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Legal definition of woman is based on biological sex, UK supreme court rules

You write posts like that and you still act surprised that a bunch of us consider you a dishonest ideologue, completely removed from the human situation.

Really? The "human situation"? I'm completely removed from the "human situation", am I Tom?

Go ahead, keep showing your true colors.
 
Do you also believe that all doors should be required to be left open, and any stranger allowed to wander through people's houses, and action should only be taken AFTER a stranger takes something that isn't theirs?
See, you're pretending that the transexuals you're so afraid of must be like you, unable to conceive of non-authoritarian solutions to social problems. No, no one has required that doors be left open, only that a court should have to prove that a theft has occurred before someone goes to prison for theft.
So we're allowed to exclude males from female-only intimate spaces as a preliminary safeguarding approach then?



What you're advocating for is the equivalent of arresting someone of a certain class the second they enter a well-to-do neighborhood, on suspicion of the theft they might commit, or because seeing them makes the rich people who live there feel afraid.
No, what I'm advocating for is that if someone enters my house without permission, I can evict them, and if needed I can press charges for trespassing regardless of whether they steal anything or not.
In short, you are pretending to be attacked. But you aren't. You are attacking other people, using the police as your weapons.
This is dumb. I mean, just a completely asinine argument.

Do you believe that women should have the right to boundaries that consider non-consenting voyeurism as a crime committed against them?
Do you believe that women should have the right to boundaries that consider non-consenting exhibition as a crime committed against us?
This coming from the only admitted voyeur on the forum! You were bragging just last week about how you look at other women's crotches in private spaces to see if they were "adjusting their bulge", as you put it, and speculate in writing, on a public forum, about what you imagine their genitals looked like. Casting odds, no less. But you want me to believe that your victims are somehow more guilty of voyeurism than you? Or is voyeurism not a crime when you do it? Oh, of course not! Why, you weren't looking for sexual gratification, only ammunition for your anti-civil rights campaigning. So innocent! I sure none of those women would feel "uncomfortable" if they knew you were only out to hurt them personally as opposed to pleasing yourself! No, Emily, your victims certainly did not consent to be violated by you, let alone outed, misgendered, disrespected, and used as tools for your ideological agenda. You make other women less safe. They don't.
They weren't women. They were men in skirts.
Per your confession:
Bullshit. I've personally witness TWO "women" adjusting their bulges in the ladies restroom. I've seen a handful of other transgender identified males who were obviously and unambiguously male, and I'd give it 80% odds that they had dicks.

Because over 80% of transgender identified males keep their penises, and have no intention of getting it removed
Go back on your meds Poli.

When a person is in the ladies' room and they are male-sized, male-appearing, and then they reach down and reposition their male fucking anatomy, that's not voyeurism, and you know it.

But if you want to continue with this idiotic bad faith malice that you're plying... Then I'll just note that you're a man who advocates for men to be allowed BY LAW to look at naked women without consent, to expose themselves to women without consent, and to otherwise force women across the board to be subservient to the desires of men.

Go raise your MRA flag and wave it proudly.
 
I'm not sure you've ever met any women in real life, if you think these particular women would have consented, if asked, to have someone ogle them in the bathroom and then write about their genitals on the internet.
 
I'm not sure you've ever met any women in real life, if you think these particular women would have consented, if asked, to have someone ogle them in the bathroom and then write about their genitals on the internet.
Oh my God.
Like I said...
Tom
 
Really? The "human situation"? I'm removed from the "human situation", am I Tom?

Well you don’t seem to have even the slightest concern for females wanting privacy, dignity, safety, and fairness, in spaces free from males, in some circumstances.

It’s almost as if the interests of females are of no importance to you,
 
I'm not sure you've ever met any women in real life, if you think these particular women would have consented, if asked, to have someone ogle them in the bathroom and then write about their genitals on the internet.
Oh my God.
Like I said...
Tom
Do you, Tom? Do you honestly think they consented to what Emily did to them? If you do, just say yes. It's one word. Can you type it?
 
Really? The "human situation"? I'm removed from the "human situation", am I Tom?

Well you don’t seem to have even the slightest concern for females wanting privacy, dignity, safety, and fairness, in spaces free from males, in some circumstances.

