How should west respond to potential (likely) Russian invasion of Ukraine?

[barbos]

Going forward, if Ukraine cannot defend its civilian population from drone attacks, Zelensky will have to throw in the towel.

First of all, Russia does not attack civilian population. Second of all, you don't get the "economics" of this war.
Elensky and his goons on all levels are profiting from stealing money you send to them. And even if Elensky suddenly gets some kind of conscience , he would not be able to stop it, he would be terminated by the people who are making money.
These people know that they are getting out of Ukraine to Western Europe with tons of euros/dollars.

You oughta be ashamed of yourself.

No, you should be. Russian army unlike terrorist nazi regime you installed does not attack civilians. That's just a fact.

Tell that to the victim's relatives of the Bucha massacre,

Ukro-nazi scam is responsible for Bucha.

 

[DrZoidberg]

Trump calls Zelenskyy 'dictator' as Ukraine leader slams him for 'disinformation'

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy hit back at President Donald Trump's call for the country to hold fresh presidential elections after historic Russia-U.S. talks.

abcnews.go.com

This is not good.

Trump is such a lying asshole claiming that Ukraine started the war. Putin will control Trump.

What do you want Trump to say? That US started the war? Well, Rubio kinda said that.
And yes, Ukrainian regime (installed by US) started civil war in 2014.

The Russians started the war in 2014. Deal with it.

Nope, US started it.

US did not cross the Ukraine border. Russia did. You started the war. Stop bullshitting.

Barbos hasn't invaded anything. Russia did that. Tribal language is unhelpful on discussion forums imho

 

[barbos]

Trump calls Zelenskyy 'dictator' as Ukraine leader slams him for 'disinformation'

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy hit back at President Donald Trump's call for the country to hold fresh presidential elections after historic Russia-U.S. talks.

abcnews.go.com

This is not good.

Trump is such a lying asshole claiming that Ukraine started the war. Putin will control Trump.

What do you want Trump to say? That US started the war? Well, Rubio kinda said that.
And yes, Ukrainian regime (installed by US) started civil war in 2014.

The Russians started the war in 2014. Deal with it.

Nope, US started it.

US did not cross the Ukraine border. Russia did. You started the war. Stop bullshitting.

You crossed russian border and you did start that war, Your own administrations admitted that, both british and american and NATO chief.

 

[barbos]

Trump calls Zelenskyy 'dictator' as Ukraine leader slams him for 'disinformation'

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy hit back at President Donald Trump's call for the country to hold fresh presidential elections after historic Russia-U.S. talks.

abcnews.go.com

This is not good.

Trump is such a lying asshole claiming that Ukraine started the war. Putin will control Trump.

What do you want Trump to say? That US started the war? Well, Rubio kinda said that.
And yes, Ukrainian regime (installed by US) started civil war in 2014.

The Russians started the war in 2014. Deal with it.

Nope, US started it.

US did not cross the Ukraine border. Russia did. You started the war. Stop bullshitting.

Barbos hasn't invaded anything. Russia did that. Tribal language is unhelpful on discussion forums imho

US organized violent nazi coup and then terror campaign on russian population in order to start a war with Russia which they were sure they were going to win.

 

[barbos]

BoJo the Murderous motherfucker is trying to walk it back

 

[bilby]

"Bucha was regrettable, but blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah blah" (etc)

I think it goes:

"Bucha was regrettable, but it was the Nazis who did it, and it never happened, and we were forced to do it because the EU was mean to us, and you just made it up, and we did it because of NATO expansionism. The Americans did it, and they admitted it. Also, it never happened. The BBC made it up and lied about it, and we had no choice but to do it because people were disrespecting Russia".

Something like that. Totally convincing and believable. As long as doublethink is your key skill.

 

[Axulus]

Trump calls Zelenskyy 'dictator' as Ukraine leader slams him for 'disinformation'

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy hit back at President Donald Trump's call for the country to hold fresh presidential elections after historic Russia-U.S. talks.

abcnews.go.com

This is not good.

Trump is such a lying asshole claiming that Ukraine started the war. Putin will control Trump.

What do you want Trump to say? That US started the war? Well, Rubio kinda said that.
And yes, Ukrainian regime (installed by US) started civil war in 2014.

The Russians started the war in 2014. Deal with it.

Nope, US started it.

US did not cross the Ukraine border. Russia did. You started the war. Stop bullshitting.

You crossed russian border and you did start that war, Your own administrations admitted that, both british and american and NATO chief.

You really took to heart the idea that "a lie told often enough becomes the truth", because I see you repeat the same lies non-stop.

 

[barbos]

Trump calls Zelenskyy 'dictator' as Ukraine leader slams him for 'disinformation'

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy hit back at President Donald Trump's call for the country to hold fresh presidential elections after historic Russia-U.S. talks.

abcnews.go.com

This is not good.

