Climate Change(d)?

[steve_bank]

And it was almost 100 F in New York City

The 1911 Eastern North America heat wave was an 11-day severe heat wave that killed at least 380 people, though estimates have put the death toll as high as 2,000 people. The heat wave began on July 4, 1911 and didn't cease until July 15, 1911. In Nashua, New Hampshire, the temperature peaked at 106 °F (41 °C). In New York City 158 people and 600 horses died.

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I will spell it out for you slowly

T h e -i s s u e- i s- t h e - l o n g- t e r m -t r e n d-i n-g l o b a l -a v e r a g e -t e m p e r a t u r e

Doooo Yooou unnn-derrr-stand whaaaat I aaaam saaaay-ing?

Are you that ignorant or are you just being a gadfly?

Imperceptible rise in temperature.

Relax daddio, be a cool cat.

I know it is meaningless s to you. Something very very basic in science. The relationship between energystored in a mass and temperature.

q = energy in joules
m = mass in kilograms
c = heat capacity of the mass.
T is temperature

q = m*c*dT

You can find it on the net.

Look up the mass of the oceans or just the Gulf Of Mexico. For a 1 degree rise in temperature what is the increase in stored energy in the water? Look u c for seawater.

It is an enormous change in stored energy.

What drives storms is the difference in temperature. Warm air meets cold air on land, cold air meets warm sea over water. A temperature difference is like voltage across a battery.

The equation q = mcΔT calculates the heat (q) transferred to or from a substance, where 'm' is the mass, 'c' is the specific heat capacity, and 'ΔT' is the change in temperature. It's a fundamental formula in calorimetry and thermodynamics.

I know high school math probably is not your strong suit, but give it a try, you might learn something.

 

[TSwizzle]

I know it is meaningless s to you. Something very very basic in science.

climate is variable. I don’t know why you obsess over it and nor do I care. I think it’s dumb.

 

[Elixir]

climate is variable.

Uh Huh.

I don’t know why you obsess over it

Now you know. Or you would, if you were intellectually equipped to understand the graph.
It's not an obsession with the that climate is variable. It's the unprecedented effect of human upon it that is worrisome.
Not for you - your lifespan wouldn't even show up as a hairline on that graph.

 

[lostone]

I know it is meaningless s to you. Something very very basic in science.

climate is variable. I don’t know why you obsess over it and nor do I care. I think it’s dumb.

We 'obsess' over it because it is not entirely variable, has an enormous impact upon the entire world we live in, and some of its variations can be controlled by us, to some extent, if we take appropriate actions to do so.

 

[TSwizzle]

We 'obsess' over it because it is not entirely variable, has an enormous impact upon the entire world we live in, and some of its variations can be controlled by us, to some extent, if we take appropriate actions to do so.

Rapture like cult.

 

[bilby]

Rapture like cult.

Cult like mantra.

 

[steve_bank]

I know it is meaningless s to you. Something very very basic in science.

climate is variable. I don’t know why you obsess over it and nor do I care. I think it’s dumb.

As I said it is meaningless to you. We all know where you are at.

Being immersed in science for most of my adult life I'd think it would be scary to not understand the science that affects your life.

If I asked you what is the energy that makes a car go you might say gasoline and know comes form oil.

If I asked what is the energy the drives a hurricane or thunderstorm or tornado and what determines how severe these storms are what would you say?

If I asked you why sea levels are rising causing coastal problems today on our coasts and islands that that are going under water what would say say is the cause of sea level rise?

 

[GenesisNemesis]

Devastating impacts of climate change on California.

Note that this report is already out of date; things will get much worse.

(deleted) I don't think [Tswizzle] cares about California.

 

[GenesisNemesis]

And it was almost 100 F in New York City and Boston who cares as long as it's nice in Santa Monica. It was in the upper 90s in Indy earlier this week, only about 10 or so degrees about normal, but that means nothing since Santa Monica is not so hot.

Surely you must be familiar with the concept of summer and summer heatwaves?

A few hot days in the summer is not unusual. In fact it is quite common.

It is a balmy 74 degrees today and a slight breeze.