It’s almost as if the interests of females are of no importance to you,
You know what women love? Being called "females", and listening to men explain "what females want". :rolleyes:
 
I'm not sure you've ever met any women in real life, if you think these particular women would have consented, if asked, to have someone ogle them in the bathroom and then write about their genitals on the internet.
Oh my God.
Like I said...
Tom
Do you, Tom? Do you honestly think they consented to what Emily did to them? If you do, just say yes. It's one word. Can you type it?
When did consent become important to you,
beyond the assumption that everyone must accept your ideological certainty.
Tom
 
Really? The "human situation"? I'm removed from the "human situation", am I Tom?

Well you don’t seem to have even the slightest concern for females wanting privacy, dignity, safety, and fairness, in spaces free from males, in some circumstances.

It’s almost as if the interests of females are of no importance to you,
You know what women love? Being called "females", and listening to men explain "what females want". :rolleyes:
You mean men like you?

I'd suggest doing what men like me do. Listen to female women and take their concerns and feelings and security as seriously as you do those of male women. Just a thought.
Tom
 
I'm not sure you've ever met any women in real life, if you think these particular women would have consented, if asked, to have someone ogle them in the bathroom and then write about their genitals on the internet.
Oh my God.
Like I said...
Tom
Do you, Tom? Do you honestly think they consented to what Emily did to them? If you do, just say yes. It's one word. Can you type it?
When did consent become important to you,
beyond the assumption that everyone must accept your ideological certainty.
Tom
So no.
 
Most females want some spaces to be free from males. All males. The polling evidence is clear on this.
Ah. So the opinions of all women do not matter, just "most females".
Nobody said that.
But yeah, it's close enough. The majority of women don't want males entitled to use the public restroom with them.

But you don't think that large majority of women have opinions that matter because they don't match your ideology.
Tom
 
Ah. So the opinions of all women do not matter, just "most females".
Well yes, obviously.

You think that some females can consent on the behalf of other females, to allowing males into female only spaces?

That’s not how it works.
 
Ah. So the opinions of all women do not matter, just "most females".
Well yes, obviously.

You think that some females can consent on the behalf of other females, to allowing males into female only spaces?

That’s not how it works.
Lemme expand on that a bit.
What people like @Politesse are arguing is that male women don't feel safe or comfortable in the men's room, because men are kinda dangerous for everyone, especially women.

Their solution to the problem is to give men the entitlement to use the women's restroom. They want to protect women by giving men the right to use the women's restroom!
Tom
 
As for the main issue at hand, unless you agree to stop pretending I've altogether denied the existence of biological sex, when I haven't - when as far as I know no one does - there's little point in further conversation.
I'll agree to that when you agree to stop beating your wife. I never said or implied in any way that you denied the existence of biological sex. You made that up! What I said was that you made an argument from authority, and I caught your authority red-handed saying something monumentally stupid: something that logically implies biological sex didn't exist until H. sapiens came on the evolutionary scene and took up labeling stuff. That in no way involves saying you denied the existence of biological sex; it doesn't even involve saying ASRM denied the existence of biological sex. It only means ASRM didn't think through the implications of what they'd written before they published it, and that you didn't think through the implications of what they'd written before you quoted them and called it a "fact sheet".

...unless you agree to stop pretending I've altogether denied the existence of biological sex...
You're not discussing in good faith...
for you to lie
Those are damaging trumped-up false accusations. You made them with malice and reckless disregard for the truth. If we used real names here they'd be actionable. You say those things about me, not because you have any grounds for believing them, but because you've classified me as outgroup, so you do not think I'm sufficiently entitled to truthfulness for it to be worth it to you to spend the roughly fifteen seconds it would take you to fact-check the make-believe claims you make about me.

, and I'm getting very tired of typing the same responses over and over just for you to lie and deflect and ignore them for the umpteenth time.
Then feel free to put me on "ignore". But if you keep making vicious personal attacks on me I'll keep calling you out on them.
 
I'm not sure you've ever met any women in real life, if you think these particular women would have consented, if asked, to have someone ogle them in the bathroom and then write about their genitals on the internet.
I've met lots of women in real life. None of them have or had a penis or testicles at any point in their development.

No matter how many times you repeat your catechism, I'm never going to accept the falsehood that male mammals can become female mammals, nor that male humans with subjective feelings inside their brains are somehow indistinguishable from women.
 
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