barbos
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But they ARE Nazis. So no, you are wrong again.
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How should west respond to potential (likely) Russian invasion of Ukraine?
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steve_bank
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AS I said before I do not watch the videos you post. You can find any number of views from the USA and Europe on the net, a consequence of a free press and free speech. Unlike Russia where the only voices we hear are controlled by the state.
Do you even know what hegemony means? The Soviet Union was held together by force. When it collapsed states that had been under Soviet control opted for the EU and NATO. That is strictly voluntary.
Note that the war caused formerly neutral Norway and Sweden to join NATO. When they announced application for NATO Putin told them they can not and threatened then with consequences and said troops would be moved to the border.
The collapse of the Soviet Union was the end of the Russian communist hegemony.
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barbos
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I agree that woman is a nazi idiot.
And between us two there is only one idiot and it's not me.
And you not listening what ukrainian nazi are saying is the reason why you mistakenly think they don't exist.
barbos
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You forgot Germany, we invaded them in 1941.
And Chechnya/Dagestan are not countries, and it's actually other way around, it was Chechnya who invaded Russia, literally.
And we did no invade China. And your whole list is utter garbage, every single line in it.
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Upon Ukraine agreeing to a ceasefire, the US resumed feeding Ukraine arms and intel and is waiting to see if Russia will agree to the same. If Russia gives a hard no with no wiggle room, it will be interesting to see what the US does. I expect the Kremlin to give some conciliatory response so Putin can maintain a close relationship with his butt buddy, Trump then Trump won't have to play hardball with Russia as he does with Ukraine. Let's see how one-sided this goes.
barbos
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Well, Putin and others had stated what we want and this 30 days nonsense is not it.
steve_bank
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Barbos appears to be running low on ammunition, maybe North Korea or Iran will keep him supplied.
Harry Bosch
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Not many people are surprised here! This is more about educating MAGA that Russia does not want peace. They want war and destruction. We need to wake the fuck up, come together, and send more arms into Ukraine. Russia isn't going to agree to any reasonable peace plan. The only way to stop imperialism is with bullets.
Harry Bosch
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I think that my young friend Barbos would be far less pro-war if he or family members were actually fighting in Ukraine right now!
barbos
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I know.
This is you:
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barbos
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I want resolution. We have had a number of ceasefires with Kiev regime, only to have war resumed when they get enough rest. I want Nazi Regime in Kiev dead. I want nazi regimes of EU dead as well.
barbos
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There would not have been many dead people if Putin had crashed Maidan motherfuckers in 2014.
in fact, there would not have been any Maidan if Russia had had zero tolerance policy toward ukro-nazi movements of the 90s and 2000s.
Harry Bosch
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Again, very easy to be macho and pro war when you and/or your children aren’t in danger of fighting.
barbos
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We did not start it, you did.
zorq
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Don't be so dense. Of course you (Russia) did.
It is vile and barbaric to murder innocent people because someone you wanted to do business with preferred a competitor. Why did you bring up Euro trade deals? Because that't the only gripe you had with Ukraine. If you (Russia) actually cared about Nazis, Wagner wouldn't have been led by a Nazi and given so much power. Putin doesn't actually care about Nazis. Ukrainian Nazis (the small minority of people in Ukraine (and , BTW, likely much smaller than the number of Nazis flourishing in Russia)) have never done anything to agitate Russia. The only thing that actually agitated Russia was the trade deals it was going to miss out on when Ukraine started dealing more closely with Europe. (again, BTW, not something the US or (gasp) Nuland actually had any real influence over)
SO YES, it is fucking blatantly obvious to anyone who doesn't have their head firmly ensconced in a sick and violent land of delusions resembling their own rectum that blame for starting violence in Ukraine belongs entirely to Russia. Russia and the people who support her violent abuses against innocent and peaceful neighbors are disgusting swine who deserve IMO to swim in a pool of burning human excrement until they can understand how reprehensible it is to choose barbarity and murder over the civilized option of ... just offering a better deal when pursuing a business contract.
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You don't remember 1999? When Russia agreed to give up its nukes in exchange for Ukraine agreeing not to invade its territory?
And then after Ukraine invaded Crimea in 2014, and again after the 2020 training excercise went awry?
All those treaties that Ukraine broke? And then they invaded Russia AGAIN!
steve_bank
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A Russian 'chicken hawk'.
I wonder there is a Russian equivalent to our 'jive turkey'.