Surely you must be familiar with the concept that weather is not climate?

But no, maybe not. You strike me as being extremely … well, I won’t say it.

He is indeed that.

 

[GenesisNemesis]

Nuclear can provide us the energy we need, greatly reducing CO2 emissions. But Libs stopped that in the 70s/80s, and NIMBYs won't allow it today.

This obsession with CO2 needs to stop.


It is a catastrophic 63 degrees in Santa Monica this morning but climate change will occur and it will be a balmy 76 degrees later today.

#StandStrongSantaMonicaPier

Someone doesn't understand the concept of "averages". But that's about average for a conservative.

 

[TSwizzle]

If I asked you why sea levels are rising causing coastal problems today on our coasts and islands that that are going under water what would say say is the cause of sea level rise?

Sea levels have risen and fallen over millennia. It’s just what happens and if you think you can change that, well you are just as delusional as any religious nut bar.

 

[steve_bank]

TSwizzle is like a baby in a baby high chair at a dinner table with adults.

One of the adults tries to feed it from a jar of baby food saying come on TSwizzle this is good for you, but baby TSwizzle just defiantly locks his lips closed refusing to eat.

It is some years later and Tswizzle hasn't done his high school science homework and tells the teacher 'My dog ate it.' The teacher says 'TSwizzle you keep making the same lame excuse, you will never learn anything. You don't even have a dog.'

When he gets home his mother says 'You are late for dinner again TSwizzle, what is your excuse this time?'.

TSwizzle looks art his watch and says 'But gee mom, my watch says I am right in tune'.

His mother says 'You have used that lame excuse one time too many'.

 

[steve_bank]

If I asked you why sea levels are rising causing coastal problems today on our coasts and islands that that are going under water what would say say is the cause of sea level rise?

Sea levels have risen and fallen over millennia. It’s just what happens and if you think you can change that, well you are just as delusional as any religious nut bar.

But why are oceans rising right now so quickly? What is canning it right now?

Me: La had toxic levels of air pollution before auto exhaust emissions controls.
TSwizzle: There has always been toxic pollutants in the air. There is no link between air quality and auto exhausts.

 

[TSwizzle]

TSwizzle is like a baby in a baby high chair at a dinner table with adults.

Steve is a member of a cult.

 

[TSwizzle]

But why are oceans rising right now so quickly?

co2 of course

 

[steve_bank]

Open up TSwizzle, I've got some yummy mashed science for you, it is easy for you to digest.

Come on now, just open your mouth.

 

[Swammerdami]

Surely you must be familiar with the concept of summer and summer heatwaves?

A few hot days in the summer is not unusual. In fact it is quite common.

Yes. For example in the summer just two years ago Phoenix, Arizona had fifty-seven days above 111°F. Even hotter summers were quite common as recently as the Miocene.

It is a balmy 74 degrees today and a slight breeze.

It was a pleasant 28° this afternoon right here where I live in Chiang Mai: I suppose that would be considered a scorcher in Santa Monica. I went out for a while and it was a bit warmer when I got back but I just pushed the usual button to fix that.

Is US the only major country that doesn't use Celsius by default? I read that in the UK weather reporters switch to Fahrenheit only to add excitement when the temperature rises to 100°F or higher -- is that true?

 

[TSwizzle]

Yes. For example in the summer just two years ago Phoenix, Arizona had fifty-seven days above 111°F.

So what? Phoenix is in the middle of a desert.

Santa Monica is where it’s at yo.

 

[Elixir]

Phoenix is in the middle of a desert.

Everywhere is somewhere.
Your moronic incantations do not alter the fact of anthropogenic climate change.
But don’t worry Swiz; nobody is going to kidnap you and disappear your ass for parroting Trumpsucking stupidity.

 

[WAB]

Yes. For example in the summer just two years ago Phoenix, Arizona had fifty-seven days above 111°F.

So what? Phoenix is in the middle of a desert.

Santa Monica is where it’s at yo.

I live in Lake Havasu, where at this time of year 111 degrees F is a good deal.

On June 29, 1994, Havasu recorded a temperature of 128.