

Too many fauxgressives' idea of "progress" (or should that be "fauxgress"?) is to go backwards.

The paper straws do not need to be made using PFAS.

But why try to remove PFAS from paper straws when they are so crappy in every regard?
Better to develop more sustainable and PFAS-free polymers for one-way use. Actual progress, not fauxgress which is really regress to 40s and 50s.

 

[Derec]

Try to focus. This is refugee status for land-owning Afrikaaners (who, by the way, have publicly refused the offer), not any White South African. Or are you saying that only land-owning white South Africans should have the right of asylum?

Everybody persecuted by their government.

I.e. not economic migrants from Nicaragua or El Salvador. Even though they have a more politically correct skin color.

 

[laughing dog]

Try to focus. This is refugee status for land-owning Afrikaaners (who, by the way, have publicly refused the offer), not any White South African. Or are you saying that only land-owning white South Africans should have the right of asylum?

Everybody persecuted by their government.

I.e. not economic migrants from Nicaragua or El Salvador. Even though they have a more politically correct skin color.

Trump couldn’t have said it better.

 

[Derec]

‘I Didn’t Want Them to Go’: Salvadoran Family Grieves for Father and Daughter Who Drowned

The death of Mr. Martínez and his daughter has given an urgent and poignant face to a major driver of migration from Central America and elsewhere: economic duress.
Much attention in recent years has been given to the rampant violence that has compelled so many Salvadorans and residents of neighboring Guatemala and Honduras to head north.
But perhaps a bigger impetus, officials and residents here say, has been economics, especially poverty and the lack of good jobs.
The Martínez family made it as far as the northern Mexican border city of Matamoros last weekend, where, according to relatives, they hoped to cross into the United States and apply for asylum.
[...]
Mr. Martínez and Ms. Ávalos, however, worked relatively close to their home, family members said — she in a Chinese fast-food restaurant at a middle-class mall, and he at various branches of the pizza chain Papa John’s.
But the couple, even though they were sharing household expenses with Ms. Ramírez and her partner, were having a hard time on their salaries of about $300 a month. Last fall, they started talking about migrating to the United States.

The asylum system has been abused by all these economic migrants who gum up the works and have caused this border mess that was a big reason why Trump got reelected.

Trump was a bad choice, but the problems that led to his reelection, as well as to his initial victory, are very real. And Democrats need to be honest for their part in perpetuating these problems. For example, thinking that everybody has a right to come to the United States if they show up at the border, or that illegals should be protected from deportation by state and local governments.

By the way, same thing is happening in Europe, increasing popularity of the right wing parties. You have all these economic migrants claiming "asylum" and because EU has antiquated asylum laws that do not take modern asylum abuse into account, they are nearly impossible to deport once they reach Europe.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

I almost never use straws. I just drink from the glass like a normal person. And the ice is at the top so the drink is colder.

As I said before, they are needed for to-go cups and frozen drinks like Frappuccinos.

The soda fountains in the forties and fifties used paper straws. There were no plastic straws.

Do we really want to go back to the 40s and 50s?

Too many fauxgressives' idea of "progress" (or should that be "fauxgress"?) is to go backwards.

The paper straws do not need to be made using PFAS.

But why try to remove PFAS from paper straws when they are so crappy in every regard?
Better to develop more sustainable and PFAS-free polymers for one-way use. Actual progress, not fauxgress which is really regress to 40s and 50s.

Elon Musk's acolyte has led to a forensics investigation into the Treasury Computer system... and we are talking about fucking straws?!

 

[Shadowy Man]

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/28/world/americas/rio-grande-drowning-father-daughter.html

Trump was a bad choice, but the problems that led to his reelection, as well as to his initial victory, are very real. And Democrats need to be honest for their part in perpetuating these problems. For example, thinking that everybody has a right to come to the United States if they show up at the border, or that illegals should be protected from deportation by state and local governments.

Yeah! It’s really messed up that Biden didn’t deport anybody during his term!!!

 

[Shadowy Man]

I almost never use straws. I just drink from the glass like a normal person. And the ice is at the top so the drink is colder.

As I said before, they are needed for to-go cups and frozen drinks like Frappuccinos.

The soda fountains in the forties and fifties used paper straws. There were no plastic straws.

Do we really want to go back to the 40s and 50s?

Too many fauxgressives' idea of "progress" (or should that be "fauxgress"?) is to go backwards.

The paper straws do not need to be made using PFAS.

But why try to remove PFAS from paper straws when they are so crappy in every regard?
Better to develop more sustainable and PFAS-free polymers for one-way use. Actual progress, not fauxgress which is really regress to 40s and 50s.

Elon Musk's acolyte has led to a forensics investigation into the Treasury Computer system... and we are talking about fucking straws?!

A sleight of hand magician will tell you that what he does with one hand is distract you from what the other hand is doing.

A pick pocket, too.

 

[ZiprHead]

Trump cancelled grants to low income Alabamans for utility support. Not only do they no longer get the money, they must pay the past money back.

 

[Shadowy Man]

Trump cancelled grants to low income Alabamans for utility support. Not only do they no longer get the money, they must pay the past money back.

Citation?

Not because I don’t believe it but would like to read more about it.

 

[Elixir]

Trump cancelled grants to low income Alabamans for utility support. Not only do they no longer get the money, they must pay the past money back.

Link?

 

[bilby]

Your only grounds for complaint here seems to be that you thought that the game was over, but it turns out it was just the half-time break, and your team (who dominated the first half) are now getting thrashed in the second.

So you are saying you are fine with government arbitrarily stealing land from some people?

No, I am saying that you are, but only when it happened a little while ago, and to victims you don't like.

 

[bilby]

Everybody persecuted by their government.

Sure. I pay taxes, therefore I am in exactly the same situation as a person in a police cell, being beaten by the state security police on suspicion of disloyalty to the Great Leader.

 

[crazyfingers]

Trump cancelled grants to low income Alabamans for utility support. Not only do they no longer get the money, they must pay the past money back.

Url?

 

[Derec]

Yeah! It’s really messed up that Biden didn’t deport anybody during his term!!!

Did I say he didn't deport anybody? That's a straw man.

What is true that Dems have instituted "sanctuary cities", expanded benefits for illegals, expanded asylum beyond people being persecuted in their countries, etc.

 

[Derec]

Elon Musk's acolyte has led to a forensics investigation into the Treasury Computer system... and we are talking about fucking straws?!

Usually we end up talking about things where there is disagreement.
I don't think many people here like the fact that Broccoli Top and other of Musk's Minions have access to Treasury data.

 

[Shadowy Man]

Yeah! It’s really messed up that Biden didn’t deport anybody during his term!!!

Did I say he didn't deport anybody? That's a straw man.

Yes it is. And so is “thinking that everybody has a right to come to the United States if they show up at the border”. Except mine was meant to be facetious.