Shadowy Man
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That plot shows the index varies all the time. There’s no reason to suspect that the recent spike is manmade.
Sorry. Wrong thread.

That plot shows the index varies all the time. There’s no reason to suspect that the recent spike is manmade.
Market isn't certain what it wants to do today, so it is fishing along 0+/-. The 10 year treasury is above 4.5% It is higher than the peak that was likely part of the reason for Trump to pull back most of the tariffs.
Fed is signaling no rate cuts, which makes sense as the numbers for the economy Trump inherited, are looking good. If it wasn't for the tariffs, the Market would have likely popped a bit with the recent good economics news. Trump is exclusively the reason for the market sucking at the moment.
All the hallmarks of uncertainty, which is antithetical to a “good” market. It might go up, it might go down and it’s a terrible time to try to get people or Companies to invest in America.Market isn't certain what it wants to do today, so it is fishing along 0+/-. The 10 year treasury is above 4.5% It is higher than the peak that was likely part of the reason for Trump to pull back most of the tariffs.
Fed is signaling no rate cuts, which makes sense as the numbers for the economy Trump inherited, are looking good. If it wasn't for the tariffs, the Market would have likely popped a bit with the recent good economics news. Trump is exclusively the reason for the market sucking at the moment.
Tarrifs are just a trace gas, they form only a minuscule fraction of theThat plot shows the index varies all the time. There’s no reason to suspect that the recent spike is manmade.
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The widening deficit, which occurs when spending exceeds the amount of money being raised, comes as the Trump administration has touted a plan to reduce waste and spending in the federal government through Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency, also known as DOGE.
Tax cuts for billionaires, Service cuts for the poor, mainly Medicaid.It also comes as House Republicans narrowly approved their budget framework Thursday, which advances $4.5 trillion in tax cuts and seeks at least $1.5 trillion in cuts to federal programs and services.
That’s what happens when you gut the IRS and basically stop all collection efforts. Now they know they can get away with putting anything on their return and there is no one to challenge it.![]()
US budget deficit grows to $1.3 trillion, the second highest six-month level on record
The U.S. budget deficit has grown to more than $1.3 trillion in the first half of the fiscal year. The Treasury Department says it's the second highest six-month deficit on record.apnews.com
The widening deficit, which occurs when spending exceeds the amount of money being raised, comes as the Trump administration has touted a plan to reduce waste and spending in the federal government through Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency, also known as DOGE.
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Tax cuts for billionaires, Service cuts for the poor, mainly Medicaid.It also comes as House Republicans narrowly approved their budget framework Thursday, which advances $4.5 trillion in tax cuts and seeks at least $1.5 trillion in cuts to federal programs and services.
Yup, if they really want to reduce the deficit they would fund the hell out of the IRS.That’s what happens when you gut the IRS and basically stop all collection efforts. Now they know they can get away with putting anything on their return and there is no one to challenge it.![]()
US budget deficit grows to $1.3 trillion, the second highest six-month level on record
The U.S. budget deficit has grown to more than $1.3 trillion in the first half of the fiscal year. The Treasury Department says it's the second highest six-month deficit on record.apnews.com
The widening deficit, which occurs when spending exceeds the amount of money being raised, comes as the Trump administration has touted a plan to reduce waste and spending in the federal government through Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency, also known as DOGE.
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Tax cuts for billionaires, Service cuts for the poor, mainly Medicaid.It also comes as House Republicans narrowly approved their budget framework Thursday, which advances $4.5 trillion in tax cuts and seeks at least $1.5 trillion in cuts to federal programs and services.
Yep. Friday the argument was that we need to bring manufacturing back to the US so we can create jobs. Saturday, the industry that we were hoping would move back to the US is exempt from the tariffs, so there is no longer any incentive to move. But.....for the past couple of weeks, we have pissed off the world. From relative stability to....who the hell knows. One thing is for sure though, the rest of the world is losing faith in the US. MAGA.So computers, monitors, cell phones are now exempt for the beaucoup tariff on China.
Making one ask, what is the point again?
The point is to get companies to compete at Mar-A-Lago instead of in the marketplace, and pay proper tribute to the Orange King.So computers, monitors, cell phones are now exempt for the beaucoup tariff on China.
Making one ask, what is the point again?
It would be interesting to see Trump's response if China stopped the flow of computers and phones from China to the US. Basically telling Trump, you asked for it, you got it.So computers, monitors, cell phones are now exempt for the beaucoup tariff on China.
Making one ask, what is the point again?
Howard Nutlick is so far up Trump's ass he can smell his hair spray from the inside.The point is to get companies to compete at Mar-A-Lago instead of in the marketplace, and pay proper tribute to the Orange King.So computers, monitors, cell phones are now exempt for the beaucoup tariff on China.
Making one ask, what is the point again?
"An army of thousands of CEOs, each competing against each other to make a deal and pay tribute, that kind of thing is going to come to Mar-a-Lago." -Howard Lutnick
Dick wagging.So computers, monitors, cell phones are now exempt for the beaucoup tariff on China.
Making one ask, what is the point again?
More than you realize.Yep. Friday the argument was that we need to bring manufacturing back to the US so we can create jobs. Saturday, the industry that we were hoping would move back to the US is exempt from the tariffs, so there is no longer any incentive to move. But.....for the past couple of weeks, we have pissed off the world. From relative stability to....who the hell knows. One thing is for sure though, the rest of the world is losing faith in the US. MAGA.So computers, monitors, cell phones are now exempt for the beaucoup tariff on China.
Making one ask, what is the point again?
Hard not to notice the expected and conspicuous absence of EVs and batteries from the exemptions listIt would be interesting to see Trump's response if China stopped the flow of computers and phones from China to the US. Basically telling Trump, you asked for it, you got it.So computers, monitors, cell phones are now exempt for the beaucoup tariff on China.
Making one ask, what is the point again?
I kinda thought that the disasterous Bush II administration was going to result in that, ya know, the big depression?Hopefully it will mean another up years of Democratic Party rule and maybe the end of the Republican Party all together. That would be at least the silver lining.
I meant to say 80 years.I kinda thought that the disasterous Bush II administration was going to result in that, ya know, the big depression?Hopefully it will mean another up years of Democratic Party rule and maybe the end of the Republican Party all together. That would be at least the silver lining.
But no. The Deep State managed to convince the Christians that they should support the Teaparty and Trump. So here we are. The super rich and their Christian lackeys running the USA.
How bad do things have to get to convince Americans that Trump is not really a Christian?
Tom
Its obviously an American thing. Those of us outside the USA worked out years and years ago that Trump was not a Christian.
How bad do things have to get to convince Americans that Trump is not really a Christian?
Tom
It's not an anything. Christians do not even believe Trump is a Christian. They do believe he is more likely to stand up for them than a Harris or a Biden, or God knows what half-baked candidate the Dems might come up with.Its obviously an American thing. Those of us outside the USA worked out years and years ago that Trump was not a Christian.
How bad do things have to get to convince Americans that Trump is not really a Christian?
Tom