Trump is such a lying asshole claiming that Ukraine started the war. Putin will control Trump.

What do you want Trump to say? That US started the war? Well, Rubio kinda said that.
And yes, Ukrainian regime (installed by US) started civil war in 2014.

The Russians started the war in 2014. Deal with it.

Nope, US started it.

US did not cross the Ukraine border. Russia did. You started the war. Stop bullshitting.

You crossed russian border and you did start that war, Your own administrations admitted that, both british and american and NATO chief.

You really took to heart the idea that "a lie told often enough becomes the truth", because I see you repeat the same lies non-stop.

No. it's you. It's really you.

 

[Axulus]

Trump calls Zelenskyy 'dictator' as Ukraine leader slams him for 'disinformation'

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy hit back at President Donald Trump's call for the country to hold fresh presidential elections after historic Russia-U.S. talks.

abcnews.go.com

This is not good.

Trump is such a lying asshole claiming that Ukraine started the war. Putin will control Trump.

What do you want Trump to say? That US started the war? Well, Rubio kinda said that.
And yes, Ukrainian regime (installed by US) started civil war in 2014.

The Russians started the war in 2014. Deal with it.

Nope, US started it.

US did not cross the Ukraine border. Russia did. You started the war. Stop bullshitting.

You crossed russian border and you did start that war, Your own administrations admitted that, both british and american and NATO chief.

You really took to heart the idea that "a lie told often enough becomes the truth", because I see you repeat the same lies non-stop.

No. it's you. It's really you.

Every single one of your posts is a gish gallop of half-truths, lies and conspiracies. It is impossible to have a discussion.

 

[TV and credit cards]

Barbos, your lies would be comical (and I mean that in a most disrespectful way) were they not rooted in the atrocities your people commit. I'd like to blame Putin. I'd like to blame your government. Understanding the access you have to the truth, the blame lies with you.

 

[ZiprHead]

Another commentary on recent events:

Neither of those people are historians. My wife has a BA in History and I still would not call her a historian. Neither of those two have anywhere close to the educational background my wife has.

 

[barbos]

Barbos, your lies would be comical (and I mean that in a most disrespectful way) were they not rooted in the atrocities your people commit. I'd like to blame Putin. I'd like to blame your government. Understanding the access you have to the truth, the blame lies with you.

Lies are all yours.

 

[barbos]

Another commentary on recent events:

Neither of those people are historians. My wife has a BA in History and I still would not call her a historian. Neither of those two have anywhere close to the educational background my wife has.

I see no comments on substance, instead personal attack on the messenger.
What does your wife has to do with anything?

 

[ZiprHead]

Another commentary on recent events:

Neither of those people are historians. My wife has a BA in History and I still would not call her a historian. Neither of those two have anywhere close to the educational background my wife has.

I see no comments on substance, instead personal attack on the messenger.
What does your wife has to do with anything?

The video calls them histo... Ah, fuck it. Not worth the electrons.

 

[Elixir]

Stop bullshitting.

It’s his job.

 

[barbos]

The video calls them histo... Ah, fuck it. Not worth the electrons.

She is not "them", she is "she".
And you literally failed to refute her and resorted to name calling.
In fact you are even worse than that. You refused to acknowledge her or her opinion.
Which is exactly the point this video is trying to make. Western Media carefully ignores anything which deviates from official narrative. And this official narrative which you all are peddling here is absolute 100% lie!

 

[ZiprHead]

The video calls them histo... Ah, fuck it. Not worth the electrons.

She is not "them", she is "she".

Did YOU watch the video? She and her male partner on the program Aaron Mate makes them. "Them".

And you literally failed to refute her and resorted to name calling.

What name did I call her, Mr. Everyone against me is a Nazi?

In fact you are even worse than that. You refused to acknowledge her or her opinion.
Which is exactly the point this video is trying to make. Western Media carefully ignores anything which deviates from official narrative. And this official narrative which you all are peddling here is absolute 100% lie!

Nothing anyone has ever said or done concerning Ukraine justifies Russian infiltration in 2014 and invasion and war 3 years ago.

 

[Elixir]

infiltration

??? That was a straight up criminal land grab in violation of a signed treaty.

 

[bilby]

Every single one of your posts is a gish gallop of half-truths, lies and conspiracies. It is impossible to have a discussion.

Now that's not entirely true. Some of his posts are brief, blunt, denials of reality, with no attempt at justification, explanation or citation whatsoever.

It's still impossible to have a discussion, though. Obviously.

 

[bilby]

Barbos, your lies would be comical (and I mean that in a most disrespectful way) were they not rooted in the atrocities your people commit. I'd like to blame Putin. I'd like to blame your government. Understanding the access you have to the truth, the blame lies with you.

Lies are all yours.