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Legal definition of woman is based on biological sex, UK supreme court rules

Because, when explaining why I was wrong about everything, you said:

And I’m not clear how pointing out trees are sexed is misogyny.

Feel free to explain
Given that you don’t understand botany or biology of any species, and being utterly and completely wrong in what you think you know, it is difficult to assess your belief about trees as anything but meaningless and in fact is utterly irrelevant to this discussion.
Can you be more specific? Exactly what has seanie gotten wrong in any of his (or her, I don't know) posts that reference the biology of sex as it pertains to animals or plants?
Everything. Specifically refusing to understand that within a species of tree, some come in male and female forms ( do not get a female ginko tree!!) and some are self pollinating: they are, for lack of a better term, hermaphrodites.
So what was it about the word “both” that you didn’t understand?

Please explain.
 
I’m English, the word sex can mean multiple things: sexual intercourse between two humans, a variety of sex acts, to differentiate between make and female, to determine sex usually of a farm animal, as an abstract idea often to convey the notion of exciting/new and probably dozens more uses fur he word in the US.
The specific point of apparent contention was the sex of trees.

What on earth is the relevance of what you’ve said here?
 
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ost proof or retract.
I retract.
Thank you.
Upon review, you were actually posting here quite a while before you got onto politics.
Dude, I've been posting here (with a break for a few years) for nearly 25 years. This interaction with you is an example of the way in which you tend to make baseless assertions as if they're fact, especially when doing so paints your interlocutor in a bad light and lets you feel justified in maligning them.

If you actually think hard about it, and go back in time... there have been a LOT of things you and I have agreed on.
Such as the above correction, which I note that you have accepted with little grace...
I accepted it with some grace. I would certainly have been happier had I not needed to challenge your ad hominem in the first place. I would very much prefer to NOT face vitriol and hostility when interacting with you.
There are always some things on which we will disagree, and historically have done so. But this tendency of you to paint me as some sort of hard-right bigot is an entirely new invention unevidenced by history.
I don't think you are a "hard right bigot". I am well aware that you consider yourself a liberal Democrat feminist, and believe that the things you type about transgendered people and cis men among others are factual, unbiased, and reasonable. Kind and compassionate even. You are, more than you would ever fully acknowledge, a classic Democratic voter.
I would argue that me considering myself a classical liberal and a classical feminist (never a democrat, always independent) is fairly defensible, and that an objective third party would agree upon assessment of the views I actually hold.

I do think that the things I type about transgender people and men are factual and reasonable; but I absolutely have a bias - I'm a female human who is impacted by this in a way that you and other males are not affected. I freely admit that I am biased in favor of retaining safety, dignity, privacy, and equal access to society for women.

Although I generally try to avoid being intentionally derogatory, I don't necessarily attempt to "be kind and compassionate" on this topic. I do strive to be rational, but sometimes I'm simply going to cut to the heart of it - and I know full well that at least some people are going to see that as "unkind". Many of those people appear to demand an entirely different level of "kindness" from women than they do from men.
Try to remember that my views have been pretty stable for two dozen years or so, with relatively minor shifts... and perhaps consider whether or not it's your position that has drifted?
Having "relatively" unchanging views for 24 years, even as the world around you has changed, is not the brag you think it is. At least not if you ask me. The world has changed greatly in that time. I disagree that the right-wing talking points you now parrot on certain issues like trans people and immigrants were always your perspective, though. Many of those tropes hadn't even been invented yet, in 2000.
You're bogged down in terminology, Poli. Plus, I believe I'm older than you. My principles and my values are stable and consistent, and have been for some time. New specific topics come up, sure, but the stances that I take on each topic is part and parcel of my principles. For example, I've consistently been a proponent of equal opportunity, and I've been skeptical and distrustful of those who argue for equal outcomes. Specific topics might shift, but if you understand that I will evaluate it from a consistent perspective, my opinions should rarely be a surprise.
Myself, I was sixteen and just starting college, two dozen years ago, and I am proud to have changed quite a few of my views since then. Most of them, really. Life has taught me a great deal, and my schooling even more. If I have "drifted" during that time, I find no reason at all to feel ashamed that I have done so.
The difference between 16 and 27 is fairly significant. If your views didn't evolve in that span, I think it would be quite unusual.
 
An actual law would have been better. Because we would then still have its protection.
I swear I made exactly this argument in a different thread...
You may well have done. Indeed, I would hope that you had. Like a lot of Supreme Court decisions, Roe was never meant to stand alone as the law of the land, only a nevessary stop gap to protect what the Justices felt was the Constitutional right of the citizen, until the time when (they hoped) the legislature could consider the matter and better define the government's position through a clearly stated law. Instead, a rickety and inconsistent chain of Stare Decisis decisions was constructed, as conservative theocrats watched for vulnerabilities, planned, and waited for the right appointments.
Shame on all our congresscritters for never getting off their collective asses and passing an actual law.
 
