If I used elastic bands I could have done it myself without talking to any expert. I have never talked to an expert about that kind of thing. (it was buried down pretty deep)
This is literally self-abuse at that point. Doing things without oversight is the last resort of the desperate.
This is why proper channels exist in the first place.
I have spent 3 years trying to get this done through proper channels specifically so I wouldn't be seen the way you would if you had done that and I fully agree with the existence of the gate there.
The whole point of blockers (the thing this thread is arguing against) is that you can feel the effects of taking some move like that
with minimal long term side effects in case it doesn't have the effects you were expecting.
It's abuse specifically to deprive you of those facts and channels. Consider that this ignorance and inability to access proper channels for that decision is specifically what led you to almost do it improperly.
Actually pay attention to the one person you will probably EVER meet who would tell someone that it's absolutely OK to get castrated when they tell you "but only if you go through the proper channels" when they say that you almost going through with that was a product of people like CHRIS who would have you kept ignorant and even delete the existence of the channels.
Seriously, what are we even debating here? Pretty much anyone who accuses adults of grooming children when it is children making decisions for themselves hopefully with MINIMAL adult control, and us trying to make sure they have the best information to make the best decisions.
Calling something like letting a child research something for themselves, and come to their own conclusions using true and unbiased information "abuse" is "bombastic".
More and more it's obvious that Chris's schtick is that he says the most hateful bullshit juxtaposed with the use of calm tone so that when someone reacts, people pay attention to the tone rather than content.
The entire trans care infrastructure is specifically set up to discourage casual interest, prevent long term decisions until deliberation has been done, and to filter dangerous and inaccurate information that rushes people towards decisions.
That infrastructure was put into place because kids were killing or injuring themselves in secret and in private because they lacked information that would tell them that they were normal, their weird, inexplicable desires for their body were actually not so weird and not so inexplicable, and that they have pathways towards what they want without self harm.
One thing that eunuchs face a hm very difficult challenge in is that even today, it's really hard to get validating trans care as a eunuch.
If I wanted it in the 90's or even 00's I was aware I would have to fake being trans-femme to get blockers and surgical intervention, and even then it would have been really hard convincing anyone to get a prescription.
Does that really sound like a world where ANYONE is "rushed" into a situation like that?
As it is, people fighting as young adults to get fertility-ending procedures fight against a stiff wind of natalism shot deep through the medical establishment. You know how hard it is for an 18 year old woman to get her tubes tied?
It's damn near impossible. Nobody will fucking do it.
I had a coworker whose completely non-functional ovaries were literally fucking killing her and she couldn't find a doctor to take them out for YEARS because of that bullshit. She almost died because of other people's unearned and frankly inappropriate interest in her non-functional gonads.
It's unbelievable the bias in that regard.
Chris will ultimately cause more kids to castrate themselves and regret it.
And never have I once encountered any person, trans or therapist, who recommends hormones and transition without also recommending doing their best to be at peace with who they are without it.
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