I’m not at all confused about what gametes are necessary ( but still not sufficient) in order to produce offspring.
I assume you're using some version of "sufficient" that includes damaged gametes, damaged uteruses, injury, illness, etc.? Otherwise, this is an odd thing to say.
I do not believe that reproduction is the only function of sex.
Reproduction is literally the only reason that sexes exist at all. But I will also note that you're conflating different meanings of the word sex here. We are talking about sex as biological classes, a noun. You're talking about sex as intercourse, a verb. Please try not to conflate different meanings mid-discussion... or at least limit your conflations to the same part of speech.
I’m English, the word sex can mean multiple things: sexual intercourse between two humans, a variety of sex acts, to differentiate between make and female, to determine sex usually of a farm animal, as an abstract idea often to convey the notion of exciting/new and probably dozens more uses fur he word in the US.
Are you uncertain about what meaning is being used in this context?
 
Non-responsive to the question I asked. Equality of opportunity to participate in sports is a separate issue than who is willing to watch or pay to attend.

Yet you linked them. Why?
Because self-funding teams are inherently not taking away from the other sex. The only reason they would be cut is to create an equality of result rather than a equality of opportunity.
No, they are cut to avoid inconveniencing football. And I seriously doubt that most of the axed sports were self-funding.
Doesn't matter if they all were, all it takes is one to prove my point. Cutting a team saves the spending on the team. But if they are self funding there is no spending on the team and cutting them provides not one iota of help to women.
 
Non-responsive to the question I asked. Equality of opportunity to participate in sports is a separate issue than who is willing to watch or pay to attend.

Yet you linked them. Why?
Because self-funding teams are inherently not taking away from the other sex. The only reason they would be cut is to create an equality of result rather than a equality of opportunity.
No, they are cut to avoid inconveniencing football. And I seriously doubt that most of the axed sports were self-funding.
Doesn't matter if they all were, all it takes is one to prove my point.
No, it doesn’t because you said it was the only reason.
Loren Pechtel said:
Cutting a team saves the spending on the team. But if they are self funding there is no spending on the team and cutting them provides not one iota of help to women.
Not necessarily if their use of infrastructure inhibited use by others. And that presumes the teams were self-funded.
 
I’m English, the word sex can mean multiple things: sexual intercourse between two humans, a variety of sex acts, to differentiate between make and female, to determine sex usually of a farm animal, as an abstract idea often to convey the notion of exciting/new and probably dozens more uses fur he word in the US.
The specific point of apparent contention was the sex of trees.

What on earth is the relevance of what you’ve said here?
What is the relevance of your obsession with the sex of trees?
 
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I’m English, the word sex can mean multiple things: sexual intercourse between two humans, a variety of sex acts, to differentiate between make and female, to determine sex usually of a farm animal, as an abstract idea often to convey the notion of exciting/new and probably dozens more uses fur he word in the US.
The specific point of apparent contention was the sex of trees.

What on earth is the relevance of what you’ve said here?
I don't understand how you are unable to understand that your perception that trees are all either male or female is incorrect or what the sex of trees has to do with human beings. Some animal species actually do change sex. Male seahorses gestate and give birth to offspring. There are lots of exceptions to your dichotomy.

You brought up trees. I have tried to explain to you that trees are not just male or just female. Some have both male and female reproductive parts. I agree that has nothing to do with humans.
 
You brought up trees. I have tried to explain to you that trees are not just male or just female. Some have both male and female reproductive parts. I agree that has nothing to do with humans.
So what did you understand by my use of the word “both”?
 
You brought up trees. I have tried to explain to you that trees are not just male or just female. Some have both male and female reproductive parts. I agree that has nothing to do with humans.
So what did you understand by my use of the word “both”?
I confess that I don’t recall the original post and do not deem it worth my time and effort to look for it.

I further do not consider it worth my time and effort to engage with you.

Full stop.
 
I provided the original post for you again, which you again replied to.

And do you know how we determine which trees are female, which are male, and which are both?

Large gametes and small gametes.

The binary of sex.
So I say trees can be male, female, or both.

To which you reply, no, tress aren’t only male or female, they can also be both.

And somehow, in your head, that’s you telling me something I don’t already know?

Have you been kicked in the head by a horse?
 
I provided the original post for you again, which you again replied to.

And do you know how we determine which trees are female, which are male, and which are both?

Large gametes and small gametes.

The binary of sex.
So I say trees can be male, female, or both.

To which you reply, no, tress aren’t only male or female, they can also be both.

And somehow, in your head, that’s you telling me something I don’t already know?

Have you been kicked in the head by a horse?
Since trees can male, female or both, the sex is not binary. Clearly you have been kicked in the head multiple times.
 
How do we tell when they’re both?

Because they produce both male and female gametes.

Two sexes.

A binary.
 
How do we know clownfish are sequential hermaphrodites?

What are we observing that leads to that conclusion?
 
How do we know that it’s the male Seahorses that gestate and birth offspring?

What is it that identifies them as male?
 
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